Boris Johnson.

[ssshrew]

My gut feeling is that he and Trump discussed their impending disgrace when they met recently and both know all the tricks of the trade.

He should be made to pay his own bills particularly as he is no longer an MP by his own choice.

It’s time that someone with some guts called his bluff.

I’m sick of hearing about him.

[Dancin]

If he hadn't resigned as an MP he would of faced a 90 day suspension

[Worthingshrew]

Absolutely damning report on Boris’s conduct. He’s a Trump wannabe.

[ssshrew]

Excellent. At least they haven’t whitewashed him.

[mattmw]

Jun 15, 2023 9:38:33 GMT 1 Worthingshrew said:

Absolutely damning report on Boris’s conduct. He’s a Trump wannabe.

Keeping in mind Johnson had some of the most senior judges and legal experts in the country defending his case, you do kind of wonder if there is more to come out about his time as PM.

[ssshrew]

I’m absolutely sure there is. Whether it will come out is another question.

There is no doubt he has devalued our politicians for a long time to come. Things were bad enough before him but it’s going to take a heck of a long time for trust to be rebuilt.

[Worthingshrew]

We all knew he was a liar, I guess we can now all say it without fear of contradiction or legal recourse. Amazingly there are still some MPs prepared to defend the indefensible, just like with Trump.

The real damage that they both do is to democracy itself and indeed to any notions of truth and integrity. Without that, we may as well be in N Korea.

[staffordshrew]

It makes me proud to be British that a wrong 'un can eventually be called out and, apart from a few murmers, not be feted by extreme supporters as per Trump.

[mattmw]

Report of the Committee to be discussed in Parliament on Monday.

So far only a small number of Conservative MP's have spoken in support of Johnson, so it looks unlikely at this stage there will be mass resignations in his support and a series of by elections for the party to defend. Even our Local Shrewsbury MP wh was previously very supportive of Johnson is quoted in the Star as saying he thinks the Committee report should be respected.

So guess the next stage is does Sunak take action against Johnson himself - maybe resind his peerage recomendations - or hope that he fades into the background and lets him lead the party into the next election. Slight echos of the Starmer v Corbyn issue in the Labour party so will be interesting to see how it pans out.

[staffordshrew]

Having failed in his legal bid to defend the indefensivble, Boris should now be asked to pay his legal costs. Otherwise it sets a precedent where no matter how wrong they are an MP can spend as much public money as they wish trying to weedle out of allegations.

[staffordshrew]

"Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility. I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else."

That's a quote from one of Johnson's teachers, in 1982, writing to his father.

[northwestman]

Sunak should withdraw the whip from any voting against the Privileges Committee report on Monday.

So that should include Rees-Mogg, Dorries, Clarke-Smith, Clarke, Duddridge, Fabricant, Berry, Jenkyns and others, most of whom have been beneficiaries of Johnson's Honours Lists.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/15/boris-johnson-allies-fury-partygate-report

But he won't as he's spineless. And I suspect a number of these characters will abstain in order to avoid any potential repercussions, which are extremely unlikely to come anyway.

[ssshrew]

Jun 15, 2023 17:26:13 GMT 1 staffordshrew said:

"Boris sometimes seems affronted when criticised for what amounts to a gross failure of responsibility. I think he honestly believes that it is churlish of us not to regard him as an exception, one who should be free of the network of obligation which binds everyone else."

That's a quote from one of Johnson's teachers, in 1982, writing to his father.

Since his father appears to be the same, I suspect this was the waste of a sentence.

Ghastly bunch the lot of them.

[Worthingshrew]

Jun 15, 2023 18:55:27 GMT 1 northwestman said:

Sunak should withdraw the whip from any voting against the Privileges Committee report on Monday.

So that should include Rees-Mogg, Dorries, Clarke-Smith, Clarke, Duddridge, Fabricant, Berry, Jenkyns and others, most of whom have been beneficiaries of Johnson's Honours Lists.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/15/boris-johnson-allies-fury-partygate-report

But he won't as he's spineless. And I suspect a number of these characters will abstain in order to avoid any potential repercussions, which are extremely unlikely to come anyway.

Agree about withdrawing whip but won’t as would inflame matters with grass roots.  Sounds like he’ll also avoid voting himself which is pathetic.  

[staffordshrew]

The Daily Mail inveils a serial liar as it's new columnist. What a joke.

[northwestman]

Jun 16, 2023 13:28:28 GMT 1 staffordshrew said:

The Daily Mail inveils a serial liar as it's new columnist. What a joke.

The Mail has been backing Johnson 100% for absolutely ages.

However, it looks like Dacre, together with Johnson's father, was removed from Boris's original resignation honours list. Presumably by Sunak.

He'll be wanting some revenge.

[MartinB]

So what odds on Rishi Sunak visiting Kiev tomorrow to avoid having to vote on Privileges Committee report?

[northwestman]

Jun 18, 2023 9:23:16 GMT 1 MartinB said:

So what odds on Rishi Sunak visiting Kiev tomorrow to avoid having to vote on Privileges Committee report?

I know he's hoping to push it through without a vote. Hopefully, the Opposition will prevent that.

[northwestman]

Jun 18, 2023 9:23:16 GMT 1 MartinB said:

So what odds on Rishi Sunak visiting Kiev tomorrow to avoid having to vote on Privileges Committee report?

At least three Cabinet ministers are set to stay away from Monday’s Commons vote on whether to strip Boris Johnson of his parliamentary pass.

The ministers have said they will abstain or not be in the country when MPs will be asked whether or not to endorse the privileges committee inquiry into whether the former prime minister deliberately misled the House.

