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Post by servernaside on Feb 29, 2024 13:04:19 GMT 1
Apparently it was a shocker at Lincoln, but I'm guessing that going into the two away matches at Reading and Lincoln, most of us would have thought that a 2 point return would be quite good.
We actually got 3 points.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 29, 2024 13:43:14 GMT 1
Beat me to it. We've signed 9 permanent players this season and I'd break them down into the following: Experienced Pro's doing a steady (if not spectacular) job - Winchester, Pierre, Morgan & Benning Players who look out of their depth and likely to leave in the summer - Perry, Mata, Sobowale & Idowu Players with future potential - Sraha We were told the model would be bringing in more youthful & energetic players which will (hopefully) go on to make the club money. I know there are no guarantees but I'd say we have brought 5 players in which were intended to fit that mdoel, however none of them are regularly playing and the majority will be gone this summer. I think what sums it up for me is we've paid a transfer fee for 3 players this season......Mata, Sobowale & Idowu. Look at the contribution they've made. For a supposedly skint club, you'd think Roland may be slightly hacked off with Moore as to how he has wasted the little money available. 'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H?
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 29, 2024 13:48:10 GMT 1
Beat me to it. We've signed 9 permanent players this season and I'd break them down into the following: Experienced Pro's doing a steady (if not spectacular) job - Winchester, Pierre, Morgan & Benning Players who look out of their depth and likely to leave in the summer - Perry, Mata, Sobowale & Idowu Players with future potential - Sraha We were told the model would be bringing in more youthful & energetic players which will (hopefully) go on to make the club money. I know there are no guarantees but I'd say we have brought 5 players in which were intended to fit that mdoel, however none of them are regularly playing and the majority will be gone this summer. I think what sums it up for me is we've paid a transfer fee for 3 players this season......Mata, Sobowale & Idowu. Look at the contribution they've made. For a supposedly skint club, you'd think Roland may be slightly hacked off with Moore as to how he has wasted the little money available. 'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? I think the credit must go to the academy, surely?
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Post by southshropblue on Feb 29, 2024 13:52:27 GMT 1
Obviously RW thinks MM did a good job at Cheltenham, but I think only the most myopic fans would think he has done good job here so far ,,with his appointment of MT and Mr Bignot which must have cost at least a bit of money and buying Mata ,who is nowhere near League 1 standard this season , and just generally poor recruitment Whichever division we are in I would expect mass clearout at the ned of the season and hopefully Hurst fully in charge ,
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 13:56:03 GMT 1
Beat me to it. We've signed 9 permanent players this season and I'd break them down into the following: Experienced Pro's doing a steady (if not spectacular) job - Winchester, Pierre, Morgan & Benning Players who look out of their depth and likely to leave in the summer - Perry, Mata, Sobowale & Idowu Players with future potential - Sraha We were told the model would be bringing in more youthful & energetic players which will (hopefully) go on to make the club money. I know there are no guarantees but I'd say we have brought 5 players in which were intended to fit that mdoel, however none of them are regularly playing and the majority will be gone this summer. I think what sums it up for me is we've paid a transfer fee for 3 players this season......Mata, Sobowale & Idowu. Look at the contribution they've made. For a supposedly skint club, you'd think Roland may be slightly hacked off with Moore as to how he has wasted the little money available. 'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? Shhhhh we only want negatives, we'd have much preferred to be discussing how we didn't extend his contract and he walked for nothing and yet we did somehow manage to tie him up in the nick of time , this after he was seemingly neglected by the previous manager
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Post by rickyspanish on Feb 29, 2024 14:12:47 GMT 1
Whichever division we are in I would expect mass clearout at the ned of the season and hopefully Hurst fully in charge , So if we do get relegated this season is everyone happy to keep Hurst on?
