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Post by Pilch on Oct 14, 2023 17:56:59 GMT 1
There’s something very comical about this. If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Agree. On so many levels. His problem was fitness - arguably I feel this isn’t our strongest point this season but we’ve signed someone who has barely played for 2-3 seasons! I thought part of our new ethos was developing young players yet we’ve signed an ex player who hasn’t exactly torn up trees since he left at a lower level. Who within the club has suggested recommended this signing especially given the club are meant to be going in a new direction? I’m not adverse to signing ex players nor Pierre especially but given the new ownership it’s strange to say the least. I hope he does well - it’s probably his last chance to resurrect his career but unconvinced he should be doing it here and right at this moment in time! what would you rather the club do after losing yet another player for a month or 2 ? we cannot loan players in we cannot transfer players in we can only sign players out of contract or we can do nothing
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 14, 2023 18:02:09 GMT 1
There’s something very comical about this. If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Agree. On so many levels. His problem was fitness - arguably I feel this isn’t our strongest point this season but we’ve signed someone who has barely played for 2-3 seasons! I thought part of our new ethos was developing young players yet we’ve signed an ex player who hasn’t exactly torn up trees since he left at a lower level. Who within the club has suggested recommended this signing especially given the club are meant to be going in a new direction? I’m not adverse to signing ex players nor Pierre especially but given the new ownership it’s strange to say the least. I hope he does well - it’s probably his last chance to resurrect his career but unconvinced he should be doing it here and right at this moment in time! It’s clearly short term, to cover injuries- what’s your problem with that?
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Post by mattmw on Oct 14, 2023 18:07:24 GMT 1
"If" is doing some heavy lifting here, given he's barely played since he left us. Think I'd rather give Sraha a chance and see what he's like, I'm not sure there's much point signing these up and coming punts if we're not going to play them and see what they're like when the situation dictates we need to, especially as Feeney's absence isn't for a ridiculously long time. I guess if you're looking at it on a positive side he's probably cheap and it's low risk as we can let him go if he's not up to it still. A fun and useful player in his time with us, mad that we turned down a bid from a Championship team for him not that long ago. Hope it works out. Yes it does seem a bit odd that we need to make a temporary signing of a player who has hardly played for 2 years when we have a young player like Sraha in the squad. Might be able to judge more with him starting today Think based on todays performance I’d be happy to Sraha stay in the team. Looks a strong lad and good at set pieces too. I’m sure he might have worse games ahead but think he’s the type of player I expected to see more of rather this season. 15-20 games this season to get experience and could be a real asset next season Don’t think Pierre will cost a lot and experience may be good alongside younger players, but hopefully just a temporary fix not the type of signing we are looking to make on a regular basis
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Oct 14, 2023 18:09:12 GMT 1
MT said before the game he knows Aaron as they played together before.
It was most likely MT who set this deal up and sorted the initial trial.
Low risk, probably low wages and provides cover till Jan
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Post by jamo on Oct 14, 2023 18:09:19 GMT 1
Proof, were it needed that under this new management structure we are a forward thinking progressive football club. Glory awaits.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 14, 2023 18:12:23 GMT 1
Proof, were it needed that under this new management structure we are a forward thinking progressive football club. Glory awaits. proof that todays game is a squad game
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Post by secretshrew on Oct 14, 2023 18:17:02 GMT 1
Agree. On so many levels. His problem was fitness - arguably I feel this isn’t our strongest point this season but we’ve signed someone who has barely played for 2-3 seasons! I thought part of our new ethos was developing young players yet we’ve signed an ex player who hasn’t exactly torn up trees since he left at a lower level. Who within the club has suggested recommended this signing especially given the club are meant to be going in a new direction? I’m not adverse to signing ex players nor Pierre especially but given the new ownership it’s strange to say the least. I hope he does well - it’s probably his last chance to resurrect his career but unconvinced he should be doing it here and right at this moment in time! It’s clearly short term, to cover injuries- what’s your problem with that? I love the way people debate with each other on here. Gives me such a warm and fuzzy glow.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 14, 2023 18:20:05 GMT 1
It’s clearly short term, to cover injuries- what’s your problem with that? I love the way people debate with each other on here. Gives me such a warm and fuzzy glow. sorry did he stick up for the town ? I think we should all block him
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Post by ProudSalopian on Oct 14, 2023 18:31:04 GMT 1
If we think there is a shortage of players then it makes sense and of course you are going to be limited in who you can sign now.
