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Post by gtismygod on Jan 8, 2024 13:34:13 GMT 1
For me, the town went quiet but the square root of nobody had confidence in us getting back into the game. Block 18 & 19 were quality yesterday, the stand was physically moving. Some great songs, a couple of new ones coupled with old classics made for an unbelievable atmosphere. Yep, could feel the concrete physically bouncing. Would’ve been unbelievable if we’d scored. Or even had a period of sustained pressure.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 8, 2024 13:40:21 GMT 1
I thing I noticed was the fantastic gesture block 19 gave wrexham when they scored, dozens immediately ran down towards the wrexham fans to wave and congratulate them
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 8, 2024 13:44:22 GMT 1
I thing I noticed was the fantastic gesture block 19 gave wrexham when they scored, dozens immediately ran down towards the wrexham fans to wave and congratulate them Probably for the best that all the idiots are grouped together
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Post by burnleylad on Jan 8, 2024 16:20:02 GMT 1
Wrexham weren’t that good. Very shaky at the back and a better team than Salop would have scored three or four. I do agree though that once Salop went one down they ran out of ideas. Not to worry though, if these Hollywood knuckle scrapers get promoted which is a distinct possibility we just need to do the double over them next season. Easier said than done but it would be lovely. He who laughs last laughs the loudest!
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 8, 2024 20:02:08 GMT 1
I think that with their current side they will hit the buffers at a level somewhere around the lower reaches of L1. That would be a fine achievement from where they were 3 years back but would the owners be happy with that? I doubt it but the higher you progress, the more you need to throw at it the even make mirror improvements. We showed yesterday that despite our ongoing problems they didn’t threaten our defence until that profited from a lucky deflection.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 8, 2024 20:14:24 GMT 1
This club right now is an absolute embarrassment and Taylor and Moore need to be shown the door tonight. I’ve just watched Taylor for the last 90 minutes point at the defenders and goalkeeper and point at the air telling them to whack it long. This is anti-football, no tactics, no discipline, no coaching. There is no quality in this team that is being utilised at all. If you are a young striker and looking to go out on loan then you should avoid this club like the plague because you will get no help whatsoever and a coaching staff that’ll have you standing upfront trying to battle 6 foot 4 centre backs for the ball all the time and getting blamed for not scoring. But that’s me done, if fans want to clap along and cheer that style of football and applaud a club that continues to stagnate that’s fine but I won’t buy another ticket until we are run professionally again with something on the pitch to enjoy. I’ve watched this club for 16 years and cannot be bothered to turn up. Moore and Taylor need to be shown the door tonight. Hasta la vista, you'll be back. Can't get rid of the masochistic streak required to be a Shrewsbury fan just like that.
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Post by neilsalop on Jan 10, 2024 8:49:32 GMT 1
How I wish we still had a Wayne Clarke type of player If any loose ball in the box dropped his way, it was swiftly despatched into the onion bag. None of this snatching, shinning and slicing that we have to endure now. Probably the best football player I have seen in a town shirt. I missed the Rowley, Dolby, Wood era and although Holt was a pretty good goalscorer he wasn't half the player Clarke was.
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Post by hectord0g137 on Jan 10, 2024 10:22:07 GMT 1
Big statement that. Holt was cracking. But best all round player for me was Ian Atkins.... discuss
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 10, 2024 10:27:19 GMT 1
How I wish we still had a Wayne Clarke type of player If any loose ball in the box dropped his way, it was swiftly despatched into the onion bag. None of this snatching, shinning and slicing that we have to endure now. Probably the best football player I have seen in a town shirt. I missed the Rowley, Dolby, Wood era and although Holt was a pretty good goalscorer he wasn't half the player Clarke was. As for pleasing on the eye, vision and creativity, Peter Broadbent was better than any of them - that’s why he played for England but yes, Clarke was a magician when the ball was in or around the opposition’s penalty box. He speed of thought created all the space he needed. As the saying goes, “ the first five yards in in your head”.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 10, 2024 11:19:23 GMT 1
Always think its a great shame for the modern day town supporters that they didnt witness the great town players who were mostly from the Gay Meadow era. We just havent seen the skills at the New Meadow that players like Clarke, Broadbent, Hornsby and McGregor had. Great personalities have also disappeared. Kasule, Kelly, Rowley, Wood. I could go on and on but would struggle to name many from the last dozen years. I wonder if its the same with most lower league clubs and a sign of how the game is going.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 10, 2024 13:15:18 GMT 1
I think it’s a sign of the way things are going. Rightly or wrongly it’s all about the money these days so players don’t stay anywhere long enough really for fans to get to know them.
I was thinking earlier about how we have all been sad about the loss of Charlton and Beckenbauer recently and whether there are players today who will be held in such high regard?
