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Post by davycrockett on Mar 29, 2024 12:58:07 GMT 1
I agree with this, sadly. Pilch didn't you even help us all sell fanzines with free toilet seats with each issue? The seats were changed within 6 months of that. The entire fanbase knew about it for several years. It was on the list the grievances with the clipart lion and wanting to charge full price for the Port Vale game that was abandoned because of a fire. Let alone a "choose the kit" competition that was deliberately manipulated in the choices and then lied about in the results. That's why if you talk about toilet seats, clippy or kit C everyone knows what you're talking about. To pretend to not know because in your hundreds of games you've never needed a poo is one of the silliest things I've ever read on here. thanks again Dave for the accusations, having checked the fanzine forum it seems it was 2017 when you gave away a free toilet seat, not only did I stop being involved in the fanzine when I started working at Royal Mail in 2011, I didn't even manage to buy a copy since then, my Saturdays involve me rolling up at 3pm give or take 10 minutes, and my face is a rare thing in smithys theses days, I think maybe 1 pint ive had in there in the last 3 seasons and thats about an average now. by the way, there is no thread about toilet seats on this forum until months after that issue of the fanzine ( the one I totally missed and had zero input in ) hard to believe we've had a kangaroo court on this and I've had to dig for evidence to clear my name, but thats blue and amber for you "State of the Art, or Bog standard" I campaigned hard for the new stadium. Many of us did. Some of the flaws with the stadium have been discussed before, at length. The green gate, the car park, super blues way, the lack of a supporters bar, they have all been done to death. But one issue that suddenly burst out of nowhere recently was fans clamouring for, wait for it, toilet seats! So it is with this in mind we have given everyone buying a copy of this fanzine a free toilet seat cover! For me this issue crept to the surface when I started taking my little girl to games. She is five now, and I had looked forward to her being old enough to come for a while. Up came the big day last season and we went for some food in a local pub before the game, then an epic trek with a little person towards the stadium ensued. Once inside we went and waved at Lenny the Lion, joined in with a couple of songs, and generally she was just blown away by the whole thing, and loved it. That was always my dream, to take my own kids to the game like my Dad had taken me. Then it happened. She needed a wee. Now I had not really foreseen this bit, and as a father obviously her to the gents. We queued for the cubicle, and when it was our turn I opened the door for her. On entering she just grabbed my leg. Now she is normally a confident little lass but she looked up at me with this look of horror, as if to say "All this time you said you would look after me, all this time you said you would protect me, and now this!". I did not know what to do. She was never going to sit on a freezing cold metal bowl. I would not want her to because it was such a mess. I could not work out how a female could use that toilet without it being a remarkably grim experience, especially for a child. In the end, with the help of about half a toilet roll and some decent balance she did manage to have a wee but it just dawned on me that day, just what a cheap and nasty set up it is for us. Roland, do any of your grandchildren have to wee like that? Do they? Ever? What would you say if they did? What would their parents say? I remember those meetings campaigning for the new stadium. I remember us being across the table from one another, working together. But now, with one arm holding myself up against a breeze block wall and the other trying to stop my daughter falling into a metal bowl, we could not have been further apart. This stadium was not built for us plebs. It just was not. If you can't even get the toilet seats right, then what hope do we have of a safe pathway or better catering? During a recent discussion on the club's official Facebook Page it became clear that many, many others felt the same way. It was clear that women hate the toilets at the new stadium. Some men said their partners chose not to attend games and that was a clear factor. Then came men with medical conditions, and fathers taking their children. The only two solutions people came up with where to bring your own fold out toilet seat like you get for kids, or to use the disabled toilets. I guess it won't work if all women, children and men with medical issues use the disabled toilets! Brian has said he is looking for alternatives but the current design cannot have them retrospectively fitted. In a recent video he also seemed pretty dismissive of the issue, although hopefully that was just a blip and he does realise that it matters to people. I cannot think of the single place in Shrewsbury that does not have toilet seats, except maybe the police station and the prison when it was open. It seems inconceivable in this day and age for any public venue to not have them, for any place to not have them. I just don't understand. Here’s a thread all about the triumph blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/98883/toilet-seats-hopefully-end-saga
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Post by Pilch on Mar 29, 2024 12:59:40 GMT 1
