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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 7, 2023 19:44:24 GMT 1
Such a frustrating player. He's clearly got bags of potential but does not seem to be developing as well as he threatened to when he burst onto the scene. To many times today he just threw away possession and you could see SC losing it with him.
I don't wish to single him out but I wondered people's thoughts on his progress and what could happen to help him reach his potential. Maybe a loan move?
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 7, 2023 19:46:08 GMT 1
Seen him a few times, and every time I've seen him------ doesn't inspire me with great confidence for the future👍👍
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Apr 7, 2023 19:49:10 GMT 1
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Post by Valerioch on Apr 7, 2023 19:49:10 GMT 1
You can’t really judge him today. The whole team were distinctly second best for the whole game
Saying that - Bloxham isn’t and never will be a League 1 player to me
I hope he proves me wrong
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Apr 7, 2023 19:49:43 GMT 1
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Post by Mortgagehound on Apr 7, 2023 19:49:43 GMT 1
Played the role of headless chicken today.
I really hoped he would progress this season but sadly it’s not happening
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 7, 2023 19:52:12 GMT 1
And never will Imho👍👍
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Post by Pilch on Apr 7, 2023 20:09:49 GMT 1
played out of position, again
shocking treatment of a young player with huge potential
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 7, 2023 21:06:12 GMT 1
If he was that good, he'd be number 1 choice every week---- how old was Carl Griffiths when he started scoring and playing regularly---- and against better opposition in them days.you could see he had great potential and desire, same as Ryan Woods, and Paul evans
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Post by Pilch on Apr 7, 2023 21:12:43 GMT 1
If he was that good, he'd be number 1 choice every week---- how old was Carl Griffiths when he started scoring and playing regularly---- and against better opposition in them days.you could see he had great potential and desire, same as Ryan Woods, and Paul evans if you think back to the 80s , the young kids didn't get a look in even if they were good enough , seeing we have a manager who is stuck in the 80s its hardly surprising tom is treated the way he is if he was on fire you'd be explaining how good the manager was at bringing him on
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 22:07:29 GMT 1
played out of position, again shocking treatment of a young player with huge potential huge potential? Based on?
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 7, 2023 22:26:04 GMT 1
Perhaps it's me, but I'm struggling to see anything in him---- hope the lad proves me wrong, and I will hold my hands up---- but just can't see it atm
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Post by Pilch on Apr 7, 2023 22:27:07 GMT 1
played out of position, again shocking treatment of a young player with huge potential huge potential? Based on? I remember he banged one in at Burton last season Dunny asked cotterill if he was surprised Cotterill bit dunnys head off and said "NO, he does that in training all the time" we've seen very little of him as a forward since then, but quite often if he gets the odd few minutes as a late sub he's often been lively and it gets mentioned on here we've never forget his first game and goal, and he's not even fully grown yet the fact the service for our forwards has been little or none has meant on the brief occasions he gets a game, he's often scapegoated and dragged off early, given that quite often the bench only has forwards on it obviously means the forwards are usually the ones subbed and 7 forwards in the starting squad usually mean 3 sit it out every game, proves the manager has really ****ed up with his squad build I remember the Oxford away game, Tom came on early in the 2nd half in a rare striker outing, and first time he got the ball he smashed it from about 25 yards against the bar after the keeper got a finger on it I can see potential , anyway
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 7, 2023 22:37:08 GMT 1
Wilbrahams there, so should be helping him(I hope so anyway) and the boy should be doing extra training after all the others have gone home---that will pay off in the end
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Post by pughywasfree on Apr 7, 2023 22:37:56 GMT 1
huge potential? Based on? I remember he banged one in at Burton last season Dunny asked cotterill if he was surprised Cotterill bit dunnys head off and said "NO, he does that in training all the time" we've seen very little of him as a forward since then, but quite often if he gets the odd few minutes as a late sub he's often been lively and it gets mentioned on here we've never forget his first game and goal, and he's not even fully grown yet the fact the service for our forwards has been little or none has meant on the brief occasions he gets a game, he's often scapegoated and dragged off early, given that quite often the bench only has forwards on it obviously means the forwards are usually the ones subbed and 7 forwards in the starting squad usually mean 3 sit it out every game, proves the manager has really ****ed up with his squad build I remember the Oxford away game, Tom came on early in the 2nd half in a rare striker outing, and first time he got the ball he smashed it from about 25 yards against the bar after the keeper got a finger on it I can see potential , anyway He certainly has potential. He's quick, strong and is decent on the ball. His main issue is his decision making. I've heard of SC micro managing him in games which cant be healthy for his confidence. I believe he will go on to have a decent career once a manager gives him the chance and the guidance. It would be great to hear how SC really feels about Bloxham but I doubt that will ever happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 23:31:38 GMT 1