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Post by Pilch on Jan 10, 2024 13:29:50 GMT 1
How I wish we still had a Wayne Clarke type of player If any loose ball in the box dropped his way, it was swiftly despatched into the onion bag. None of this snatching, shinning and slicing that we have to endure now. if we look deeper at that, we basically signed a proven top flight goalscorer, who was only 30, who dropped down 2 or 3 leagues to join us who would be that player in todays game ? Callum Wilson ? Sky ended those little perks
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Post by neilsalop on Jan 11, 2024 7:38:07 GMT 1
How I wish we still had a Wayne Clarke type of player If any loose ball in the box dropped his way, it was swiftly despatched into the onion bag. None of this snatching, shinning and slicing that we have to endure now. if we look deeper at that, we basically signed a proven top flight goalscorer, who was only 30, who dropped down 2 or 3 leagues to join us who would be that player in todays game ? Callum Wilson ? Sky ended those little perks That's a fair point, because while the wage differential between the leagues was big even back in the 90s today it is colossal. The average salary in the top flight is over £3m a year, Championship £400k, League 1 around £250k and League 2 around £150k. For a player to drop to even the Championship is going mean a massive wage drop, but 2 or 3 levels is untenable for most.
Even in the early 90s the average top flight wage was only around £1,500 a week, today it is north of £60k a week. We managed to pick up the likes of Clarke back then because the drop in pay was nowhere near as catastrophic as it would be today. Also I would imagine that he would have struggled to hold down a place in a tier 1 or 2 team as the game was getting faster and faster. He knew he had more to give and even after leaving us he dropped down again to play for Telford where he would be allowed even more time on the ball.
I don't suppose he would be interested in popping in to consult with our strike force for the rest of the season.
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Post by mattmw on Jan 11, 2024 9:40:24 GMT 1
Another player who falls into the Wayne Clarke category was Gerry Daly the former Man United and Ireland international. Only had about a season with us but you could really see the quality he had gained from playing at the top level, and always seemed calm on the ball as Clarke was
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 11, 2024 10:03:06 GMT 1
Oh how football has changed and not for the better in my opinion.
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Post by southshropblue on Jan 11, 2024 10:04:55 GMT 1
Always think its a great shame for the modern day town supporters that they didnt witness the great town players who were mostly from the Gay Meadow era. We just havent seen the skills at the New Meadow that players like Clarke, Broadbent, Hornsby and McGregor had. Great personalities have also disappeared. Kasule, Kelly, Rowley, Wood. I could go on and on but would struggle to name many from the last dozen years. I wonder if its the same with most lower league clubs and a sign of how the game is going. Largely agree with this though I would say Whalley and in the current team Benno have and Dunkley have great personalities
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 11, 2024 10:47:40 GMT 1
if we look deeper at that, we basically signed a proven top flight goalscorer, who was only 30, who dropped down 2 or 3 leagues to join us who would be that player in todays game ? Callum Wilson ? Sky ended those little perks That's a fair point, because while the wage differential between the leagues was big even back in the 90s today it is colossal. The average salary in the top flight is over £3m a year, Championship £400k, League 1 around £250k and League 2 around £150k. For a player to drop to even the Championship is going mean a massive wage drop, but 2 or 3 levels is untenable for most.
Even in the early 90s the average top flight wage was only around £1,500 a week, today it is north of £60k a week. We managed to pick up the likes of Clarke back then because the drop in pay was nowhere near as catastrophic as it would be today. Also I would imagine that he would have struggled to hold down a place in a tier 1 or 2 team as the game was getting faster and faster. He knew he had more to give and even after leaving us he dropped down again to play for Telford where he would be allowed even more time on the ball.
I don't suppose he would be interested in popping in to consult with our strike force for the rest of the season.
What May also have helped in bringing Wayne Clarke here, as the fact that brother Frank, the eldest of the 5 Clarke brothers was a former Town striker and later a regular on the terraces at the Meadow.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jan 11, 2024 11:47:49 GMT 1
That's a fair point, because while the wage differential between the leagues was big even back in the 90s today it is colossal. The average salary in the top flight is over £3m a year, Championship £400k, League 1 around £250k and League 2 around £150k. For a player to drop to even the Championship is going mean a massive wage drop, but 2 or 3 levels is untenable for most.
Even in the early 90s the average top flight wage was only around £1,500 a week, today it is north of £60k a week. We managed to pick up the likes of Clarke back then because the drop in pay was nowhere near as catastrophic as it would be today. Also I would imagine that he would have struggled to hold down a place in a tier 1 or 2 team as the game was getting faster and faster. He knew he had more to give and even after leaving us he dropped down again to play for Telford where he would be allowed even more time on the ball.
