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Post by davycrockett on Jan 29, 2024 18:24:23 GMT 1
How exactly did we lose out? Anfield wouldn't have been full priced for an FA Cup replay against a League 1 side. Tv wanted to show the game live on weds , Liverpool refused saying they wanted their winter break , the facet the whole squad had already left for the break before we played them on the Tuesday made a mockery of that claim , and yes the cheap pricing also cost us Total estimated £500k Not so sure we know that. A rumour at the time but never reported as fact.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 29, 2024 18:26:11 GMT 1
If we’re being honest more or less every football fan in the country (with the exception of some Man City fans) would bin off their existing manager if Jurgen Klopp was available to manage them. And every football fan would absolutely love him if he was representing their club.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 29, 2024 18:35:41 GMT 1
Be fair to me I wouldn’t want him and I’m no Man City fan!!
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 19:10:02 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. He's a total self obsessed whinging tosspot. Yep,he has the same opinion of you😲🙄
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 19:22:19 GMT 1
Because they said they were going to play kids in advance, ruined any chance of it being a tv game. L'pool also had to reduce ticket prices because of the kids thing, which halved our earnings that day. Pretty poor if you ask me. I see even Man Utd put out a full stength squad against L2 Newport... Both clubs have to agree the ticket prices, therefore just more anti Liverpool rhetoric,suits your agenda
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 29, 2024 19:25:33 GMT 1
Because they said they were going to play kids in advance, ruined any chance of it being a tv game. L'pool also had to reduce ticket prices because of the kids thing, which halved our earnings that day. Pretty poor if you ask me. I see even Man Utd put out a full stength squad against L2 Newport... Both clubs have to agree the ticket prices, therefore just more anti Liverpool rhetoric,suits your agenda oh yeahhh, cus little shrewsbury town could refuse to play if they don't charge £20 a head 🙄 haha. Come on now...that doesn't happen 🤷♂️
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 29, 2024 19:27:57 GMT 1
Would love to see how folk on here would react if they were told they could take a weeks break abroad from work, only to be expected to cancel and work it at the 11th hour Well it should have been a punishment for letting a 2 goal lead against a club 2 divisions lower. Werent we the only club to score twice against them that season? (Memory may be playing up but seem to remember something like that said).
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 19:41:12 GMT 1
Both clubs have to agree the ticket prices, therefore just more anti Liverpool rhetoric,suits your agenda oh yeahhh, cus little shrewsbury town could refuse to play if they don't charge £20 a head 🙄 haha. Come on now...that doesn't happen 🤷♂️ In the circumstances we have as much right as Liverpool to set the prices of the tickets.They aren't allowed to just do their own thing.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 29, 2024 20:04:52 GMT 1
Of course if we'd had VAR (or more observant officials), Fabinho's late handball would have given Cummings the chance of a hat trick with a 2nd penalty, we'd have won 3-2 and all the subsequent nonsense would have been avoided.
There's a parallel universe where that happened.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jan 29, 2024 20:08:17 GMT 1
Would love to see how folk on here would react if they were told they could take a weeks break abroad from work, only to be expected to cancel and work it at the 11th hour My understanding of the winter break was the Premier League picked a date, the FA said that fell during the FA Cup replay window so they would be obliged to play them if they had any. The Premier League went ahead and chose those dates knowing that was the case.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 29, 2024 20:26:42 GMT 1
I might be ok with it if I knew I’d got a good long break in the summer and I was being paid an absolute fortune.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 29, 2024 21:23:03 GMT 1
I dont make s**t up on here EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool v Shrewsbury Town will NOT be televised as BT Sport fail in bid to show it... and with Jurgen Klopp and his first team staying away Liverpool blew a 2-0 lead against Shrewsbury in the FA Cup fourth round But Jurgen Klopp caused a storm by saying he would rest his stars for the replay The BBC and BT Sport are not planning to show the clash at Anfield on TV Newcastle v Oxford and Spurs' replay against Southampton will air instead Jurgen Klopp won't be the only one not turning up at Liverpool versus Shrewsbury – neither will the TV cameras. Sportsmail understands plans to hold the fixture on Wednesday rather than Tuesday have fallen through. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7943221/EXCLUSIVE-Jurgen-Klopp-NOT-watch-Liverpools-kids-play-Shrewsbury-FA-Cup-replay.htmlWhere in that report does it say the reason for not screening the replay is because Klopp isn't playing first teamers? And it is the Mail anyway ..... here's a clip from a legal document written by our own chairman During the 2019-20 season we enjoyed another very memorable FA Cup run including the second half performance against the then World and European Champions, Liverpool turning a 2-0 deficit to earn a replay. I am sure this match at Montgomery Waters Meadow will now live long in the memory for many of our supporters. Much has been written and said about the ill-fated replay at Anfield, not only were we outdone on the pitch by a VAR decision which to this day we still dispute but off the pitch the treatment of our Club was at best 'disappointing'. As soon as their Manager announced immediately after the initial tie that he would not be in attendance at the replay and the match would be played utilising their U23 team, instead of a big windfall estimated at a minimum of £500k, and would have included a live TV replay which all Clubs in the lower leagues dream of receiving, we were left with no alternative but to reluctantly agree to drastically lower the agreed admission prices due to playing their U23 team. When we reported Liverpool to the FA for breaching the FA Cup rules and 'not fielding their strongest team' we were astonished that the Professional Game Board at the FA did not uphold our complaint, much to our solicitors' shock.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 30, 2024 14:18:10 GMT 1