His confidence is shot, hardly had a look in since his initial burst onto the scene. Needs to go out on loan for a season and get some regular football, as without a reserve side he’s going backwards
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Post by ProudSalopian on Apr 8, 2023 6:51:03 GMT 1
played out of position, again shocking treatment of a young player with huge potential huge potential? Based on? I'm guessing based on these comments like this. www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/shrewsbury-town-fc/2021/09/18/steve-cotterill-hails-shrewsburys-jewel-in-the-crown-tom-bloxham/Last season when people were hyping him up, I didn't see it, all I saw was a young lad running around with little end product. This season when he has come in I've thought he looked sharp and offered something different, even yesterday I thought he did ok. He's one of the few players who looks comfortable on the ball and is willing to take players on, rather than just aimlessly hoof it forwards. I've said on a few threads I want to see him given some games so I was pleased to see him start, the problem for me is he is out on the wing and more often that not, is doing defensive work, rather than getting forwards. I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave this summer (through his choice), as I'd imagine his lack of game time and then getting played out of position is frustrating for him.
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Apr 8, 2023 6:51:44 GMT 1
People forget he’s only like 19 years old.
I’m fairly sure earlier in the season Cotterill addressed his lack of minutes and without giving too much away, suggested possibly some off field issues going on in his life.
Might be wrong but I’m sure I read/heard this before Xmas
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 8:59:36 GMT 1
huge potential? Based on? I remember he banged one in at Burton last season Dunny asked cotterill if he was surprised Cotterill bit dunnys head off and said "NO, he does that in training all the time" we've seen very little of him as a forward since then, but quite often if he gets the odd few minutes as a late sub he's often been lively and it gets mentioned on here we've never forget his first game and goal, and he's not even fully grown yet the fact the service for our forwards has been little or none has meant on the brief occasions he gets a game, he's often scapegoated and dragged off early, given that quite often the bench only has forwards on it obviously means the forwards are usually the ones subbed and 7 forwards in the starting squad usually mean 3 sit it out every game, proves the manager has really ****ed up with his squad build I remember the Oxford away game, Tom came on early in the 2nd half in a rare striker outing, and first time he got the ball he smashed it from about 25 yards against the bar after the keeper got a finger on it I can see potential , anyway I totally agree. It's disappointing that we focus more on developing young strikers from other clubs than focusing on our own. I'm sure Saydee, for example, has benefited from regular games with us this season whilst Tom sits it out. No game time for Tom is not good for his development, surely a loan move would be good for all concerned?
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Post by gainsparkshrew on Apr 8, 2023 9:24:41 GMT 1
I remember he banged one in at Burton last season Dunny asked cotterill if he was surprised Cotterill bit dunnys head off and said "NO, he does that in training all the time" we've seen very little of him as a forward since then, but quite often if he gets the odd few minutes as a late sub he's often been lively and it gets mentioned on here we've never forget his first game and goal, and he's not even fully grown yet the fact the service for our forwards has been little or none has meant on the brief occasions he gets a game, he's often scapegoated and dragged off early, given that quite often the bench only has forwards on it obviously means the forwards are usually the ones subbed and 7 forwards in the starting squad usually mean 3 sit it out every game, proves the manager has really ****ed up with his squad build I remember the Oxford away game, Tom came on early in the 2nd half in a rare striker outing, and first time he got the ball he smashed it from about 25 yards against the bar after the keeper got a finger on it I can see potential , anyway I totally agree. It's disappointing that we focus more on developing young strikers from other clubs than focusing on our own. I'm sure Saydee, for example, has benefited from regular games with us this season whilst Tom sits it out. No game time for Tom is not good for his development, surely a loan move would be good for all concerned? Absolutely agree,but who would we loan him to? In reality he needs week in,week out local regular first team men's football at least at National League level or L2 preferable, certainly not NLN Perhaps if Chester get promoted ?