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 29, 2024 14:18:53 GMT 1
'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? No idea, how much? But regardless of how much, do we know how it was down to the new structure/Moore? Moore had only been with the club a few months so can hardly take much credit for the development of the lad. I'm assuming most of the credit can go to David Longwell. And much is made of Moore/Taylor bringing on youth players and this deal wouldn't have happed under Cotterill because he was so reluctant to play the youngsters. By my reckoning, this was Hernes involvement this season Cheltenham - Came on in the 95th minute Leeds - Played 55 mins Stevenage - Came on in the 94th minute We also played Harvey Watts in that Leeds game but since then, where have the opportunities been for the younger players?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 29, 2024 14:23:04 GMT 1
Whichever division we are in I would expect mass clearout at the ned of the season and hopefully Hurst fully in charge , So if we do get relegated this season is everyone happy to keep Hurst on? If he gets relegated it will mean he's done less than Matty Taylor who didn't get anywhere near the relegation zone , mainly because he was dead man walking from before he got here so of course hurst will remain as manager , the impatient vocal fans will simply blame the board instead , that's how their logic works
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Post by gtismygod on Feb 29, 2024 14:30:53 GMT 1
'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? No idea, how much? But regardless of how much, do we know how it was down to the new structure/Moore? Moore had only been with the club a few months so can hardly take much credit for the development of the lad. I'm assuming most of the credit can go to David Longwell. And much is made of Moore/Taylor bringing on youth players and this deal wouldn't have happed under Cotterill because he was so reluctant to play the youngsters. By my reckoning, this was Hernes involvement this season Cheltenham - Came on in the 95th minute Leeds - Played 55 mins Stevenage - Came on in the 94th minute We also played Harvey Watts in that Leeds game but since then, where have the opportunities been for the younger players? It’s great having youngsters coming through, but it was blatantly obvious at Elland Road that neither Hernes or Watts were ready for men’s football. We can’t afford to be giving minutes to youngsters who clearly aren’t ready in the midst of a relegation battle.
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Post by gtismygod on Feb 29, 2024 14:32:19 GMT 1
So if we do get relegated this season is everyone happy to keep Hurst on? If he gets relegated it will mean he's done less than Matty Taylor who didn't get anywhere near the relegation zone , mainly because he was dead man walking from before he got here so of course hurst will remain as manager , the impatient vocal fans will simply blame the board instead , that's how their logic works Come on Pilch. Hurst is ten times the manager/head coach that Taylor was/is.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 29, 2024 14:40:11 GMT 1
So if we do get relegated this season is everyone happy to keep Hurst on? If he gets relegated it will mean he's done less than Matty Taylor who didn't get anywhere near the relegation zone , mainly because he was dead man walking from before he got here so of course hurst will remain as manager , the impatient vocal fans will simply blame the board instead , that's how their logic works Roland wanted Cotterill Moore wanted Taylor Roland wanted Hurst The 'impatient fans' will blame the board because they are the ones who make the decisions.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 29, 2024 14:50:42 GMT 1
The new setup introduced at the start of the season was a mess from the off. If it does go tits up this season then for sure the blame lies with the board. I wouldn't blame Hurst at all and I would find it baffling if anyone was to do so. This isn't on him.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 29, 2024 14:50:59 GMT 1
IF we go down, the manner of the relegation will determine how much blame Hurst gets. But clearly the bulk of the blame will be on those who gave him such a poor league position and poor squad.
To claim Matt Taylor was doomed from day one is laughable too, he was doomed from the moment it became apparent he couldn’t coach a team to score goals or win games.
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Post by vladimir on Feb 29, 2024 15:04:01 GMT 1
'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? Shhhhh we only want negatives, we'd have much preferred to be discussing how we didn't extend his contract and he walked for nothing and yet we did somehow manage to tie him up in the nick of time , this after he was seemingly neglected by the previous manager Hernes was still on a youth contract, pretty hypothetical to say Cotterill wouldn't have given him a pro contract this season had he remained in place. The only example fitting your description above is Mcatee.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 29, 2024 15:40:59 GMT 1
'ow much did he make the club with the Newcastle deal for Travis H? I think the credit must go to the academy, surely? Who ensured we signed him up? Who negotiated the deal with Newcastle?
The new way of working is yet to prove itself, but I foresee the future accounts looking a lot rosier. The DofF has to steer an appropriate path for the club. Look at recent manager's transfer deals, far too many not too great signings with one, too few, and expensive, signings with another.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Feb 29, 2024 15:53:54 GMT 1
How is the new football board performing - I don't think a word has come out of this board. Or has this been liquidated?
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Post by darkshrew on Feb 29, 2024 16:12:19 GMT 1
Perry was deffo one of moores signings( he was at Cheltenham with him)made about 30 appearances over 2 loans periods...scored 2 goals I think,and 10 of those were as a sub.... That's poor in my opinion.... somebody correct me if I'm wrong I was amazed he'd played more than 40 games in League 1 when he joined us - originally thought he'd come straight from Wolves u23s
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 29, 2024 16:19:59 GMT 1
How is the new football board performing - I don't think a word has come out of this board. Or has this been liquidated? The football board became the senior management structure and then two of them left. Liam then joined us so it's pretty much the same as it was 12 months ago + a DoF
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