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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 9:04:56 GMT 1
Nobody will meet with the fans now, none of the new board members give a single toss about the fans. RWs mates, a few more in his and HBOTSs little exclusive club up the stairs. I never liked Brian but at least we had structure, after a restructuring we have less structure than ever. We are in a transition of sorts and you've given it a few weeks , this could take a few years like it has other clubs , maybe actually just turn up and give the club some support win lose or draw , by all means moan about how dull , boring and awful it is , that's not going to change anytime soon , it's been like that for 90+ % of games I've been to in over 40 years , not really sure what you expect |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2023 9:16:00 GMT 1
Nobody will meet with the fans now, none of the new board members give a single toss about the fans. RWs mates, a few more in his and HBOTSs little exclusive club up the stairs. I never liked Brian but at least we had structure, after a restructuring we have less structure than ever. We are in a transition of sorts and you've given it a few weeks , this could take a few years like it has other clubs , maybe actually just turn up and give the club some support win lose or draw , by all means moan about how dull , boring and awful it is , that's not going to change anytime soon , it's been like that for 90+ % of games I've been to in over 40 years , not really sure what you expect Roland stated the below, the key quote is highlighted: www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2023/06/06/shrewsbury-town-chairman-roland-wycherley-unpopular-decisions-have-to-be-made-to-safeguard-the-future/"Going forward, be assured that management structures and new football strategies are already in place - the rationale for the actions we have taken will become evident in the coming weeks and months."That was 113 days ago, we've heard nothing since. In regard to your point about the football, I'll reiterate again it's nothing to do with on the pitch. I can rock up at Sundorne and watch football if I need a fix on a Sunday. It's about the club being the best it can be, it's about there being a strategy, a clean and open line of engagement with the fans. I want to feel a connection to the club, and I want to really look forward to Saturdays again. Andy Holt got mentioned the other day, he's an excellent example. Accy got relegated, but the fans are more engaged than ever because there's a plan. He regularly meets fans, answers questions online and most importantly sets expectation. He's said they'll continue to pick up free releases and cheap players, but they're developing the club. Coleys puts most supporters bars in the country to shame, they've got 2x new/developed stands, they're built their crowds and are being even more sustainable. Because he communicates with the fans regularly, they're on board and despite a relegation their happy. I'd say we're a touch above Accy as we have a decent sized ground and double their crowds, we just need someone with some fresh ideas to modernise the club and we'll turn our very small yearly losses into worse case sustainability, best case return a profit. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 10:58:27 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2023 11:46:32 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth If that's all you have to say to that entire post it kind of proves the point. |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 12:26:41 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth If that's all you have to say to that entire post it kind of proves the point. The way you moan anyone would think you're a major sponsor , you don't even go , why are you not moaning about just giving the manager a bigger budget anymore ? |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2023 13:43:11 GMT 1
If that's all you have to say to that entire post it kind of proves the point. The way you moan anyone would think you're a major sponsor , you don't even go , why are you not moaning about just giving the manager a bigger budget anymore ? I think the B must be worn out on your keyboard, all you ever say is "bigger budget". |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 16:55:28 GMT 1
The way you moan anyone would think you're a major sponsor , you don't even go , why are you not moaning about just giving the manager a bigger budget anymore ? I think the B must be worn out on your keyboard, all you ever say is "bigger budget". stop itching |
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Post by akpaakpost on Sept 27, 2023 17:28:24 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth I think most fans can accept any truth about the club aslong as it’s presented in the right ways (e.g fan engagement and honesty). This post you’ve put looks like it’s come directly from RW himself |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 17:30:47 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth I think most fans can accept any truth about the club aslong as it’s presented in the right ways (e.g fan engagement and honesty). This post you’ve put looks like it’s come directly from RW himself Maybe it has… 👀 |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2023 18:13:14 GMT 1
Has there been any open dialog this season? Have we still got SLOs? Yeah Roger hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram and done what i did ;-) i understand its a tough thing to do, stand up in front of the fans and own the situation, but if the club had come us both and asked us to take on that role as official spokespeople, we would have done so gladly, it would have meant a few more meetings with the management team, but in effect the same as what we were doing. But for whatever reason that didnt happen and we are now in a situation where id imagine no one wants to stand up openly and take what the fans want to say on the chin You're very much the clubs loss. Without yourself, Roger and the backing of fans we'd have a concrete block and **** all else. The work you've done with Roger in conjunction with hard working fans is not to be underestimated, bit it could be so much more with the right enthusiasm coming from the top. If they want to go down the route of silence, lack of care for the fans and censorship of online forums that's up to them, you're better off out of it! Hopefully one day we'll get our club back and move forward with new ideas and an engaged and growing fanbase. |
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Post by suttonshrew on Sept 27, 2023 18:18:16 GMT 1
