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Post by floreatsalopia1 on Feb 14, 2024 22:45:32 GMT 1
Seems decent stadium planned with undersoil heating provided as part of 16000 stadium with 4 stands !!
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 14, 2024 22:48:19 GMT 1
Looks absolutely classy to be honest.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Feb 14, 2024 22:55:31 GMT 1
Good luck to them if they can get it. The Kassam is one of the worst awaydays in the league and I wouldn’t miss it one bit.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 14, 2024 23:39:13 GMT 1
I think a lot of clubs will be keeping a close eye on this, this certainly looks the way to go by the looks. So good luck to them.
And if it works out as planned then the cynic in me thinks this might well be a means for one or two clubs to get a move. Perhaps even those who have only recently moved if they think it would be beneficial to do so...*cough cough*.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 14, 2024 23:53:25 GMT 1
I'm sure clubs will move to new grounds far sooner these days than they did back in the older days.
Everything is much more throw away these days, even buildings. And football stadia are no different.
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Post by belfastshrew on Feb 14, 2024 23:56:55 GMT 1
I'm sure clubs will move to new grounds far sooner these days than they did back in the older days. Everything is much more throw away these days, even buildings. And football stadia are no different. The land our ground is on is surely much more valuable now with development going on all around it...
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Post by simianbenzoate on Feb 14, 2024 23:59:07 GMT 1
Hold on, didn't they "just" (20 years?) move from whatever that other hellhole was? At least that had character (structural defects)
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Post by scooter on Feb 15, 2024 1:41:42 GMT 1
Hold on, didn't they "just" (20 years?) move from whatever that other hellhole was? At least that had character (structural defects) Manor Ground to the Kazam. Mr Kazam sold the club but kept hold of the ground, and the lease runs out in 2 or 3 years. They would rather move than stay there. It can surely only be better than where they are now.
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Post by Dale on Feb 15, 2024 6:31:22 GMT 1
Good luck to them if they can get it. The Kassam is one of the worst awaydays in the league and I wouldn’t miss it one bit. And it’s a pity too because Oxford is generally a nice place to visit, Oxford City also play a long way out of town, but at the opposite end of the city to OUFC.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 15, 2024 8:58:04 GMT 1
I guess there's just not that attachment once you've made the first move and so the club and fans wouldn't be against another so soon after. I doubt there would be a great deal of uproar amongst the Town support if the club decided to up sticks and move again, for example. I doubt there are too many Oxford fans who have become attached to the Kassam and I recall Scunny were trying to move to a new stadium too some time past (although I think that's now on hold).
I mean when you look to our move, we got a new stadium and a huge amount in the bank didn't we? And so if you could repeat that, why wouldn't you. I gather Shrewsbury like many other towns is growing and only set to grow further and so the land on which the stadium stands will continue to increase in value so why not cash in again if it brings about the same benefits.
I suppose the only downside is that the grounds get pushed further and further out to the outskirts which looks to be case for Oxford's new stadium.
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 15, 2024 9:42:29 GMT 1
I think a lot of clubs will be keeping a close eye on this, this certainly looks the way to go by the looks. So good luck to them. And if it works out as planned then the cynic in me thinks this might well be a means for one or two clubs to get a move. Perhaps even those who have only recently moved if they think it would be beneficial to do so...*cough cough*. Except it’s 12 miles from the current ground. Like us moving to Telford 😂 On the plus side it’s north of Oxford so easier to get to and there is a pub.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 15, 2024 9:48:28 GMT 1
I think a lot of clubs will be keeping a close eye on this, this certainly looks the way to go by the looks. So good luck to them. And if it works out as planned then the cynic in me thinks this might well be a means for one or two clubs to get a move. Perhaps even those who have only recently moved if they think it would be beneficial to do so...*cough cough*. Except it’s 12 miles from the current ground. Like us moving to Telford 😂 Yeah, I mentioned that in my post above. Not sure if Oxford were one of the clubs Winkelman approached to move to Milton Keynes but if they're not careful they'll end up up there sooner rather than later anyhow.