I was looking for the first mention of toilet seats, found one in 2008 from ssshrew it seems there were meetings going on, labelled at the time, "hush hush meetings", invite only. heres a thread about one, it mentions an earlier meeting too that there is no mention of but does mention who was there blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/51028/fao-chosenyes SSShrew does indeed drop in the question about toilet seats, im wondering if anyone who went to that meeting bothered to ask the question on her behalf ? typically the thread involves a hint of smugness from those invited, animosity from those not, and snipes galore, and bizarre how some of those invited now cant handle not being invited at least in recent meetings there has been a bit of transparency and fans have actually been represented by those representing them at meetings
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 15:48:24 GMT 1
Oddly enough I've mellowed quite a lot too. I'm sat here with a wry smile thinking how this thread would be on fire if Glyn was still with us, or if Gareth hasn't stopped posting. The problem underlying it all is that "supporting" the club isn't blindly believing things that are patently untrue. Neither is it right that people throw sticks and stones at everything and everyone to do with the club. They're us a middle road. To praise what's good and question what isn't. For twenty years we've been told that the club is on a sound financial footing and that's worth all the change etc. Now it's not, and that's a very real shame because it removes a key barrier to criticism. I hate all the drama but in my experience it's the only way to create momentum for change. The club apologists will always scapegoat the fans who speak up, just like they did with the campaign for a new badge, the campaign for safe standing. Remember the fans had to prove the club had a duty to maintain the super blues way? We were lambasted for that but over 1000 supporters a game walked up a muddy track, in pitch black for evening games. When they finally relented the path was improved by the fans themselves paying for it. It all eats away at any goodwill for when circumstances make things far worse. I deal with it all by caring far less and going to far fewer games and not having any involvement with any fans groups at the moment. Kit C was the straw that broke this camels back because the whole thing was a sham. Shrewsbury is a small town and I bump into burnt out and bitter ex staff & volunteers all the time. It's always the same story. Many of them don't even attend any more, or hardly ever, and that includes people who were very loyal fans and servants of the club. But all of that is worth it because we are solvent, have a cash reserve, and are sustaining league one football... Absolutely agree Dave, nail on the head. How dare you even think to question the safe pair of hands, especially now that he's not a safe pair of hands.
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Mar 29, 2024 23:36:04 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 29, 2024 23:36:04 GMT 1
not sure if anyone is interested in cotterill anymore Proving you're still obsessed?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 0:07:08 GMT 1
not sure if anyone is interested in cotterill anymore Proving you're still obsessed? this is pure banter, Steve cotterills vegan army and all that obsession is rather worryingly what you have with me, nearly every one of your posts are either directly or indirectly aimed towards me, have you not got anything better to do with your life ?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 12:50:03 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-)
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Post by DiglisShrew on Mar 30, 2024 13:52:35 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 30, 2024 13:56:53 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 Wouldn’t bank on it
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 14:00:26 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 he sent me this postcard
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Post by jamo on Mar 30, 2024 14:23:26 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. Therefore, as part of the distraction and division tactics ( which is a club tactic that is tried and tested overtime) then those charged with working on their behalf have to peddle it wherever and whenever necessary. It’s not worth getting worked up about it. It’s the way it is.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 14:44:10 GMT 1
And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. Therefore, as part of the distraction and division tactics ( which is a club tactic that is tried and tested overtime) then those charged with working on their behalf have to peddle it wherever and whenever necessary. It’s not worth getting worked up about it. It’s the way it is. lmao I clearly indicated in my post it was a chinese whisper , amazing that several have taken it seriously and despite your continued David Icke style accusations, this rumour I had from someone who is usually very critical of our chairman but hey , lets go back to the end of that season only one person claimed to know something, oh it was YOU TWOTS you started this thread blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/105597/word-on-streetCotterill going Monday. Change of sponsors next season and budget been cut. so that was May 6th. the day before the final game of the season and then no sign off cotterill, not a word, nothing, until he rolled back into town weeks later and basically said he wasnt prepared to work within the budget and p**sed off again that was June 1st seems its perfectly fine for you to post rumours, but nobody else is allowed without you appearing to character assassinate them, stop being a hypocrite
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 30, 2024 14:52:21 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) Most managers and players fly off soon after the last game. The fact RW or BC hadn’t spoken to him since January didn’t help. You've either guessed about the loyalty points? or were told by the club?
