bhmon
Midland League Division Two
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Post by bhmon on Jan 26, 2024 18:32:47 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap?
Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 26, 2024 19:03:32 GMT 1
He certainly was very ungracious and rude. Didn’t even bother to attend the replay.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 26, 2024 19:04:42 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. They certainly showed their lack of class and complete disregard for the needs and wants of small clubs in their handling of the replay. On several fronts.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 26, 2024 19:05:51 GMT 1
Don't they already have one ? Pretty sure they do They do, but he's leaving next week! He only joined in the summer. All change at Anfield. didn't he predecessor arrive for 2018/19 season, the only time they won the league since the Middle Ages ;-)
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 26, 2024 19:06:03 GMT 1
Absolutely. After the way he behaved then I don’t get all this appreciation of him.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 26, 2024 19:10:32 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. times that by 5, he cost us half a million, I can only think of one manager that cost us more than that , Telford fans must love him and SC for the damage they did to our club
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 26, 2024 21:47:01 GMT 1
Absolutely. After the way he behaved then I don’t get all this appreciation of him. Ah yes, but only clubs at our level feel like that. The rest of those in different league probably wouldnt understand us either. Thats the problem, there are two levels. Those that have and those that dont.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 26, 2024 21:52:05 GMT 1
Totally agree with that. It’s just all that’s wrong with football now.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 29, 2024 14:02:29 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. How exactly did we lose out? Anfield wouldn't have been full priced for an FA Cup replay against a League 1 side.
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Post by Dancin on Jan 29, 2024 14:06:29 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. How exactly did we lose out? Anfield wouldn't have been full priced for an FA Cup replay against a League 1 side. Didn't he announce straight after the 2-2 draw that he would be playing the kids in the replay apart from some that were coming back from injury. TV companies decided not to broadcast it resulting in greatly reduced ticket prices to fill the ground.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 29, 2024 14:12:20 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. How exactly did we lose out? Anfield wouldn't have been full priced for an FA Cup replay against a League 1 side. Tv wanted to show the game live on weds , Liverpool refused saying they wanted their winter break , the facet the whole squad had already left for the break before we played them on the Tuesday made a mockery of that claim , and yes the cheap pricing also cost us Total estimated £500k
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 29, 2024 14:19:06 GMT 1
'We got a letter in April from the Premier League that we should respect the winter break for the players,' Klopp said.
'It's not allowed to organise international friendlies or competitive games. And we respect that.
'I told the boys weeks ago they will have a winter break. You cannot promise everybody time off and then at the end take that away, I cannot work like this. So that is our solution.
'We will not be there, it will be the kids that play that game. I know that's not very popular but that's the way I see it.'
Personally with such outrageous comments I think they should’ve locked him up and thrown away the key.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 29, 2024 14:29:13 GMT 1
I didn't like what happened but Klopp had every right to put his players first - and his plans for the rest of the season. That's what every successful manager does. He judged, rightly as it turned out, that his kids could still win the game.
I see nobody's come back to suggest that Anfield would have charged full price if Liverpool had fielded a stronger side.
As for the TV argument - is there any evidence that the replay would have been shown live on TV or is that an assumption?
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 14:31:45 GMT 1
How exactly did we lose out? Anfield wouldn't have been full priced for an FA Cup replay against a League 1 side. Tv wanted to show the game live on weds , Liverpool refused saying they wanted their winter break , the facet the whole squad had already left for the break before we played them on the Tuesday made a mockery of that claim , and yes the cheap pricing also cost us Total estimated £500k No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 14:36:53 GMT 1
[quote author=" Feedo Gnasher" Personally with such outrageous comments I think they should’ve locked him up and thrown away the key.[/quote] Allowing for a dodgy VAR against Whalley and Ro-Shaun Williams losing his bearings, Klopp was sadly right😪
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Post by venceremos on Jan 29, 2024 14:39:58 GMT 1
Tv wanted to show the game live on weds , Liverpool refused saying they wanted their winter break , the facet the whole squad had already left for the break before we played them on the Tuesday made a mockery of that claim , and yes the cheap pricing also cost us Total estimated £500k No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact I've no evidence for it but the impression I've gleaned over the years is that it's unusual for both the original game and the replay to be shown, especially in the earlier rounds and where the expected winner has home advantage for the replay.
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 29, 2024 14:45:29 GMT 1
Because they said they were going to play kids in advance, ruined any chance of it being a tv game.
L'pool also had to reduce ticket prices because of the kids thing, which halved our earnings that day. Pretty poor if you ask me. I see even Man Utd put out a full stength squad against L2 Newport...