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Post by Dale on Feb 19, 2024 7:15:29 GMT 1
Except it’s 12 miles from the current ground. Like us moving to Telford 😂 Yeah, I mentioned that in my post above. Not sure if Oxford were one of the clubs Winkelman approached to move to Milton Keynes but if they're not careful they'll end up up there sooner rather than later anyhow. Back in the 1980’s when Robert Maxwell was the owner of Oxford United, he proposed a merger with Reading and to rename them ‘The Thames Valley Royals!’
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 19, 2024 8:29:51 GMT 1
Yeah, I mentioned that in my post above. Not sure if Oxford were one of the clubs Winkelman approached to move to Milton Keynes but if they're not careful they'll end up up there sooner rather than later anyhow. Back in the 1980’s when Robert Maxwell was the owner of Oxford United, he proposed a merger with Reading and to rename them ‘The Thames Valley Royals!’ That may have been what I was thinking of. Just had a quick look and it mentions Charlton, Luton and of course Wimbledon who were approached to move to MK...👍 Would it be Bolton who play the furthest away from the town or city they represent at the minute? Never been but that's miles out from Bolton isn't it? And just out of interest, does anyone recall any other locations around Shrewsbury that were considered for the new stadium?
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Post by davycrockett on Feb 19, 2024 9:39:15 GMT 1
Back in the 1980’s when Robert Maxwell was the owner of Oxford United, he proposed a merger with Reading and to rename them ‘The Thames Valley Royals!’ That may have been what I was thinking of. Just had a quick look and it mentions Charlton, Luton and of course Wimbledon who were approached to move to MK...👍 Would it be Bolton who play the furthest away from the town or city they represent at the minute? Never been but that's miles out from Bolton isn't it? And just out of interest, does anyone recall any other locations around Shrewsbury that were considered for the new stadium? Re other locations seem to remember Preston Boats off the island (A5 / A49)but not sure of details
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 19, 2024 10:38:20 GMT 1
That may have been what I was thinking of. Just had a quick look and it mentions Charlton, Luton and of course Wimbledon who were approached to move to MK...👍 Would it be Bolton who play the furthest away from the town or city they represent at the minute? Never been but that's miles out from Bolton isn't it? And just out of interest, does anyone recall any other locations around Shrewsbury that were considered for the new stadium? Re other locations seem to remember Preston Boats off the island (A5 / A49)but not sure of details Closer to that move to Telford you mentioned then. I do wonder though whether this is something that will come about sooner rather than later. I doubt there are any firm plans of course but I do wonder if its ever crossed the chairman's mind.
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 19, 2024 12:06:50 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans.
Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 19, 2024 13:14:40 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans. Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues. Not everyone wants to use a train or car to get to the ground. Amex Stadium in Brighton is nightmare to get to and from, and I know many have stopped going for that reason even though BHA are at their highest ever league position and playing great football. Fans get stuck for hour or more at the station after a game, and that’s without strikes and cancellations.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 19, 2024 16:50:58 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans. Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues. Bit if a walk to find the nearest boozer for a pre match pint though....
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 19, 2024 16:53:22 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans. Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues. Bit if a walk to find the nearest boozer for a pre match pint though.... You'd like to think a Preston Boats development would include a pub or two, a proper supporters bar, a shop etc. We could learn from all the mistakes we made with the new ground.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 19, 2024 16:56:52 GMT 1
Bit if a walk to find the nearest boozer for a pre match pint though.... You'd like to think a Preston Boats development would include a pub or two, a proper supporters bar, a shop etc. We could learn from all the mistakes we made with the new ground. Depends who is planning it. Hopefully we would be in younger leadership if it ever came up again.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Feb 19, 2024 16:58:27 GMT 1
Back in the 1980’s when Robert Maxwell was the owner of Oxford United, he proposed a merger with Reading and to rename them ‘The Thames Valley Royals!’ That may have been what I was thinking of. Just had a quick look and it mentions Charlton, Luton and of course Wimbledon who were approached to move to MK...👍 Would it be Bolton who play the furthest away from the town or city they represent at the minute? Never been but that's miles out from Bolton isn't it? And just out of interest, does anyone recall any other locations around Shrewsbury that were considered for the new stadium? About 6 miles out from the old ground in Bolton.