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 14:56:36 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) Most managers and players fly off soon after the last game. The fact RW or BC hadn’t spoken to him since January didn’t help. You've either guessed about the loyalty points? or were told by the club? wrong on both accounts, why would the club even know anyway ? check my post, I actually say someone told me
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 30, 2024 16:02:46 GMT 1
Going back to a point made about who is ultimately responsible, or not. I found it interesting at companies house we have a secretary in Mr Parry, a Director in Mr Montgomery, and a Managing Director in Mr Wycherley? Was this the same before? Or has Mr Wycherley taken a more hands on role in the board again? Because having different job titles doesn't suggest the power dynamic and responsibility is equal. Companies House job titles are part of the form when an individual joins. To change it to something else a form has to be filed, howevr that form (CH01) only aloows changes to Names and Addresses, not job titles. So the job titles are whatever the person put on the ofrm when they first joined,way back when. The only way to change it is to resign as a director then be reapppinted which seems a bit extreme. Being a Director you would know 😉
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 16:17:18 GMT 1
Companies House job titles are part of the form when an individual joins. To change it to something else a form has to be filed, howevr that form (CH01) only aloows changes to Names and Addresses, not job titles. So the job titles are whatever the person put on the ofrm when they first joined,way back when. The only way to change it is to resign as a director then be reapppinted which seems a bit extreme. Being a Director you would know 😉 mate, you were the last person in the Milky Way to work it out, stop being starstruck and join in the debate ;-)
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Post by southshropblue on Mar 30, 2024 16:21:00 GMT 1
and then the manager vanishing off to Dubai for 2 weeks right after the final whistle of the last game of the season , leaving the whole club in lingo until he returned, oh and the holiday paid for by loyalty points from him booking those nice hotels ( ok I improve that story every time I tell it , but its fun ) ;-) And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 I dont think he will!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 16:26:45 GMT 1
And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 I dont think he will!
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 30, 2024 16:31:37 GMT 1
Companies House job titles are part of the form when an individual joins. To change it to something else a form has to be filed, howevr that form (CH01) only aloows changes to Names and Addresses, not job titles. So the job titles are whatever the person put on the ofrm when they first joined,way back when. The only way to change it is to resign as a director then be reapppinted which seems a bit extreme. Being a Director you would know 😉 Certain posters hide behind aliases, we don’t normal reveal who they are unless asked for legal reasons
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 30, 2024 17:06:10 GMT 1
If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. Therefore, as part of the distraction and division tactics ( which is a club tactic that is tried and tested overtime) then those charged with working on their behalf have to peddle it wherever and whenever necessary. It’s not worth getting worked up about it. It’s the way it is. lmao I clearly indicated in my post it was a chinese whisper , amazing that several have taken it seriously and despite your continued David Icke style accusations, this rumour I had from someone who is usually very critical of our chairman but hey , lets go back to the end of that season only one person claimed to know something, oh it was YOU TWOTS you started this thread blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/105597/word-on-streetCotterill going Monday. Change of sponsors next season and budget been cut. so that was May 6th. the day before the final game of the season and then no sign off cotterill, not a word, nothing, until he rolled back into town weeks later and basically said he wasnt prepared to work within the budget and p**sed off again that was June 1st seems its perfectly fine for you to post rumours, but nobody else is allowed without you appearing to character assassinate them, stop being a hypocrite
There's a difference in posting a good rumour from source and regurgitating pro-club agenda on here from club employees. TWOTS is B&A folklore and nothing will change that.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 17:11:04 GMT 1
lmao I clearly indicated in my post it was a chinese whisper , amazing that several have taken it seriously and despite your continued David Icke style accusations, this rumour I had from someone who is usually very critical of our chairman but hey , lets go back to the end of that season only one person claimed to know something, oh it was YOU TWOTS you started this thread blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/105597/word-on-streetso that was May 6th. the day before the final game of the season and then no sign off cotterill, not a word, nothing, until he rolled back into town weeks later and basically said he wasnt prepared to work within the budget and p**sed off again that was June 1st seems its perfectly fine for you to post rumours, but nobody else is allowed without you appearing to character assassinate them, stop being a hypocrite
There's a difference in posting a good rumour from source and regurgitating pro-club agenda on here from club employees. TWOTS is B&A folklore and nothing will change that. And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 Wouldn't bank on it If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. I dont think he will!