But the thing which confuses me is why we think it's needed, we have 4 fit centre halves and for a supposedly cash strapped club, having two centre halves on the bench seems a bit of a luxury
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 14, 2023 18:41:51 GMT 1
We know how good Pierre can be and I guess Taylor believes he can return to that standard.
A valuable asset if he can and very little lost if he can’t.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 14, 2023 18:45:15 GMT 1
If we think there is a shortage of players then it makes sense and of course you are going to be limited in who you can sign now. But the thing which confuses me is why we think it's needed, we have 4 fit centre halves and for a supposedly cash strapped club, having two centre halves on the bench seems a bit of a luxury I would guess he's on next to nothing with a few pay clauses if he actually plays, not exactly in a position to bargain is he, he's probably desperate to get himself in the shop window in hope of a January deal somewhere , his career is as good as on a life support system as it is in recent times, we signed similar out of contract players . Charlie Daniels, possibly helped keep us up, mark Pugh didn't work out, I dont hold out much hope that he's the Pierre of old but who knows, it all adds to the drama
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 14, 2023 19:00:18 GMT 1
It’s clearly short term, to cover injuries- what’s your problem with that? I love the way people debate with each other on here. Gives me such a warm and fuzzy glow. Sorry if I caused offence, but I thought it was pretty obvious he’s here for the short term cover, and that doesn’t negate the plans to have younger players. As Pilch said, we have few options given the transfer window, so most on here seem to think it makes sense. If we’d given him a 3 yr deal in August, I would have agreed with you, but the circumstances are different now.
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Post by secretshrew on Oct 14, 2023 19:19:32 GMT 1
I love the way people debate with each other on here. Gives me such a warm and fuzzy glow. Sorry if I caused offence, but I thought it was pretty obvious he’s here for the short term cover, and that doesn’t negate the plans to have younger players. As Pilch said, we have few options given the transfer window, so most on here seem to think it makes sense. If we’d given him a 3 yr deal in August, I would have agreed with you, but the circumstances are different now. No worries. I get what you’re saying but I find it strange that we’re resigning a player who is likely to be de conditioned, lacking match practice and in my eye a step backwards. There are probably 300-400 free agent players available (guessing!) so there are options. I hope he does well, I really do! I’m not anti-town btw. There’s a difference between asking questions and not being supportive.
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Post by pughywasfree on Oct 14, 2023 20:19:54 GMT 1
Out of interest is he still playing for his national team? It might be a tactical masterclass to get games called off over international breaks.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 14, 2023 20:33:57 GMT 1
Matt Taylor post match - “But it will take him a bit of time to get to the level he needs to be at to be in real contention for a position in the team.”
Sort of defeats the objective of a short term deal no?
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Post by Pilch on Oct 14, 2023 20:41:32 GMT 1
Matt Taylor post match - “But it will take him a bit of time to get to the level he needs to be at to be in real contention for a position in the team.” Sort of defeats the objective of a short term deal no? You make it sound like we should only sign match fit Out of contract players There are none , if dunkley and Flanagan Had both gone off after 60 mins Pierre might have been like a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 14, 2023 20:41:52 GMT 1
We know how good Pierre can be and I guess Taylor believes he can return to that standard. A valuable asset if he can and very little lost if he can’t. Think the young players can learn from just training with the guy too.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 14, 2023 20:46:24 GMT 1
Matt Taylor post match - “But it will take him a bit of time to get to the level he needs to be at to be in real contention for a position in the team.” Sort of defeats the objective of a short term deal no? MT might just be being a bit cagey there, keep the opposition guessing?