Where in that report does it say the reason for not screening the replay is because Klopp isn't playing first teamers? And it is the Mail anyway ..... here's a clip from a legal document written by our own chairman During the 2019-20 season we enjoyed another very memorable FA Cup run including the second half performance against the then World and European Champions, Liverpool turning a 2-0 deficit to earn a replay. I am sure this match at Montgomery Waters Meadow will now live long in the memory for many of our supporters. Much has been written and said about the ill-fated replay at Anfield, not only were we outdone on the pitch by a VAR decision which to this day we still dispute but off the pitch the treatment of our Club was at best 'disappointing'. As soon as their Manager announced immediately after the initial tie that he would not be in attendance at the replay and the match would be played utilising their U23 team, instead of a big windfall estimated at a minimum of £500k, and would have included a live TV replay which all Clubs in the lower leagues dream of receiving, we were left with no alternative but to reluctantly agree to drastically lower the agreed admission prices due to playing their U23 team. When we reported Liverpool to the FA for breaching the FA Cup rules and 'not fielding their strongest team' we were astonished that the Professional Game Board at the FA did not uphold our complaint, much to our solicitors' shock. A legal document, yes, but you can be as opinionated as you like in the directors' report section of the accounts. It's not a court submission and it doesn't make it true. I've seen some humdingers in my time. I stand by what I said - there's no way Liverpool would have charged full price for a game against a League 1 team and I've seen no evidence that the reason the replay wasn't televised was because Liverpool weren't going to play their first team. The report you quoted suggested it was a scheduling issue.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 30, 2024 16:03:59 GMT 1
here's a clip from a legal document written by our own chairman During the 2019-20 season we enjoyed another very memorable FA Cup run including the second half performance against the then World and European Champions, Liverpool turning a 2-0 deficit to earn a replay. I am sure this match at Montgomery Waters Meadow will now live long in the memory for many of our supporters. Much has been written and said about the ill-fated replay at Anfield, not only were we outdone on the pitch by a VAR decision which to this day we still dispute but off the pitch the treatment of our Club was at best 'disappointing'. As soon as their Manager announced immediately after the initial tie that he would not be in attendance at the replay and the match would be played utilising their U23 team, instead of a big windfall estimated at a minimum of £500k, and would have included a live TV replay which all Clubs in the lower leagues dream of receiving, we were left with no alternative but to reluctantly agree to drastically lower the agreed admission prices due to playing their U23 team. When we reported Liverpool to the FA for breaching the FA Cup rules and 'not fielding their strongest team' we were astonished that the Professional Game Board at the FA did not uphold our complaint, much to our solicitors' shock. A legal document, yes, but you can be as opinionated as you like in the directors' report section of the accounts. It's not a court submission and it doesn't make it true. I've seen some humdingers in my time. I stand by what I said - there's no way Liverpool would have charged full price for a game against a League 1 team and I've seen no evidence that the reason the replay wasn't televised was because Liverpool weren't going to play their first team. The report you quoted suggested it was a scheduling issue. even after Liverpool made it clear their full squad was not playing, BT sport still wanted to show the game on their Wednesday slot, Liverpool refused to switch using the winter break as the excuse, the farce was they were already sat by the pool laughing at us it amazing how often on here exactly how hard it is trying to stick up for salop and or run that side from the NW down do what Glyn Price did, he totally turned his back on that club he followed when he wasnt following the town on the back of what they did to us
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Post by venceremos on Jan 30, 2024 16:47:54 GMT 1
A legal document, yes, but you can be as opinionated as you like in the directors' report section of the accounts. It's not a court submission and it doesn't make it true. I've seen some humdingers in my time. I stand by what I said - there's no way Liverpool would have charged full price for a game against a League 1 team and I've seen no evidence that the reason the replay wasn't televised was because Liverpool weren't going to play their first team. The report you quoted suggested it was a scheduling issue. even after Liverpool made it clear their full squad was not playing, BT sport still wanted to show the game on their Wednesday slot, Liverpool refused to switch using the winter break as the excuse, the farce was they were already sat by the pool laughing at us it amazing how often on here exactly how hard it is trying to stick up for salop and or run that side from the NW down do what Glyn Price did, he totally turned his back on that club he followed when he wasnt following the town on the back of what they did to us It's not a question of sticking up (or not) for Salop and I'm the last person that wants to back Liverpool. As I said, I disliked the way we were treated in that tie. But that doesn't mean I buy into the argument that Klopp's actions cost us £500k and, in the absence of proof (as opposed to supposition) that they did, we can agree to differ.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 30, 2024 18:20:12 GMT 1
even after Liverpool made it clear their full squad was not playing, BT sport still wanted to show the game on their Wednesday slot, Liverpool refused to switch using the winter break as the excuse, the farce was they were already sat by the pool laughing at us it amazing how often on here exactly how hard it is trying to stick up for salop and or run that side from the NW down do what Glyn Price did, he totally turned his back on that club he followed when he wasnt following the town on the back of what they did to us It's not a question of sticking up (or not) for Salop and I'm the last person that wants to back Liverpool. As I said, I disliked the way we were treated in that tie. But that doesn't mean I buy into the argument that Klopp's actions cost us £500k and, in the absence of proof (as opposed to supposition) that they did, we can agree to differ. Ask scarecrow , he posted that exact question to football money expert Kieran Maguire on his podcast and Kieran confirmed it cost us £500k
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 30, 2024 18:28:18 GMT 1
It's a shame a thread that initially contained a modicum of respect for one of the greatest managers of the PL era, has inevitably gone down the exact same conversational route several have in the past
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Post by Pilch on Jan 30, 2024 18:42:55 GMT 1
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 30, 2024 19:20:12 GMT 1
If I was a Liverpool fan, I would be saying 'well done to our manager Klopp for giving our 1st teamers a deserved break and letting our U23s beat lowly Shrewsbury Town'.
