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Post by northwestman on Aug 17, 2022 9:22:15 GMT 1
Just need the injured players back and 2 or 3 additions and we'll be sound as a pound. I promise you, the best is still to come. But are we going to get any additions? Time is running out. Those players last night ran their socks off, but the bench was far too weak to be of much use in helping things out. Hence SC didn't use a single sub. Apart from Bowman possibly being back, the same situation will apply on Saturday. It's an awful lot of pressure to keep putting on the starting eleven. We have two more games the following week too!
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Post by blueboy48 on Aug 17, 2022 9:31:28 GMT 1
Credit to both teams, Derby came to play football and passed the ball really well. We defended equally well and posed an attacking threat but without much composure. You couldn't take your eye off the action for a second and we could have won it near the end but a point each was about right.
Marosi was my MOM but everyone did well to hang on to a point. I think we are finally seeing the emergence of Pyke as a first team player and I'm really pleased for him. He won his headers last night, his hold up play was good and he pressured their defence all night, he's very quick, can tackle and is versatile. He'll need to add assists and goals to his game to stay in the team but I put him above Bowman and Bloxham at the moment. O'Brien is out for six weeks so he should get a decent run in the team so it's up to him to take his chance. I hope he takes it.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 17, 2022 10:15:45 GMT 1
Decent game overall, both sides had chances they should gave put away so draw probably a fair result. Can't see us sustaining that for 90 mins on Saturday though unless the plan is to rest Udoh and maybe Bayliss and Pyke and give Bowman, Moore and Bloxham the 90 on Saturday? Feels like tonight was probably more winnable than Saturday but overall you'd probably have taken 4 pts from these 3 games last Friday so can't complain too much. 5 pts better off (and 2 goals) than we were this time last season. after about 70 minutes some of the players looked tierd and who can blame they worked there socks off but with very options on the bench to come on and give us fresh legs were it seemed like a constant stream of players from Derby.
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Post by blueboy48 on Aug 17, 2022 10:33:44 GMT 1
I can't agree with this. It was an excellent performance from salop (minus the finishing), top defending and tactical pressing. Sure, its all about opinions. But 20% possession in 45 minutes at home against a fellow 3rd division side for me isn't good enough. For me it was far from an excellent performance. Great work rate as ever, mind. I think we need to improve and then some in order to avoid getting ourselves involved in a relegation scrap again. Agree about the subs though. Derby finished 13th on points in tier 2 last season. Off the field was the problem.
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Post by wakemanender on Aug 17, 2022 10:33:46 GMT 1
Well done to Derby County in coming to the Mighty Shrews and getting a point.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 17, 2022 11:48:27 GMT 1
Credit to both teams, Derby came to play football and passed the ball really well. We defended equally well and posed an attacking threat but without much composure. You couldn't take your eye off the action for a second and we could have won it near the end but a point each was about right. Marosi was my MOM but everyone did well to hang on to a point. I think we are finally seeing the emergence of Pyke as a first team player and I'm really pleased for him. He won his headers last night, his hold up play was good and he pressured their defence all night, he's very quick, can tackle and is versatile. He'll need to add assists and goals to his game to stay in the team but I put him above Bowman and Bloxham at the moment. O'Brien is out for six weeks so he should get a decent run in the team so it's up to him to take his chance. I hope he takes it. Pyke put himself about a bit last night, I'm not quite sure I'd rank him above 15 goal Bowman from last season though. Based on what, he ran and won a couple of headers? Bloxham can do that for half the wages.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 17, 2022 12:31:19 GMT 1
Sure, its all about opinions. But 20% possession in 45 minutes at home against a fellow 3rd division side for me isn't good enough. For me it was far from an excellent performance. Great work rate as ever, mind. I think we need to improve and then some in order to avoid getting ourselves involved in a relegation scrap again. Agree about the subs though. Derby finished 13th on points in tier 2 last season. Off the field was the problem. Is it the same set of players though? Anyhow, Charlton weren't yet managed to beat them the other week. I guess we'll have to see how the season plays out and look back at this...👍
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Aug 17, 2022 14:30:57 GMT 1
Very lucky not to give Derby a penalty at the end, most refs would give that. Cracking effort, you can see a game plan there, it's just that no set pieces or press traps worked tonight. Balances it's self out after the bell end v Stanley.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 17, 2022 14:53:09 GMT 1
Thought that was a very entertaining and competitive games where both teams could’ve won it but I’m happy with a point.
Maroši, Flanagan, Leahy and Bayliss were superb. Very impressed with Bayliss but it’s almost as if his passes are too good for the players he passes too or they just don’t expect it. We’re a good team and our fitness levels are pretty strong, can see us finishing in the top half if we get another midfielder and striker each.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 17, 2022 16:34:43 GMT 1
Just need the injured players back and 2 or 3 additions and we'll be sound as a pound. I promise you, the best is still to come. But are we going to get any additions? Time is running out. Those players last night ran their socks off, but the bench was far too weak to be of much use in helping things out. Hence SC didn't use a single sub. Apart from Bowman possibly being back, the same situation will apply on Saturday. It's an awful lot of pressure to keep putting on the starting eleven. We have two more games the following week too! On your first point I'd say probably not, but that is based on last summers performance
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Post by thesensationaljt on Aug 17, 2022 17:32:13 GMT 1
I had a quick look at the Rams message board. I lost count of the number of posters who thought they "should be beating the likes of Shrewsbury". Who the **** do they think they are?
They are all clearly suffering from False Superior Syndrome. The main symptoms are : -
Thinking you're better than any Juan else.
Laughing when the attendance of an udder club is announced.
Getting annoyed when "little" teams don't roll over and let you score 6 goals.