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Jan 29, 2024 15:25:55 GMT 1
No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact I've no evidence for it but the impression I've gleaned over the years is that it's unusual for both the original game and the replay to be shown, especially in the earlier rounds and where the expected winner has home advantage for the replay. This is correct, and makes sense. Was really interested in watching Newport County vs Man United yesterday, would have had next to zero interest in if it had been the other way around, or in watching the replay if Newport had hung on for the draw. If we'd somehow drawn 2-2 at Anfield the replay would have been a lock for telly even if it had been against the kids, but big team at home to lower league team is rarely a draw for TV in the early rounds. Would say in fairness that Belfastshrew below is correct that Klopp making the announcement so swiftly the chances of it being on TV from slim to nil, and without checking something makes me think it might have been a fairly underwhelming night of replays so we might have snuck onto the list. Him not bothering to show up for the game as well was probably a bit unnecessary and showed a bit of a lack of respect. On the flip side Klopp's decision gave us an absolutely golden opportunity to get through and win more competition money, and the split of a sold-out Stamford Bridge 5th round game that presumably would have definitely been on TV by that extended logic. It's not Klopp's fault we s**t ourselves on the night and decided not to cross the halfway line against some teenagers.
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abcdef
Midland League Division Two
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Post by abcdef on Jan 29, 2024 15:27:53 GMT 1
Didn't he cost us quite a bit of money by throwing his toys out the pram after the 1st FA Cup game. Could be wrong but don't think the replay was televised - and instead of splitting half a full priced Anfield gate, we would only have ended up getting about half the money as tickets were really cheap? Got to have been a least a couple of 100k we missed out on. He's a total self obsessed whinging tosspot.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 29, 2024 15:35:03 GMT 1
When you look at the Liverpool team that night a few of them are going on to have good careers, some of them less so.
Kelleher - Liverpool’s second choice
Williams - a Forest substitute Hoever - Stoke regular Van Den Berg - Mainz regular Lewis - played for Newport last night
Cain - at Swindon Chirivella - Nantes captain Clarkson - at Aberdeen
Elliott - Liverpool squad player Millar - Preston regular Jones - Liverpool regular
Still no excuse though, they were more or less all teenagers.
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johnno
Midland League Division One
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Post by johnno on Jan 29, 2024 15:35:03 GMT 1
Blanket coverage on Sky Sports News at the expense of any other news even on the rotating strips. A disgrace
What did you honestly expect? they did it with Fergie, Wenger and any other high profile manager says he's leaving or gets sacked etc wait until Pep goes, wont hear the last of that one
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 15:40:00 GMT 1
I've no evidence for it but the impression I've gleaned over the years is that it's unusual for both the original game and the replay to be shown, especially in the earlier rounds and where the expected winner has home advantage for the replay. This is correct, and makes sense. Was really interested in watching Newport County vs Man United yesterday, would have had next to zero interest in if it had been the other way around, or in watching the replay if Newport had hung on for the draw. If we'd somehow drawn 2-2 at Anfield the replay would have been a lock for telly even if it had been against the kids, but big team at home to lower league team is rarely a draw for TV in the early rounds. Would say in fairness that Belfastshrew below is correct that Klopp making the announcement so swiftly the chances of it being on TV from slim to nil, and without checking something makes me think it might have been a fairly underwhelming night of replays so we might have snuck onto the list. Him not bothering to show up for the game as well was probably a bit unnecessary and showed a bit of a lack of respect. On the flip side Klopp's decision gave us an absolutely golden opportunity to get through and win more competition money, and the split of a sold-out Stamford Bridge 5th round game that presumably would have definitely been on TV by that extended logic. It's not Klopp's fault we s**t ourselves on the night and decided not to cross the halfway line against some teenagers. Think you have it in one very unusual for a replay, where the PL team is at home,gets shown live on TV. So nothing more than heresay and made up rumour at the time to suit people's agenda on B&A On the night we blew it, no attempt to come out and play. Same against Man United years earlier under Mellon.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 29, 2024 15:56:02 GMT 1
Presumably he was on his winter break too as he didn’t bother to turn up either even to see his young players.
There was also the fact that our fans had to pick their tickets up from the Everton shop because Liverpool couldn’t be bothered to help and altogether they are a loathsome bunch.
His comments after the 2-2 draw were, as he admitted later, extremely ungracious to say the least.
On a personal level I’m sick of seeing photos of him all over the place at the moment.