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Post by Dan F on Feb 19, 2024 21:17:23 GMT 1
Will they bother to finish this one?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 19, 2024 22:25:15 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans. Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues. a new train station in the middle of nowhere that gets used 23 times a year maybe have an airport too
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 19, 2024 22:43:19 GMT 1
Preston Boats would make perfect sense, providing a train station and huge park & ride car park was part of the plans. Would also stop so much traffic coming into town if you could hop on a train for a couple of ££ return and avoid the queues. a new train station in the middle of nowhere that gets used 23 times a year maybe have an airport too I remember that the idea of an interchange was put forward for Preston Boats and found the below, however it was Nutting so it was another fantasy. Plus I do remember laughing at the time because the Star had a headline of "Out-of-town railway station plan for A5 near Shrewsbury" with a direct quote in the article of "“There’s nothing planned, but if we could have a station......" www.shropshirestar.com/news/transport/2019/04/29/out-of-town-railway-station-plan-for-a5-near-shrewsbury/
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Post by Pilch on Feb 19, 2024 22:50:56 GMT 1
a new train station in the middle of nowhere that gets used 23 times a year maybe have an airport too I remember that the idea of an interchange was put forward for Preston Boats and found the below, however it was Nutting so it was another fantasy. Plus I do remember laughing at the time because the Star had a headline of "Out-of-town railway station plan for A5 near Shrewsbury" with a direct quote in the article of "“There’s nothing planned, but if we could have a station......" www.shropshirestar.com/news/transport/2019/04/29/out-of-town-railway-station-plan-for-a5-near-shrewsbury/the only reason I always scoff at these ideas is having working for the railway they seemingly cost millions , and then even if they are in place they need train companies to actually want to stop there , take a look at how often trains stop at the likes of wem, oakengates , Whitchurch these days of course, cost cutting , build techniques and the like these days might mean it can be done of the cheap but still sounds far fetched to me
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 20, 2024 10:15:08 GMT 1
the only reason I always scoff at these ideas is having working for the railway they seemingly cost millions , and then even if they are in place they need train companies to actually want to stop there , take a look at how often trains stop at the likes of wem, oakengates , Whitchurch these days of course, cost cutting , build techniques and the like these days might mean it can be done of the cheap but still sounds far fetched to me Yes I understand that and similarly laugh when people suggest its easy/cheap to build a halt at the ground and to get trains to stop there. However, there's a big difference between having a station in a small village or at football ground compared to one which is designed as an interchange to be used 24/7 which encourages people not to drive into the town centre But that requires a lot of joined up & strategic thinking plus of course money. If they want to get people off the roads in the town centre then they need to invest in the transport network/infrastructure, but as I'm sure you are aware, that it far easier said than done
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Post by ProudSalopian on Feb 20, 2024 10:18:34 GMT 1
Back in the 1980’s when Robert Maxwell was the owner of Oxford United, he proposed a merger with Reading and to rename them ‘The Thames Valley Royals!’ And just out of interest, does anyone recall any other locations around Shrewsbury that were considered for the new stadium? Not another location but do remember seeing some plans for the regeneration of the Meadow. The Station End would become all seater with exec boxes at the back, modelled on the Torquay stand. The Riverside would remain terracing and be extended over the river, whilst the Wakeman End would become for away fans but with access through Abbey Gardens. Would have been nice
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Post by martinshrew on Feb 20, 2024 10:22:14 GMT 1
the only reason I always scoff at these ideas is having working for the railway they seemingly cost millions , and then even if they are in place they need train companies to actually want to stop there , take a look at how often trains stop at the likes of wem, oakengates , Whitchurch these days of course, cost cutting , build techniques and the like these days might mean it can be done of the cheap but still sounds far fetched to me However, there's a big difference between having a station in a small village or at football ground compared to one which is designed as an interchange to be used 24/7 which encourages people not to drive into the town centre. I thought it was obvious I meant this 👍
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Post by Pilch on Feb 20, 2024 10:28:50 GMT 1
However, there's a big difference between having a station in a small village or at football ground compared to one which is designed as an interchange to be used 24/7 which encourages people not to drive into the town centre. I thought it was obvious I meant this 👍 sorry I thought it was fantasy, it was only missing an alfalfa patch to pet the rabbits
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