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Post by martinshrew on Oct 30, 2023 16:36:39 GMT 1
7 goals in 15 games is embarrassing. The only leeway I can give Roland is if the books were as bad as he says, they've had to majorly cut back on the wage bill this season, resulting in the team that's been assembled and our inevitable relegation scrap this season. At least I hope that's the reason, if this is all part of another major strategy and our wage bill is the same as last season I'd really start to worry. Didn't Moore say the budget was exactly the same as last season in his video interview?
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 30, 2023 16:37:34 GMT 1
Well given October was a stratospheric improvement on September (3 goals in 6 games compared to 0 goals in 6 games), we’re on a roll. November will bring forth an absolute goal feast and I for one cannot wait. and if we win 2-0 saturday we can quickly revert the 'papering over the cracks' argument in our disappointment of winning ;-) I've genuinely not met a town fan who's disappointed when we win.
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Post by bizzylad on Oct 30, 2023 16:39:59 GMT 1
your posts on here are utterly painful and frankly spoiling what used to be a very decent balanced read . the one thing this thread isn't , is balanced in football only 2 things matter, goals scored v goals against this is a thread just about goals scored the goal difference might not be great at the moment, but its better than it was this time 2 seasons ago the most vocal today didn't say a dickie bird back then when it was not only worse on the pitch but there was seemingly a disaster brewing off the pitch too sometimes my opinion is just to try a create a balanced view, trouble is on here, minority opinions get shouted down even if they are sometimes correct Not disagreeing bout last seasons last 10 games with only 4 goals , Cotterill paid the price for that and other alleged off field goings on , weve got a new gaffer and DOF in and frankly the football is as bad as i can remember in a long time , its flat and utterly boring to watch. The enthusiasm from alot of supporters who i speak too is the lowest its been in ages , fans just cant be arsed , the only reason nearly 600 went to Wigan because socially its a decent day. Myself and lots others ( just look at the empty seats from missing season ticket holders at games this season ) have almost had enough of turning up to watch dull unispiring football , i know its not a new thing from this season. The structure and direction of the club needs a good look at before fans are lost forever.
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Post by sheltonsalopian on Oct 30, 2023 16:40:42 GMT 1
7 goals in 15 games is embarrassing. The only leeway I can give Roland is if the books were as bad as he says, they've had to majorly cut back on the wage bill this season, resulting in the team that's been assembled and our inevitable relegation scrap this season. At least I hope that's the reason, if this is all part of another major strategy and our wage bill is the same as last season I'd really start to worry. Didn't Moore say the budget was exactly the same as last season in his video interview? He did, but the only other explanation for how bad we are now compared to last season is incompetence and that's scary to think about!
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Post by Valerioch on Oct 30, 2023 16:42:56 GMT 1
the one thing this thread isn't , is balanced in football only 2 things matter, goals scored v goals against this is a thread just about goals scored the goal difference might not be great at the moment, but its better than it was this time 2 seasons ago the most vocal today didn't say a dickie bird back then when it was not only worse on the pitch but there was seemingly a disaster brewing off the pitch too sometimes my opinion is just to try a create a balanced view, trouble is on here, minority opinions get shouted down even if they are sometimes correct Not disagreeing bout last seasons last 10 games with only 4 goals , Cotterill paid the price for that and other alleged off field goings on , weve got a new gaffer and DOF in and frankly the football is as bad as i can remember in a long time , its flat and utterly boring to watch. The enthusiasm from alot of supporters who i speak too is the lowest its been in ages , fans just cant be arsed , the only reason nearly 600 went to Wigan because socially its a decent day. Myself and lots others ( just look at the empty seats from missing season ticket holders at games this season ) have almost had enough of turning up to watch dull unispiring football , i know its not a new thing from this season. The structure and direction of the club needs a good look at before fans are lost forever. Excellent post Biz - totally agree Alarm bells should be ringing at the club if you've almost had enough...