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jan 29, 2024 16:18:45 GMT 1
Presumably he was on his winter break too as he didn’t bother to turn up either even to see his young players. There was also the fact that our fans had to pick their tickets up from the Everton shop because Liverpool couldn’t be bothered to help and altogether they are a loathsome bunch. His comments after the 2-2 draw were, as he admitted later, extremely ungracious to say the least. On a personal level I’m sick of seeing photos of him all over the place at the moment. We live outside Chester so we have the north west news to contend with, we even had some Liverpool supporters on the TV in tears when they heard he was leaving, others thought that he was one of the city's greatest ambassadors. OTT to be honest.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 29, 2024 16:31:24 GMT 1
Absolutely. All the hype is ridiculous.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 29, 2024 16:35:53 GMT 1
Tv wanted to show the game live on weds , Liverpool refused saying they wanted their winter break , the facet the whole squad had already left for the break before we played them on the Tuesday made a mockery of that claim , and yes the cheap pricing also cost us Total estimated £500k No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact I dont make s**t up on here EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool v Shrewsbury Town will NOT be televised as BT Sport fail in bid to show it... and with Jurgen Klopp and his first team staying away Liverpool blew a 2-0 lead against Shrewsbury in the FA Cup fourth round But Jurgen Klopp caused a storm by saying he would rest his stars for the replay The BBC and BT Sport are not planning to show the clash at Anfield on TV Newcastle v Oxford and Spurs' replay against Southampton will air instead Jurgen Klopp won't be the only one not turning up at Liverpool versus Shrewsbury – neither will the TV cameras. Sportsmail understands plans to hold the fixture on Wednesday rather than Tuesday have fallen through. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7943221/EXCLUSIVE-Jurgen-Klopp-NOT-watch-Liverpools-kids-play-Shrewsbury-FA-Cup-replay.html
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Post by venceremos on Jan 29, 2024 16:59:40 GMT 1
No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact I dont make s**t up on here EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool v Shrewsbury Town will NOT be televised as BT Sport fail in bid to show it... and with Jurgen Klopp and his first team staying away Liverpool blew a 2-0 lead against Shrewsbury in the FA Cup fourth round But Jurgen Klopp caused a storm by saying he would rest his stars for the replay The BBC and BT Sport are not planning to show the clash at Anfield on TV Newcastle v Oxford and Spurs' replay against Southampton will air instead Jurgen Klopp won't be the only one not turning up at Liverpool versus Shrewsbury – neither will the TV cameras. Sportsmail understands plans to hold the fixture on Wednesday rather than Tuesday have fallen through. www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7943221/EXCLUSIVE-Jurgen-Klopp-NOT-watch-Liverpools-kids-play-Shrewsbury-FA-Cup-replay.htmlWhere in that report does it say the reason for not screening the replay is because Klopp isn't playing first teamers? And it is the Mail anyway .....
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Jan 29, 2024 17:06:04 GMT 1
No wish to rake over old ground but is there any documented proof that a TV company were prepared to show the match or is it just heresay put about by the anti-Liverpool brigade on here?. Rather conveniently suited the agenda but it would be good if someone could actually prove that this was actual fact I dont make s**t up on here EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool v Shrewsbury Town will NOT be televised as BT Sport fail in bid to show it... and with Jurgen Klopp and his first team staying away Liverpool blew a 2-0 lead against Shrewsbury in the FA Cup fourth round But Jurgen Klopp caused a storm by saying he would rest his stars for the replay The BBC and BT Sport are not planning to show the clash at Anfield on TV Newcastle v Oxford and Spurs' replay against Southampton will air instead Jurgen Klopp won't be the only one not turning up at Liverpool versus Shrewsbury – neither will the TV cameras. Sportsmail understands plans to hold the fixture on Wednesday rather than Tuesday have fallen through. www.dailymail.co.uk/spor.t/football/article-7943221/EXCLUSIVE-Jurgen-Klopp-NOT-watch-Liverpools-kids-play-Shrewsbury-FA-Cup-replay.htmlDid I say that you made up s**t on here? I asked for proof. As stated above you haven't provided proof,just a piece from the Daily Mail confirming that BT Sport aren't covering the match. Did either club ever release a statement confirming that TV wouldn't be covering the match because Liverpool would only be fielding their kids? Anything else is heresay
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jan 29, 2024 17:36:24 GMT 1
He's a great manager and seems a genuinely decent man so I can see why he's loved by Liverpool fans. However, I can't take to him, his arrogance towards the English game and it's traditions is something I can't stand, sadly that is the same for an increasing number of managers in the Premier League who if they had their way, the PL would become a closed shop, cup competitions would be disbanded and youth sides playing in the football league
Going back to THAT game, I've always said I've had no issues with him playing a youth side, it was entirely his prerogative and he certainly isn't the first manager to play a weakened side against lower league opposition in the cup (in fact, we've done it ourselves to some extent). But it was his comments straight after the 2-2 draw and then the subsequent him not attending which were disrespectful.
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 29, 2024 17:54:26 GMT 1
Would love to see how folk on here would react if they were told they could take a weeks break abroad from work, only to be expected to cancel and work it at the 11th hour
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