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Post by kenwood on Jan 27, 2023 13:17:09 GMT 1
Once old Boris managed to con the public at the last election, they seemed to think that they could get away with anything and have tested that to the max. Now, as it looks like their chances are shot for the next election, no outrage is too much for them. Not so sure. A couple of hundred thousand to ‘clear’ his name would allow him to lead the next Tory campaign. The populous are likely to fall for his lies and misinformation again and must be their only chance of improving their standings…. Had me worried there for a moment , I take it you mean improving the Tory Party standing. I thought at one time the Tory Party had no chance of winning an election this side of this millennium but on reflection I’m not too sure . Perhaps the next local elections will help form a clearer judgement . Boris coming back is their only hope , for them that is, but not for most of us . |
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Post by northwestman on Feb 1, 2023 22:09:59 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Feb 3, 2023 10:43:36 GMT 1
You hear it but you can't quite believe it.
Johnson, a key player in the devastating Brexit heist that's causing massive disruption, political turmoil and hundreds of billions of pounds damage to the UK, states that after their conflict with Russia, Ukraine should join the EU!
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Post by northwestman on Feb 4, 2023 20:32:44 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/society/2023/feb/04/only-10-of-boris-johnson-promised-40-new-hospitals-have-full-planning-permissionOnly a quarter of the 40 hospital construction projects that were at the heart of Boris Johnson’s 2019 general election manifesto have secured full planning permission, the Observer can reveal, amid angry claims from NHS figures that there is no chance the schemes will be delivered on time. Ministers have repeatedly claimed that the hospitals will be delivered by 2030, despite concerns from health chiefs and economists that “woefully insufficient” funding and rising costs will scupper the plan and put NHS capacity at risk. However, an investigation by the Observer has revealed that only 10 of the 40 projects have the full planning permissions they need to go ahead. Those involved in some of the projects said they had already faced lengthy delays, leaving them with decrepit and often unusable buildings. “There’s a 0% chance there’s going to be 40 new hospitals by 2030,” said the boss of one of the NHS trusts awaiting a new hospital. “We’ll be moderately lucky to have eight. At the moment we’re doing loads of maintenance work on an ongoing basis, trying to sort out roofs and theatres and all those things. Some hospitals are literally falling down.”
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Post by northwestman on Feb 8, 2023 17:48:42 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Mar 3, 2023 15:50:55 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/03/boris-johnson-give-evidence-privileges-committee-inquiryThere is evidence Boris Johnson misled MPs when he repeatedly said no lockdown rules had been broken in Downing Street, a cross-party committee has said in a damning report that shows No 10 officials apparently struggling to reconcile this insistence with reality. The interim report from the Conservative-majority privileges committee includes a witness saying Johnson told a packed No 10 gathering in November 2020, when strict distancing rules were in force, that “this is probably the most unsocially distanced gathering in the UK right now”. There are also indications that officials realised there was an issue with gatherings months before the first reporting about them in autumn 2021. One message from an unnamed No 10 official in April that year said a colleague was “worried about leaks of PM having a p**s-up and to be fair I don’t think it’s unwarranted”. There are also apparent signs of Johnson and his government trying to impede its work by withholding or redacting relevant evidence.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 4, 2023 20:50:39 GMT 1
Dominic Cummings gave Boris Johnson the nickname “the shopping trolley”, claiming his former boss was always “smashing from one side of the aisle to the other” during the pandemic.
New evidence suggests Mr Cummings was at least partially right. In WhatsApp conversations with ministers and officials, Mr Johnson veered between lockdown sceptic and lockdown zealot, as he reacted to the ever-changing data and advice.
The former prime minister would sometimes introduce an idea, only to abandon his stance even when others agreed with him.
Mr Johnson’s biggest internal conflict came over the three national lockdowns that were controversially imposed in 2020 and 2021.
A libertarian by nature, Mr Johnson repeatedly changed his mind over forcing people to stay at home depending on who he had been talking to.
On Friday, Rachel Johnson told The Telegraph that her brother was: “Often bounced into U-turns or Covid-sanitary fascism by being presented with selective fatality graphs and other data dashboards so that he did what [Matt] Hancock and Cummings - gibbering control freaks both - wanted.”
Daily Telegraph.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 4, 2023 22:27:16 GMT 1
And Boris doesn’t gibber?! Does she ever listen to her brother when he is speaking?!!!!!