Rishi Sunak, the Prime Minister, is not expected to cast a vote, as he is meeting a foreign leader in Downing Street.

In addition, The Telegraph understands that Mark Harper, the Transport Secretary, will be travelling and therefore unable to cast his vote.

Michael Gove, the Levelling Up Secretary, told the BBC on Sunday that he would abstain, saying he believed the punishment was too strong.

Daily Telegraph.

If it goes to a vote, I expect a raft of Tory abstentions or individuals being elsewhere. They don't want to upset their local Constituency Associations, which for some totally unfathomable reason still maintain strong support for Johnson.

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[mattmw]

Committee report to suspend Johnson for 90 days and remove his Pass to Parliament is voted through 354 votes to 7

Whatever your thoughts on Johnson - its some change in less than 4 years to winning an 80 seat majority in the general election to getting the support of just 7 Conservatives to keep his political career alive. When the Conservatives ditch a leader you have to say they sure do it big time.

[ssshrew]

What a lovely birthday present for him! I hope he got some cake to make up for it.

[kenwood]

I watched most of the debate in the House .
I almost fell asleep to be honest as MP after MP regurgitated the same argument over and over again . In fact it was a relief when Bill Cash, Rees-Mogg and Lia Nici came out with a different point of view .
The quality of the debate was poor, Jesus , how on earth do some people get to be MP’s apart from the obvious. Now, I’m no lover of Johnson or the Tory Party but I found the whole thing excruciating . Hours spent listening to the same old, same old .
I think I got the message from the off , Johnson is an out and out liar , he deserves everything coming his way and by the way , he lied again and again and threatened / ridiculed the Committee who found him guilty and should have waited until the report was published and yes , he lied so remove his entitlement to a pass and if he hadn’t resigned here’s a 90 day suspension cos he’s a liar .
From his “ supporters “the suspension was ridiculous, he hasn’t lied , there’s no evidence and Harman  shouldn’t have been Chairperson cos she’s previously tweeted that Johnson’s a liar which he isn’t, by the way.
I was desperate for Mad Nad to make an appearance just to add a bit of spice to the proceedings , perhaps forcing the Speaker to have her removed . Perhaps Rees -Mogg hitting Chris Bryant over the head with a copy of Hansard would have been a delight .
So, my view, yes, Johnson lied , how many MP’s does it take to reinforce the Committees findings and did it really need hours and hours of puerile discussion when surely there are other more pressing issues to discuss .
Finally, as a Labour supporter I have to say some of the offerings by Labour MP’s left me wondering is this really the best the party can do. Agreed there were very few Tory MP’s in the chamber for obvious reasons ,the result was a far gone conclusion though a few turned up from the bar for the vote . But overall if this showcased the quality of our MP’s overall then we are in trouble .
Even allowing for the fact that the topic up for discussion was limited I expected better - sorry but there it is!

[wookeywombat]

Agree with most of what you say. The stand outs, for me, were Jess Phillips who spoke with passion and without continual reference to notes as opposed to the Don Valley MP who droned, quite literally, through a litany of Johnson's successes?? It was made interesting by Bill Cash who seemed unable to understand the meaning of deliberate/knowingly in exchanges with an increasingly exasperated Chris Bryant.

[kenwood]

I forgot to mention the star turn, Nick Fletcher, Don Valley MP .
Stupendously boring , not blessed with the skills of a public speaker who constantly referred to his notes , loads of them .
He may well be a good MP but you wouldn’t want to be in his company longer than absolutely necessary.

[Worthingshrew]

Credit where credit’s due, Danny boy actually voted for the report against Boris. Really surprised me as I thought he was a Boris loyalist. Mind you he has had his own run ins with the Commons authorities.

[northwestman]

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/19/watchdog-criticises-decision-to-pay-boris-johnsons-265000-partygate-legal-bill

The Cabinet Office failed to follow proper processes when it allowed taxpayers’ money to be used to fund Boris Johnson’s Partygate legal bills, the UK’s public spending watchdog has said.

The government’s justifications for the £265,000 spend were also deemed to be “borderline” and not “wholly persuasive” by the National Audit Office (NAO).

In a report that will cause embarrassment inside the Cabinet Office, Gareth Davies, head of the NAO, said its audit team had exerted “significant effort” to investigate whether the spending was “a legitimate use of public money”.

The decision allowed Johnson to have his legal fees during the privileges committee inquiry into his Partygate denials covered by the taxpayer.

[northwestman]

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/24/boris-johnson-should-pay-back-taxpayer-funded-partygate-legal-fees-says-labour

Boris Johnson should pay back his taxpayer-funded legal fees for the Partygate inquiry and an investigation into “issues” with the Cabinet Office’s sign-off process should be launched, Labour has said.

Pat McFadden, the shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, said the £265,000 bill should be looked into after a critical report was published this week by the National Audit Office.

The public spending watchdog found the proper process was not followed when the Cabinet Office agreed to cover Johnson’s legal bills last August, because the decision was not made by the correct accounting officer. It found the correct official did endorse the decision, but a month after it had already been taken.

[Worthingshrew]

See that Boris is going to make his own programmes on GB News. As if GB News credibility couldn’t get any lower! Don’t know why anyone is interested in hearing from the former MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

[servernaside]

Oct 27, 2023 16:04:47 GMT 1 Worthingshrew said:

See that Boris is going to make his own programmes on GB News. As if GB News credibility couldn’t get any lower! Don’t know why anyone is interested in hearing from the former MP for Uxbridge and South Ruislip.

The question is................is GB News' credibility lower than that of the BBC.  I think not.