Well the doors always open for discussion but I very much doubt it would be explored. Maybe one day in the future, who knows
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 18:28:00 GMT 1
like I said , Andy holt tells it like it is , no way do town fans want the hear the truth I think most fans can accept any truth about the club aslong as it’s presented in the right ways (e.g fan engagement and honesty). This post you’ve put looks like it’s come directly from RW himself I can play that game too, your post looks like its come from Joey Essex |
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Post by akpaakpost on Sept 27, 2023 18:53:58 GMT 1
I think most fans can accept any truth about the club aslong as it’s presented in the right ways (e.g fan engagement and honesty). This post you’ve put looks like it’s come directly from RW himself I can play that game too, your post looks like its come from Joey Essex Thanks Roland |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 19:07:20 GMT 1
I can play that game too, your post looks like its come from Joey Essex Thanks Roland thanks Brian |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 19:37:28 GMT 1
Nobody will meet with the fans now, none of the new board members give a single toss about the fans. RWs mates, a few more in his and HBOTSs little exclusive club up the stairs. I never liked Brian but at least we had structure, after a restructuring we have less structure than ever. We are in a transition of sorts and you've given it a few weeks , this could take a few years like it has other clubs , A transition to what though? And when we say it could take a few years, why's that? The budget is the same as last season, that wouldn't suggest anything radical is on the cards. But lets say this is a big transition and it will take a number of years to come to fruition, do you not think that's the sort of thing that supporters deserve to be told about in a bit more detail? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 27, 2023 20:14:16 GMT 1
Roland did a talk in the boardroom at an open day I took my son to at the old GM, we arrived for the talk a few minutes early. I don't remember the talk, but I do remember being invited in, sat on the leather seats and we discussed the old delapidated GM and the model of the new ground which he took great delight in showing us before the talk started.
When JQ came past he invited him in to meet us, RW was really looking forward to the new season, more so than JQ seemed to be honest (JQ had got married in the close season, somehow I don't think his heart was quite into it in the same way).
When we left we agreed that RW was passionsate about the club and the right person to be chairman. He was great, so it's a shame he comes over as aloof. I've never forgotten the experience and still think STFC is very important to him, I think he'll surprise with how he deals with passing over the club at some point and I still think he wants promotion to the Championship. |
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 27, 2023 21:39:18 GMT 1
Roland did a talk in the boardroom at an open day I took my son to at the old GM, we arrived for the talk a few minutes early. I don't remember the talk, but I do remember being invited in, sat on the leather seats and we discussed the old delapidated GM and the model of the new ground which he took great delight in showing us before the talk started.
When JQ came past he invited him in to meet us, RW was really looking forward to the new season, more so than JQ seemed to be honest (JQ had got married in the close season, somehow I don't think his heart was quite into it in the same way).
When we left we agreed that RW was passionsate about the club and the right person to be chairman. He was great, so it's a shame he comes over as aloof. I've never forgotten the experience and still think STFC is very important to him, I think he'll surprise with how he deals with passing over the club at some point and I still think he wants promotion to the Championship. I honestly don’t know, I truly hope it does as he deserves to see out his tenure with his legacy intact and enjoy it rather than being put in this position. You could argue he's put himself in this position with his pig headedness and stubbornness? |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 27, 2023 22:07:30 GMT 1
I honestly don’t know, I truly hope it does as he deserves to see out his tenure with his legacy intact and enjoy it rather than being put in this position. You could argue he's put himself in this position with his pig headedness and stubbornness? You could, but it wouldn't really help the situation. Point out anyone's perceived flaws and they tend to put up a brick wall.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 27, 2023 23:19:00 GMT 1
We are in a transition of sorts and you've given it a few weeks , this could take a few years like it has other clubs , A transition to what though? And when we say it could take a few years, why's that? The budget is the same as last season, that wouldn't suggest anything radical is on the cards. But lets say this is a big transition and it will take a number of years to come to fruition, do you not think that's the sort of thing that supporters deserve to be told about in a bit more detail? you wasn't happy before, so they are trying something else and you are questioning it before its even kicked in, where did they announce the budget is the same as last season. ? like I said shouldn't you be screaming about a igger udget again |
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Post by DiglisShrew on Sept 27, 2023 23:41:01 GMT 1
A transition to what though? And when we say it could take a few years, why's that? The budget is the same as last season, that wouldn't suggest anything radical is on the cards. But lets say this is a big transition and it will take a number of years to come to fruition, do you not think that's the sort of thing that supporters deserve to be told about in a bit more detail? you wasn't happy before, so they are trying something else and you are questioning it before its even kicked in, where did they announce the budget is the same as last season. ? like I said shouldn't you be screaming about a igger udget again Didn’t MM say budget was the same in his recent interview? The one before the more recent one ? 🤔 |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 28, 2023 1:08:06 GMT 1