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Post by wookeywombat on Mar 4, 2023 23:33:07 GMT 1
What has become patently obvious over the latest lockdown farrago is that Johnson is either a liar or unbelievably stupid.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 5, 2023 0:03:25 GMT 1
What has become patently obvious over the latest lockdown farrago is that Johnson is either a liar or unbelievably stupid. He is a liar and unbelievably stupid. |
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Post by northwestman on Mar 9, 2023 11:39:26 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/09/boris-johnson-criticised-making-millions-rarely-appearing-in-commonsBoris Johnson has been urged to stick to his job as an MP and save the speeches he charges private companies millions of pounds to hear for the House of Commons. Having already made more than £3.7m in 2023, the former prime minister has faced criticism for the limited time he has spent making contributions in parliament. New figures released by the “Westminster accounts” investigation, led by Sky News, show Johnson’s outside pay this year accounts for about 85% of that for all MPs. Johnson has spoken in the Commons 16 times across 10 days since leaving Downing Street last September, received free accommodation worth vast sums and racked up millions for speeches and an advance on his memoirs. All that is on top of his £84,000 salary as an MP and the six-figure annual allowance available to all former prime ministers. Yet at the height of the scandal over the Tory MP Owen Paterson being censured for paid lobbying, Johnson threw his support behind a plan to impose a “reasonable limit” on MPs’ outside earnings. He said in a letter to the Commons speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, that an MP’s primary tole should be to “serve their constituents and to represent their interests in parliament”. A hypocrite as well as a liar it would seem.
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Post by martinshrew on Mar 9, 2023 12:13:05 GMT 1
Good luck to him if he can ramble on and get paid for the privilege, plenty ramble on all day on here for **** all in return.
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 9, 2023 15:18:43 GMT 1
What has become patently obvious over the latest lockdown farrago is that Johnson is either a liar or unbelievably stupid. That was blatantly obvious from the start. He’s been caught twice before and sacked….. |
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Post by northwestman on Mar 22, 2023 20:23:08 GMT 1
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Post by cabanas2017 on Mar 22, 2023 20:37:52 GMT 1
People often feel the need for a scapegoat…… My Uncle was lost to Covid, but we don’t hold Boris Johnson responsible, but many mistakes were made by many departments not knowing whether their decisions would be right or wrong! |
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Post by northwestman on Mar 22, 2023 21:18:54 GMT 1
"I don't think you can write off Boris Johnson until he is buried at a crossroads with a stake driven through his heart".
Max Hastings.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 22, 2023 21:31:59 GMT 1
He’s just a born liar.I wouldn’t believe him if he told me today was Tuesday!
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Post by kenwood on Mar 23, 2023 8:29:13 GMT 1
I watched Boris perform yesterday , it was quite a performance .
He became very agitated at times , we didn’t hear or see the usual bluster and referrals to his classical heroes or indeed his maniacal arm waving repertoire.
What we did see however was a former PM fighting for his political life , getting annoyed and frustrated that members of the committee did t understand that his wife was entitled to be at one event as it was held in her home , ditto a stylist who only attended for less than a minute and that he had every right to thank staff for all the hard work they were doing during the pandemic.
Basically he has to prove that he told parliament what he had been advised to say by his officials and No 10 team and that it was reasonable for him to do so.
Sir Bernard Jenkins found it strange that he didn’t ask for advice from within the legion of lawyers etc whom he had access to! Very strange.
However ,did Johnson deliberately mislead parliament , intentionally or recklessly . In other words were the statements he made done so in good faith and on the basis of what he knew and believed at the time .
Personally I think he will prove his case or at least make it difficult for the committee to come up with a decision that he intentionally lied to parliament. The Committee are to look at and consider further evidence and if need be can recall Johnson before them.
A decision will be made and made public early Summer as I understand it.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 23, 2023 9:29:44 GMT 1
If the bloke who helped make the rules and then announced them to millions on the TV did t understand them then there’s not much hope for any of us.
As I say he’s an arrogant liar always has been and always will be.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 23, 2023 11:59:24 GMT 1
Boris is now a spent force, a proven liar, a causer of chaos. His chums no better, Jacob Rees-Mogg tweeted this during the hearing. @jacob_Rees_Mogg "Boris is doing very well against the marsupials". He needs to realise that this hearing was pariament policing itself, without that our system is in ruins, there are times when the rules have to be followed, even by those who consider themselves above the rules. |
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Post by davycrockett on Mar 23, 2023 12:26:24 GMT 1
Even DK was cautious about backing him and critical of the suggestions that the committee was biased.