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 30, 2023 16:47:36 GMT 1
I say we need to start losing 6-4 or 5-2 , just to give our Goldilocks fans chance to about goals conceded instead 😝😝 Nothing is ever quite right for them 😳 I know you say nothing is ever right for us, but what is right? What is it that I should be positive about with the current team/squad/management? No hidden agenda, I'm hust generally interested in what you'd answer to that question.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 30, 2023 16:49:06 GMT 1
and if we win 2-0 saturday we can quickly revert the 'papering over the cracks' argument in our disappointment of winning ;-) I've genuinely not met a town fan who's disappointed when we win. I knew of one last season…
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 30, 2023 16:50:19 GMT 1
your posts on here are utterly painful and frankly spoiling what used to be a very decent balanced read . the one thing this thread isn't , is balanced in football only 2 things matter, goals scored v goals against this is a thread just about goals scored the goal difference might not be great at the moment, but its better than it was this time 2 seasons ago the most vocal today didn't say a dickie bird back then when it was not only worse on the pitch but there was seemingly a disaster brewing off the pitch too sometimes my opinion is just to try a create a balanced view, trouble is on here, minority opinions get shouted down even if they are sometimes correct Goal difference not great at the moment is a very polite way of saying joint third worst in the league. Relegation standard.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 30, 2023 17:19:04 GMT 1
the one thing this thread isn't , is balanced in football only 2 things matter, goals scored v goals against this is a thread just about goals scored the goal difference might not be great at the moment, but its better than it was this time 2 seasons ago the most vocal today didn't say a dickie bird back then when it was not only worse on the pitch but there was seemingly a disaster brewing off the pitch too sometimes my opinion is just to try a create a balanced view, trouble is on here, minority opinions get shouted down even if they are sometimes correct Not disagreeing bout last seasons last 10 games with only 4 goals , Cotterill paid the price for that and other alleged off field goings on , weve got a new gaffer and DOF in and frankly the football is as bad as i can remember in a long time , its flat and utterly boring to watch. The enthusiasm from alot of supporters who i speak too is the lowest its been in ages , fans just cant be arsed , the only reason nearly 600 went to Wigan because socially its a decent day. Myself and lots others ( just look at the empty seats from missing season ticket holders at games this season ) have almost had enough of turning up to watch dull unispiring football , i know its not a new thing from this season. The structure and direction of the club needs a good look at before fans are lost forever. we've not won at wigan for over 30 years, not sure what anyone expected to be different this time , especially after we played for over 90 minutes without our captain and main man, you've been to more away games than I've had hot dinners ( and thats a lot ) how many times has the football been great ? the 1-0 win at Fleetwood gets worse each time someone describes it, and yet what a night this was, earlier in the year blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/105107/milton-keynes-match-thread?page=2if anyone thinks more money & more managers is the answer go look at Chelsea, 1 billion pounds and lose at home to Brentford before Matty Taylor arrived I posted this, Paul was a really good guy and he worked with us a lot on things Would I have him back? I would, but I fear it would split the fan base massively won't the next manager do that anyway ? bit like askey did simply because he wasn't paul hurst followed with the same for the next one and the same boo boys will be sulking because the next manager isn't steve cotterill s**t times ahead i fear ps its a shame we've had back luck with injuries and dont have a bigger budget really, of even one close to what we had last season ;-)
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 30, 2023 17:29:46 GMT 1
Not disagreeing bout last seasons last 10 games with only 4 goals , Cotterill paid the price for that and other alleged off field goings on , weve got a new gaffer and DOF in and frankly the football is as bad as i can remember in a long time , its flat and utterly boring to watch. The enthusiasm from alot of supporters who i speak too is the lowest its been in ages , fans just cant be arsed , the only reason nearly 600 went to Wigan because socially its a decent day. Myself and lots others ( just look at the empty seats from missing season ticket holders at games this season ) have almost had enough of turning up to watch dull unispiring football , i know its not a new thing from this season. The structure and direction of the club needs a good look at before fans are lost forever. we've not won at wigan for over 30 years, This thread is about the first 15 games where we've scored 7 goals in 1,400+ minutes of football. It's not about Wigan, nor have I seen anyone exclusively moan about the Wigan result in isolation.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 30, 2023 17:33:24 GMT 1
we've not won at wigan for over 30 years, This thread is about the first 15 games where we've scored 7 goals in 1,400+ minutes of football. It's not about Wigan, nor have I seen anyone exclusively moan about the Wigan result in isolation. stop being a hypocrite ffs, bizzy brought wigan into the debate, go stalk someone else for a change
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 30, 2023 17:39:30 GMT 1
This thread is about the first 15 games where we've scored 7 goals in 1,400+ minutes of football. It's not about Wigan, nor have I seen anyone exclusively moan about the Wigan result in isolation. stop being a hypocrite ffs, bizzy brought wigan into the debate, go stalk someone else for a change Bizzy said 600 went to Wigan because it's a social, he didn't say 600 expected to win there. You've totally ignored all his other points about the structure, the football, the style of play etc and just hemorrhaged on about fans expecting to win at Wigan when the square root of zero people have stated that. I'm not stalking anyone, I'm merely debating your claims that this is some major overreaction, purely about us losing at Wigan.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 30, 2023 17:45:30 GMT 1