But I'm not.
So it stinks.
Klopp out.
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Post by jamo on Jan 30, 2024 19:35:12 GMT 1
Can I apologise for the ‘seemingly’ disrespectful title of the thread. It was meant as a play on words and no offence was intended.
My thoughts at this difficult time are with those unduly affected by my crass attempts at stimulating debate on a football message board, by way of discussing a hugely topical story about football. My bad.
For clarity, my intention was not to do to death ( again) the rights and wrongs of a fixture some years ago but rather to discuss the announced retirement of, without any doubt whatsoever, one of the most successful, iconic and personable managers of the Premiership age.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 30, 2024 19:40:54 GMT 1
And people call Scousers victims 🙄
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 30, 2024 19:49:47 GMT 1
It’s a shame that those of us who look at the whole person can see that he’s great when it suits him and disrespectful when things don’t go his way.
I can’t imagine Bill Shankley behaving like he did.
Certainly Chelsea, Man U and Everton managers weren’t so petulant when they visited us. He doesn’t come anywhere near their standard.
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Post by jamo on Jan 30, 2024 20:27:14 GMT 1
It’s a shame that those of us who look at the whole person can see that he’s great when it suits him and disrespectful when things don’t go his way. I can’t imagine Bill Shankley behaving like he did. Certainly Chelsea, Man U and Everton managers weren’t so petulant when they visited us. He doesn’t come anywhere near their standard. I cannot make up my mind if you are being serious or just a little mischievous. Are you seriously suggesting that Klopp is any different, in protecting, defending and promoting the interests of his team, above all others than say, Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger et al? Because if you are then I find that amazing
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Post by Pilch on Jan 30, 2024 20:28:45 GMT 1
Can I apologise for the ‘seemingly’ disrespectful title of the thread. It was meant as a play on words and no offence was intended. My thoughts at this time are with those unduly affected by my crass attempts at stimulating debate on a football message board, by way of discussing a hugely topical story about football. My bad. For clarity, my intention was not to do to death ( again) the rights and wrongs of a fixture some years ago but rather to discuss the announced retirement of, without any doubt whatsoever, one of the most successful, iconic and personable managers of the Premiership age. just for clarity if mention of Liverpool crops up on B&A, I will always join in and boo them in any which way I prefer too, you can take it as banter if you like, if I was serious I'd start the thread myself in fairness Jamo you have always been a Klopp fan, here's a post just to back you up I like Klopp. Its for that reason I wished he'd have stayed away from the Premier League. Schade schade. I like Klopp also and am pleased that he is in The Premier League as he will certainly enhance it. I think he may be just the right man for The Dippers and have some success there. if anyone wants to cry about it then I will compare them to old Kloppity Clip himself after the game at the meadow
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 30, 2024 20:47:09 GMT 1
It’s a shame that those of us who look at the whole person can see that he’s great when it suits him and disrespectful when things don’t go his way. I can’t imagine Bill Shankley behaving like he did. Certainly Chelsea, Man U and Everton managers weren’t so petulant when they visited us. He doesn’t come anywhere near their standard. I cannot make up my mind if you are being serious or just a little mischievous. Are you seriously suggesting that Klopp is any different, in protecting, defending and promoting the interests of his team, above all others than say, Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger et al? Because if you are then I find that amazing Then prepare to be amazed. It’s one thing to defend your team it’s quite another to be disrespectful to a lower league club and its fans. i mean every word - I judge people by their actions and his behaviour to us gives me no reason to respect him whatsoever.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 30, 2024 20:52:08 GMT 1
I just hope Cotterill gets the job and changes their kit makers to Tacchini ;-)
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jan 31, 2024 16:34:45 GMT 1
I always look forward to the David Squires cartoon strip in the Guardian each Wednesday, his take, “After eight mostly glorious years, the demands of berating fourth officials while dressed like a character from Fargo have finally caught up with him”.
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