Its pretty simple really if anyone watched him squirming like a maggot on a hook and thought he was being honest they need to look at themselves.
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Post by block12massive on Mar 23, 2023 17:20:06 GMT 1
A smoke and mirrors job if ever there was one.
The man is no longer PM, he is irrelevant.
But hauling him up in front of the Commons committee at the expense of the taxpayer at least gives his political opponents to kick the boot in one final time.
Wake me up when Hancock, SAGE, Starmer and all of the people and institutions that lied and were complicit with lying to us about the threat of Covid are put up in front of a committee.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 23, 2023 19:12:31 GMT 1
Boris has one big concern .
He may bat away questions from the parliamentary committee , engage the talents of his legal team to defend his position but there is a large spectre looming over him - despite his protests there is always Dominic Cummings pecking away at his carcass eager to ensure he doesn’t escape.
Cummings hates Johnson and Johnson despises Cummings . The two are engaged in a war of attrition which could see Johnson finally removed from parliament as an MP .
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 23, 2023 20:37:44 GMT 1
Isn’t Boris up before the committee because it is alleged he lied to Parliament and that is an offence?
Politicians of all parties lie to the public over all sorts of things every day but it isn’t illegal as such. Immoral maybe but not illegal.
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Post by kenwood on Mar 23, 2023 23:59:16 GMT 1
Isn’t Boris up before the committee because it is alleged he lied to Parliament and that is an offence? Politicians of all parties lie to the public over all sorts of things every day but it isn’t illegal as such. Immoral maybe but not illegal. As far as illegal is concerned I don’t think , if found that he has deliberately mislead parliament , he would face a criminal charge . Rather that members of the Commons would then vote to suspend him for a period of time. If they decide to suspend him for , I think 10 days that would mean his constituency party could decide to deselect him resulting in a by election which Johnson could well lose . Some political commentators say Boris Johnson is finished anyway , no matter what the committee decide. He is no longer a force to be reckoned with . His support from within the Tory Party is dwindling and we could be witnessing a new Tory Party emerging from the chaos brought about by his leadership over the years . Interesting times ahead for us all. |
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 24, 2023 8:14:02 GMT 1
I think misleading Parliament is illegal as far as their rules go whereas they don’t give a toss about misleading the public.
I think I read the other day that his constituency have already reselected him. Words fail me.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 24, 2023 13:49:44 GMT 1
" fighting for his political life and nothing is more important to Boris Johnson than Boris Johnson".
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Post by northwestman on Mar 25, 2023 10:30:15 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/24/boris-johnson-populist-enablers-trump-netanyahuJohnson's defence rested on his insistence, tetchily repeated, that it was “essential for work purposes” that he turn up at staff gatherings, say a few words and drink a toast. Since those morale boosting get-togethers were “necessary” for the functioning of the UK government, he believed they were permitted under the rules – and therefore he was telling the truth when he told MPs all guidance had been followed. He would hold that view “till the day I die”. Consider that for a moment. If Johnson had been describing a day when, say, Downing Street had learned of an incoming missile strike on London, forcing staff to convene immediately in a small, sealed situation room where it was impossible for generals and ministers to keep 2 metres apart, we might agree that, yes, those were exceptional circumstances and such a meeting was truly essential. But patting the back of a departing press officer? Lifting the spirits of a few spads? It’s not exactly the elimination of Osama bin Laden. It meets no one’s definition of “essential”. The proof is that next to no one else was doing it. Heads of hospitals, who would have loved to thank doctors and nurses who were daily saving the lives of others and risking their own, did not break out the bubbly and pass round the nibbles. They knew they couldn’t. We all knew. There was no exemption for “work events”. And by what strange logic might the rules have allowed Downing Street staff to gather to wave off a policy aide or speechwriter they’d known for all of a few months, and yet bar families from saying farewell to their dying loved ones? Did Johnson really reckon the rules held that it was fine for him to see off some comms aide with a glass of fizz, but that the Queen had to say goodbye to her husband of 73 years wholly alone? Wednesday’s hearing was proof that, while Johnson may have had Covid, he still hasn’t the faintest idea what the pandemic meant for the people of this country.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 25, 2023 10:55:57 GMT 1
Interviewer: 'Mr Johnson, out of all the lies you've ever told, which one is your favourite?'
Johnson: 'I've never told any lies.'
Interviewer: 'Yes, that's my favourite, too.'
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Post by northwestman on Mar 25, 2023 22:35:05 GMT 1
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