( if only there was fairness on this forum , some others would have posted those snipes ) but they dont such is the gang culture
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 30, 2024 17:19:11 GMT 1
There's a difference in posting a good rumour from source and regurgitating pro-club agenda on here from club employees. TWOTS is B&A folklore and nothing will change that. And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 Wouldn't bank on it If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. I dont think he will!
( if only there was fairness on this forum , some others would have posted that ) but they dont such is the gang culture You can't act like a plank 90% of the time, then blame "gang culture". People just know what you're like by now.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 17:22:10 GMT 1
And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 Wouldn't bank on it If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. I dont think he will!
( if only there was fairness on this forum , some others would have posted that ) but they dont such is the gang culture You can't act like a plank 90% of the time, then blame "gang culture". People just know what you're like by now. you post your evidence then or shut up, and maybe drop the abuse and your daft 90%. 110% claims to all the crap you post
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 30, 2024 17:24:24 GMT 1
You can't act like a plank 90% of the time, then blame "gang culture". People just know what you're like by now. you post your evidence then or shut up I'm not the one making wild claims about Cotts in the middle east, amongst various old wild accusations, am I? You've made a sub-board because you can't handle the mere mention of his name. Your reaction to any mention of our most recent ex manager is beyond embarrassing and totally disproportionate.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 17:25:15 GMT 1
you post your evidence then or shut up I'm not the one making wild claims about Cotts in the middle east, amongst various old wild accusations, am I? You've made a sub-board because you can't handle the mere mention of his name. Your reaction to any mention of our most recent ex manager is beyond embarrassing and totally disproportionate. sorry the sub board was nothing to do with me, so maybe edit those false claims too perhaps I'll post them on the Middle East thread instead ;-)
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 30, 2024 17:31:18 GMT 1
I thought school was out for Easter!
In all seriousness though, try and act like adults, please.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 30, 2024 17:39:43 GMT 1
I thought school was out for Easter! us kids get bored in the holidays ;-) funny how one can announce they are telling a joke only for the same 5 or 6 turn up to bite anyway every days a school day
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Post by tarporleyblue on Mar 30, 2024 17:42:33 GMT 1
you post your evidence then or shut up You've made a sub-board because you can't handle the mere mention of his name. Now that's where you are wrong. The sub-board was created by other mods, and I for one supported that decision.
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Post by philrouge on Mar 30, 2024 17:51:53 GMT 1
And one day you’ll provide evidence !! 🤔 Wouldn't bank on it If such evidence existed, it would have been made available some months ago. There is none. I dont think he will!
( if only there was fairness on this forum , some others would have posted that ) but they dont such is the gang culture You can't act like a plank 90% of the time, then blame "gang culture". People just know what you're like by now. Plank is a bit harsh coming from a someone who acts like a plankton 110% of the time
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 30, 2024 18:22:46 GMT 1
You can't act like a plank 90% of the time, then blame "gang culture". People just know what you're like by now. Plank is a bit harsh coming from a someone who acts like a plankton 110% of the time You've been asleep for a few weeks?
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 30, 2024 18:58:20 GMT 1
You've made a sub-board because you can't handle the mere mention of his name. Now that's where you are wrong. The sub-board was created by other mods, and I for one supported that decision. What was the reason for this out of interest? Its killed any chat on that topic, I refuse to use it because there’s no justifiable reason for a single, confined, on topic thread to be treated in that way. If spam was popping up all over the board like the 101 politics threads I’d agree, but this wasn’t the case I still check FGR result at 5pm each day, watch his post match when it’s released, pre match too, but have nowhere fair to discuss with like minded people. Doesn’t paint the board in good light at all sadly Happy to discuss on Pm if you want to clean this thread up
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