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Post by salop27 on Apr 8, 2023 9:36:28 GMT 1
Good strikers are like gold dust. The club doesn't seem to like to invest in the time needed to give them a decent chance to develop. Caton has done ok at Chester on loan for a teenager who's never regularly played men's football. His contract is up at the end of the season. Odds are he won't be offered a new contract. Wouldn't it be worth giving him a two year deal,on low wages, and sending him out on loan for a season again to see how he develops? Same thing with Bloxham. He needs to play every week for six months somewhere and see how he goes. These things are dependent on money though and unlike the majority of clubs we do have a sound financial base so let's use it a little bit more.
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Post by ssshrew on Apr 8, 2023 9:39:54 GMT 1
People forget he’s only like 19 years old. I’m fairly sure earlier in the season Cotterill addressed his lack of minutes and without giving too much away, suggested possibly some off field issues going on in his life. Might be wrong but I’m sure I read/heard this before Xmas I heard or read that too. We do need to remember that we have no idea what is going on in a player’s life or how they will react to events. He’s 19 and it may well be is appreciating how the club are treating him at the moment. It may be he isn’t - it’s not really for us to know just to hope he will come good in the end.
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 8, 2023 10:20:48 GMT 1
Bloxham reminds me of another striker we had----- bradshaw---- started well, faded, then in and out of team---- moved to Walsall, and then has had a decent career----- this could happen again with bloxham🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 8, 2023 10:23:41 GMT 1
Funny how Accrington can afford a team in the Central League and we can't.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 8, 2023 10:38:16 GMT 1
Bloxham reminds me of another striker we had----- bradshaw---- started well, faded, then in and out of team---- moved to Walsall, and then has had a decent career----- this could happen again with bloxham🤷♂️🤷♂️ i think turner didn't like him , if the manager doesn't trust in you it doesn't matter how good you are , you are in a loser , bloxham on a massive loser with us
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Post by wookeywombat on Apr 8, 2023 10:48:12 GMT 1
Bloxham reminds me of another striker we had----- bradshaw---- started well, faded, then in and out of team---- moved to Walsall, and then has had a decent career----- this could happen again with bloxham🤷♂️🤷♂️ i think turner didn't like him , if the manager doesn't trust in you it doesn't matter how good you are , you are in a loser , bloxham on a massive loser with us He was offered a new contract even though Turner did not like him!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 8, 2023 10:51:24 GMT 1
He's 19, he's still raw, we need to give him more time as I think he has shown enough to keep ahold of him and see how it goes.
I don't think anyone at this level is good enough to do it own their own and so they are very much dependent on the players around them and at the minute we're not very good. I wouldn't judge him too harshly at the minute considering the state we're in.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 8, 2023 10:56:47 GMT 1
i think turner didn't like him , if the manager doesn't trust in you it doesn't matter how good you are , you are in a loser , bloxham on a massive loser with us He was offered a new contract even though Turner did not like him!! 😝 i think you are confusing graham turner with roland w
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 8, 2023 14:29:41 GMT 1
Roland or Turner, it doesn't matter, it was a mistake to let him go---- played well yesterday for 'the wall', bit stronger these days is tom👍👍
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 8, 2023 15:52:45 GMT 1
i think turner didn't like him , if the manager doesn't trust in you it doesn't matter how good you are , you are in a loser , bloxham on a massive loser with us He was offered a new contract even though Turner did not like him!! On less money, hence leaving on a free……we cocked up if you remember….
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 15:53:14 GMT 1
Trouble is, three of them will have splinters on their bums the amount of time that they spend sitting on the bench!
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 8, 2023 15:55:20 GMT 1
Bradshaw always appeared lazy when at Town. This would not sit well with GT who was very much like GT with regard to workrate.
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