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Post by vladimir on Oct 14, 2023 21:18:05 GMT 1
Personally find these sort of signings as low risk desperation.
Let's be honest he was immense for us, but had an absolutely spectacular fall off the performance cliff and nothing he has done since hints he will get anywhere near the previous levels.
If anything it feels like Taylor has lost faith in Anderson.
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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 14, 2023 23:09:11 GMT 1
If he hadn’t been with us for a successful period before, this would be looked upon as a dreadful signing by all. Ever since his fitness nosedived with us, so has his career.
It’ll be unbelievable business if he can sort all of that out, but his last few years have been disastrous and we know why.
I’m not hopeful it’ll have been worth the time but we could do with a miracle career turnaround as after initially defending Anderson, he’s clearly turned out not physical enough for this level.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 15, 2023 7:31:02 GMT 1
I’d rather a half-fit Pierre as cover for injury than no cover at all, which was the situation towards the end of last season.
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Post by Dale on Oct 15, 2023 7:48:27 GMT 1
There’s something very comical about this. If you don’t laugh you’ll cry. Agree. On so many levels. His problem was fitness - arguably I feel this isn’t our strongest point this season but we’ve signed someone who has barely played for 2-3 seasons! I thought part of our new ethos was developing young players yet we’ve signed an ex player who hasn’t exactly torn up trees since he left at a lower level. Who within the club has suggested recommended this signing especially given the club are meant to be going in a new direction? I’m not adverse to signing ex players nor Pierre especially but given the new ownership it’s strange to say the least. I hope he does well - it’s probably his last chance to resurrect his career but unconvinced he should be doing it here and right at this moment in time! Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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Post by chameleon on Oct 19, 2023 19:44:37 GMT 1
Be interesting to see how fit he is. Could also go upfront with his physical presence plus he’s decent in the air say 15 minutes to go.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 19, 2023 20:38:22 GMT 1
Be interesting to see how fit he is. Could also go upfront with his physical presence plus he’s decent in the air say 15 minutes to go. Don't be silly , some fans would consider that enough to bring an empire down
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Post by martinshrew on Oct 19, 2023 20:45:06 GMT 1
Few rods dangling, nice day for it!
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 19, 2023 20:45:53 GMT 1
A nice interview from him, I still think it’s embarrassing that we’ve gone back there, but that doesn’t erase the fond memories of him in his prime. If he contributes positively in any way I’ll be absolutely delighted.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 19, 2023 20:54:53 GMT 1
Few rods dangling, nice day for it! Perfect day ,one I never turn down An opportunity to have a dig at the embarrassing out of position criticism at the fleetwood game 2020 , when our top scorer was Sent up Front in the 89th minute and half a dozen fans needed a sedative as they though Only Like for like substitutions were allowed 😝😝😝
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Post by Worthingshrew on Oct 28, 2023 15:23:19 GMT 1
Looks like he’ll get his chance in next few games - good signing!
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Oct 28, 2023 15:53:10 GMT 1
Looks like he’ll get his chance in next few games - good signing! Possibly. I did think it was a bit odd balance wise when he signed as he is another left footed left sided centre back. With Sraha and Anderson already there and available, be intriguing how they might set up. You'd want your strongest centre back in the middle, which I guess would be Flanagan. But that would leave a left footer at right centre back. We shall see. If Anderson doesn't come in you'd have to think it's the end for him
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Post by Worthingshrew on Nov 29, 2023 21:07:24 GMT 1
If we think there is a shortage of players then it makes sense and of course you are going to be limited in who you can sign now. But the thing which confuses me is why we think it's needed, we have 4 fit centre halves and for a supposedly cash strapped club, having two centre halves on the bench seems a bit of a luxury 4 fit centre halves - that will be the day! Events have shown the signing of Pierre was a shrewd move, especially with a MOM performance last night.
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