you wasn't happy before, so they are trying something else and you are questioning it before its even kicked in, where did they announce the budget is the same as last season. ? like I said shouldn't you be screaming about a igger udget again Didn’t MM say budget was the same in his recent interview? The one before the more recent one ? 🤔 Let's not overlook the obvious everything has gone up substantially in the last 12 months , try going shopping with the same budget you had this time last year , you won't get anywhere near as much for your money |
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 28, 2023 9:09:53 GMT 1
Has there been any open dialog this season? Have we still got SLOs? Yeah Roger hasn't thrown his toys out of the pram and done what i did ;-) i understand its a tough thing to do, stand up in front of the fans and own the situation, but if the club had come us both and asked us to take on that role as official spokespeople, we would have done so gladly, it would have meant a few more meetings with the management team, but in effect the same as what we were doing. But for whatever reason that didnt happen and we are now in a situation where id imagine no one wants to stand up openly and take what the fans want to say on the chin It’s a shame Shrewsbury fans haven’t got any strong fans group that can call a meeting without the club being involved, electing representatives and using them as a mouth piece for supporters. The SP was all we had to unite the fans and worked well (thanks to you and Roger) before as a ‘pressure group’ to achieve so much like the badge and the introduction of fans SLOs rather than in house SLOs and provided regular dialog with the club. Nothing currently to unite fans so many are taking to social media through frustration and lack of information . At the same time the club have given up on dialog with fans despite announcing one of Jamie Edwards jobs as fan engagement and also saying they were following the Premiership fan engagement model but haven’t. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 9:15:53 GMT 1
Didn’t MM say budget was the same in his recent interview? The one before the more recent one ? 🤔 Let's not overlook the obvious everything has gone up substantially in the last 12 months , try going shopping with the same budget you had this time last year , you won't get anywhere near as much for your money You’re right everything has gone up substantially - including our season tickets, match day tickets, replica shirts, pints in Smithys, need I go on? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 9:15:57 GMT 1
A transition to what though? And when we say it could take a few years, why's that? The budget is the same as last season, that wouldn't suggest anything radical is on the cards. But lets say this is a big transition and it will take a number of years to come to fruition, do you not think that's the sort of thing that supporters deserve to be told about in a bit more detail? you wasn't happy before, so they are trying something else and you are questioning it before its even kicked in, where did they announce the budget is the same as last season. ? like I said shouldn't you be screaming about a igger udget again My post had nothing to do with questioning the new process, it was simply asking what are we are looking to transform to and if it's going to take years (as you claim) then why aren't fans being told more about it. As for the budget being the same, it's Moore's own words. Now for a club which were heading for financial oblivion and in danger of ceasing to exist, I was expecting the budget to be slashed, all the big earners to be sold, etc. But it's going to be the same.
Moore said: "The budget is exactly the same as it was last year
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Post by Pilch on Sept 28, 2023 9:41:49 GMT 1
Let's not overlook the obvious everything has gone up substantially in the last 12 months , try going shopping with the same budget you had this time last year , you won't get anywhere near as much for your money You’re right everything has gone up substantially - including our season tickets, match day tickets, replica shirts, pints in Smithys, need I go on? you've just proved my point, and craziest place in the world for inflation is football and more so the price of football players, but apparently our budget stayed the same as last season, because we massively overspent last season and we are now paying the price , actually we are not paying the price, just what we have left |
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Post by Pilch on Sept 28, 2023 9:43:07 GMT 1
you wasn't happy before, so they are trying something else and you are questioning it before its even kicked in, where did they announce the budget is the same as last season. ? like I said shouldn't you be screaming about a igger udget again My post had nothing to do with questioning the new process, it was simply asking what are we are looking to transform to and if it's going to take years (as you claim) then why aren't fans being told more about it. As for the budget being the same, it's Moore's own words. Now for a club which were heading for financial oblivion and in danger of ceasing to exist, I was expecting the budget to be slashed, all the big earners to be sold, etc. But it's going to be the same.
Moore said: "The budget is exactly the same as it was last year
www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2023/09/18/micky-moore-overspending-last-season-created-highest-budget-in-137-year-shrewsbury-history/it has been slashed as I have just proved ;-) |
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Post by staffordshrew on Sept 28, 2023 10:23:29 GMT 1
I think most fans can accept any truth about the club aslong as it’s presented in the right ways (e.g fan engagement and honesty). This post you’ve put looks like it’s come directly from RW himself I can play that game too, your post looks like its come from Joey Essex Whose Joey Essex, what team does he own, rentwood?
A igger udget is always welcome, something like I would imagine lackpool or ristol Rovers spend, whereas our udget is probably more like urton spend. Exciting football and exciting times needed to increase the gate and provide that igger udget. Hopefully the new set uo will see that happen over the next season or two as some of the young prospects signed pay off.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 28, 2023 10:32:41 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Sept 28, 2023 10:36:20 GMT 1
Moore stated in his recent interview:
"The budget is exactly the same as it was last year."
That's that myth put to bed early doors.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 28, 2023 10:39:58 GMT 1
What's not to like... 2015–16 20th 2016–17 18th 2017–18 3rd 2018–19 18th 2019–20 15th - No doubt we'd have ended up 17th or 18th 2020–21 17th 2021–22 18th 2022–23 12th  |
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