I don't suppose he would be interested in popping in to consult with our strike force for the rest of the season.
What May also have helped in bringing Wayne Clarke here, as the fact that brother Frank, the eldest of the 5 Clarke brothers was a former Town striker and later a regular on the terraces at the Meadow. Frank Clarke was the centre-forward I remember when I first started going regularly to Gay Meadow as a boy - a great all round team player who specialised in diving headers. Though Alf Wood was my favourite centre-forward of all time I must say the classiest striker we ever had was John Mcginlay who was not with us for long but had a high strike rate, scored some great goals and went on to play for Scotland.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 11, 2024 12:40:37 GMT 1
My regret with town nowadays is that we just dont have any players who can get you out of your seat. Shaun Whalley had that quality but he is one of a small minority in recent years. Under manager Ian McNeil we werent a successful team but we really did have quality individuals who would entertain even when loosing. We nearly went bankrupt but loved that era.
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Post by kenwood on Jan 11, 2024 12:45:21 GMT 1
I loved Frank , he was a great player for us . Sadly no longer with us , was working at Wem Sports Centre for a while. I will always remember Town v Arsenal in the F A Cup some years back, we drew thanks to Peter Dolby and lost the replay. At home Ian Ure, the big Scottish Centre Half spent most of the game kicking lumps off Frank . Great memories of the Town and players from the past . I honestly don’t know if I’ll have fond memories of the current lot in the same way .
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Post by wookeywombat on Jan 11, 2024 12:50:23 GMT 1
We signed Grant Holt only a few years ago and I am guessing he wouldn't have come to us earning peanuts. It was not just Sky who changed things but the Football League itself in the 1980's at the behest of the big clubs when gate receipts were kept in their entirety by the home team instead of a share going to the away club.
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Post by harboroughshrew on Jan 11, 2024 14:33:37 GMT 1
We signed Grant Holt only a few years ago and I am guessing he wouldn't have come to us earning peanuts. It was not just Sky who changed things but the Football League itself in the 1980's at the behest of the big clubs when gate receipts were kept in their entirety by the home team instead of a share going to the away club. Holt was clearly a couple of leagues above League 2 level but could hardly get a game for Forest when we signed him. He put himself in the shop window during the season with us (even though he was hampered by an ankle injury towards the end of season) and went on to play the best football of his career with Norwich, even getting a mention as a possible England player at one time.
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Post by ProudSalopian on Jan 11, 2024 14:49:39 GMT 1
Great memories of the Town and players from the past . I honestly don’t know if I’ll have fond memories of the current lot in the same way . I can't imagine there will be too many players form the current team/squad that will be looked back on fondly in years to come. However, that's not a modern day thing, I bet you there's loads of squads from over the year where you don't remember fondly and/or loads of players you have forgotten about because they were average/poor. The players people generally remember are the ones who were special individual players and normally part of a succesful side. Since we've moved to Oteley Road we've had promotions, cup runs and seen players who have played the highest level. They may not have the legendary status of the likes of Rowley, Broadbent, Wood, etc. but they will still will be remembered by many fondly.
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Post by mrcricket on Jan 11, 2024 14:53:41 GMT 1
Holt was great and so to was Wayne Clarke who I was lucky enough to see a few times growing up.
For some reason Stewart Drummond and Ben Davies spring to mind as really good players, although I doubt they will remembered like Holt and Clarke.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 11, 2024 15:02:46 GMT 1
Yep...a few good names there,that stood out....a couple of the classiest players for me were Gerry Daly,and Wayne Clarke..... Daly was a brilliant passer,had time on the ball,and could score goals.... Clarke was a classy centre forward,who would make finishing look easy,and always in the right place at the right time.....those 2 players made me go want to go and watch Shrewsbury every week......but there was many others to,back in the day......now ATM...... there is absolutely no one,I would go out of my way to watch......and that is a big problem with us atm
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Post by tarporleyblue on Jan 11, 2024 15:11:19 GMT 1
Gerry Daly, what a class act he was in our midfield, it was joy to watch him at the meadow.
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 11, 2024 15:53:04 GMT 1
How the hell we got him I'll never know🤷🤷
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Post by belfastshrew on Jan 12, 2024 0:24:59 GMT 1
Will Scarecrow be back when we beat Stevenage 3 zip???
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Post by Exkeeper on Jan 12, 2024 11:47:44 GMT 1
We can’t talk if classy midfields without giving a mention to Tony Kelly. I still remember his fondly in blue and amber ( or was it all white?)
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Post by Pilch on Jan 12, 2024 12:03:48 GMT 1
Will Scarecrow be back when we beat Stevenage 3 zip??? no, last week was the final straw
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