With respect, whatever you’ve heard is likely from somebody with unlimited loyalty to Wycherley. Whatever welshshrew has heard is likely direct from players and the like who’ve kept in touch with each other. Loyalty isn't the word I'd use to describe Jaynes relationship with the chairman. which part of 7 goals in 15 games are you on about here ? like I said, stop being a hypocrite and jumping into every single debate I have with someone
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Post by southshropblue on Oct 31, 2023 10:22:45 GMT 1
That at least would be a bit more entertaining than the current situation Pilch ,even though we would have the same amount of points Hopefully this will turn around soon but at the moment it is pretty dire Yes , I keep forgetting how entertaining the last 2 season have been In comparison you really do
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Post by Pilch on Oct 31, 2023 11:35:33 GMT 1
Yes , I keep forgetting how entertaining the last 2 season have been In comparison you really do You'll need to remind me sorry
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 7, 2023 22:47:12 GMT 1
7 goals in 16 league games
2nd worse goal difference in the league
Hurtling towards relegation
Embarrassing shambles
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 7, 2023 23:18:26 GMT 1
The answer to all these bad stats is.......the players are not quite good enough...especially in midfield......take your pick over the years from.... Atkins, Irvine,Daly, McNally,Evans,Kelly,etc...they could turn a game in a second,with a great through pass,or a 25 yard wonder strike.......now at this moment in time,we just don't have a midfielder who can do that.... I'm sorry to say
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Post by Pilch on Nov 7, 2023 23:57:50 GMT 1
7 goals in 16 league games 2nd worse goal difference in the league Hurtling towards relegation Embarrassing shambles hurtling towards relegation ? we finished the day the same number of point from the drop zone as we started if ever a scaremonger needed a spin doctor to polish up a anti town statement you should apply for the role embarrassed for you
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 8, 2023 0:01:48 GMT 1
7 goals in 16 league games 2nd worse goal difference in the league Hurtling towards relegation Embarrassing shambles hurtling towards relegation ? we finished the day the same number of point from the drop zone as we started if ever a scaremonger needed a spin doctor to polish up a anti town statement you should apply for the role embarrassed for you Opinion on 7 goals in 16 games?
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Post by Pilch on Nov 8, 2023 0:03:43 GMT 1
hurtling towards relegation ? we finished the day the same number of point from the drop zone as we started if ever a scaremonger needed a spin doctor to polish up a anti town statement you should apply for the role embarrassed for you Opinion on 7 goals in 16 games? 18th in the table at the moment, about par for us drop your bone and get back in the kennel
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Post by Valerioch on Nov 8, 2023 0:07:15 GMT 1
Indefensible, humiliating record
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 8, 2023 0:10:18 GMT 1
Opinion on 7 goals in 16 games? 18th in the table at the moment, about par for us drop your bone and get back in the kennel 19th*
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Post by Pilch on Nov 8, 2023 0:17:02 GMT 1
18th in the table at the moment, about par for us drop your bone and get back in the kennel 19th* Ok 19th 1 below par , shocking stuff , not going to sleep now
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 8, 2023 0:22:18 GMT 1
It's the chairman who shouldn't sleep after what he's done to our club.
Allowed a few chancers over the years to shaft the club but his latest **** up and patch up is off the scale.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 8, 2023 0:26:01 GMT 1
It's the chairman who shouldn't sleep after what he's done to our club. Allowed a few chancers over the years to shaft the club but his latest **** up and patch up is off the scale. lets hope and pray that these boring attacks you've repeated for years never come back to haunt you
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Post by Minormorris64 on Nov 8, 2023 10:25:49 GMT 1
I find it really hard to see how anyone can try to defend a record of 7 goals in 1440 minutes (probably more but keep it simple 16 x 90)
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 8, 2023 10:34:26 GMT 1
I find it really hard to see how anyone can try to defend a record of 7 goals in 1440 minutes (probably more but keep it simple 16 x 90) It sounds worse when you say 7 goals in over 24 hours. It's almost unbelievable, like you think surely that can't be possible?
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 8, 2023 10:36:50 GMT 1
It's the chairman who shouldn't sleep after what he's done to our club. Allowed a few chancers over the years to shaft the club but his latest **** up and patch up is off the scale. lets hope and pray that these boring attacks you've repeated for years never come back to haunt you I don't understand how you think me pointing out the chairmans appalling record of senior appointments is a boring attack? Williams who went to Burnley is about the only half decent senior appointment.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Nov 8, 2023 10:43:47 GMT 1
Our goals scored in past league one seasons, since getting promoted back up:
2022/23 - 52 2021/22 - 47 2020/21 - 50 2019/20 - 31 (in 34 games) 2018/19 - 51 2017/18 - 60 2016/17 - 46 2015/16 - 58
We’re never the most entertaining, averaging around or just above a goal a game, but this season has all signs pointing to a horrendous new low.
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 8, 2023 14:42:25 GMT 1
The first 16 games of the Hurst season,we never lost.60 goals scored wasn't great,but I'll bet we never conceded many either.i would go to the new meadow fold my arms,and know that the away team would have a job scoring against that defence......oh how I wish we could turn back time.......hendo where are you??😃😃🤗🤗🥳
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