Thinking you should be beating the likes of, (insert as necessary).
Conveniently forgetting you were in financial s**t last season and should probably have a points deduction if there was any justice.
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 17, 2022 17:40:32 GMT 1
Yep, heard it all before, especially in the 80s--- when all the big boys got turned over---- by little owd shrewsbury👍🤗🤗😁😁
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 17, 2022 18:49:28 GMT 1
Credit to both teams, Derby came to play football and passed the ball really well. We defended equally well and posed an attacking threat but without much composure. You couldn't take your eye off the action for a second and we could have won it near the end but a point each was about right. Marosi was my MOM but everyone did well to hang on to a point. I think we are finally seeing the emergence of Pyke as a first team player and I'm really pleased for him. He won his headers last night, his hold up play was good and he pressured their defence all night, he's very quick, can tackle and is versatile. He'll need to add assists and goals to his game to stay in the team but I put him above Bowman and Bloxham at the moment. O'Brien is out for six weeks so he should get a decent run in the team so it's up to him to take his chance. I hope he takes it. Pyke put himself about a bit last night, I'm not quite sure I'd rank him above 15 goal Bowman from last season though. Based on what, he ran and won a couple of headers? Bloxham can do that for half the wages. While he had a reasonably encouraging game, it shouldn't be forgotten that when he had his big chance in the box in the last minute he completely fluffed his lines. Bowman and to a lesser extent Udoh both made up for periods of being ineffective by chipping in with goals and assists across the season. Pyke will need to start doing that soon to keep his place.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 17, 2022 20:15:11 GMT 1
Pyke put himself about a bit last night, I'm not quite sure I'd rank him above 15 goal Bowman from last season though. Based on what, he ran and won a couple of headers? Bloxham can do that for half the wages. While he had a reasonably encouraging game, it shouldn't be forgotten that when he had his big chance in the box in the last minute he completely fluffed his lines. Bowman and to a lesser extent Udoh both made up for periods of being ineffective by chipping in with goals and assists across the season. Pyke will need to start doing that soon to keep his place. pyke had started in 3 games 3-2 carlisle 2-1 wycombe 0-0 derby we didn't score in either of the other 2
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 17, 2022 20:40:31 GMT 1
While he had a reasonably encouraging game, it shouldn't be forgotten that when he had his big chance in the box in the last minute he completely fluffed his lines. Bowman and to a lesser extent Udoh both made up for periods of being ineffective by chipping in with goals and assists across the season. Pyke will need to start doing that soon to keep his place. pyke had started in 3 games 3-2 carlisle 2-1 wycombe 0-0 derby we didn't score in either of the other 2 As I said, there's signs of encouragement in his performances and he's working hard. If we can keep up a 2 wins and 1 draw ratio across the entire season without him scoring or assisting at all, then yes I'd agree he'll keep his place. As that obviously won't happen, it's hardly a "gotcha" to suggest a starting striker might need to score a league goal for us at some point if he wants to keep his place though, and it's not unfair to also highlight alongside the signs of encouragement him completely losing his bearings and indeed almost his feet when he had his one chance yesterday. I'll be delighted if he starts scoring, and if he does enough to keep one of Udoh, Bowman, Bloxham and O'Brien out of the team across the season that'll mean he's doing alright.
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Post by blueboy48 on Aug 17, 2022 20:42:07 GMT 1
While he had a reasonably encouraging game, it shouldn't be forgotten that when he had his big chance in the box in the last minute he completely fluffed his lines. Bowman and to a lesser extent Udoh both made up for periods of being ineffective by chipping in with goals and assists across the season. Pyke will need to start doing that soon to keep his place. pyke had started in 3 games 3-2 carlisle 2-1 wycombe 0-0 derby we didn't score in either of the other 2 I think it was Udoh that missed a very decent chance in the last minute.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 17, 2022 20:58:39 GMT 1
My two pennies worth...
Really enjoyed myself last night. The rain stayed off, it wasn't stupidly hot, got a seat at the fanzone, away end sold out, massive midweek crowd, south stand flag display and derby unveiling their big flag, good entertaining passing footy for 90mins! Points shared. Had a great time. Well done all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2022 21:00:29 GMT 1
I had a quick look at the Rams message board. I lost count of the number of posters who thought they "should be beating the likes of Shrewsbury". Who the **** do they think they are? Quite a lot of our fans have a chip on our shoulder when Derby (or another ex Prem/Champ club who have fallen on hard times) say something like this. Personally I've got no problem with it because realistically they should be, of course they have no divine right to beat us but by near every possible metric they are a bigger club than us and with the calibre of players they have & money they are spending they should be beating us.
I've said it many times but Derby/Sheff Weds/Sunderland/Ipswich being in the third tier and being accused of arrogance is no different to us being in the Conference and being accused by nearly every non league fan of being arrogant for daring to say we expect to be challenging for promotion. And if we didn't beat the likes of Dover, Margate or Tamworth then our fans would go into meltdown, that came from us thinking we were bigger than them. And let's not forget that many of our fans will say that we should be winning games like Morecambe, Accrington, Burton, etc. surely thats being disrespectful to them? Yes of course there are limits, if someone says we are a tinpot, tiny side then they are an arrogant t**t, but if someone says 'with our budget we should be challenging for promotion and we should be beating a side who are normally in the bottom half' then it doesn't seem too unreasonable
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 17, 2022 21:22:46 GMT 1
I had a quick look at the Rams message board. I lost count of the number of posters who thought they "should be beating the likes of Shrewsbury". Who the **** do they think they are? Quite a lot of our fans have a chip on our shoulder when Derby (or another ex Prem/Champ club who have fallen on hard times) say something like this. Personally I've got no problem with it because realistically they should be, of course they have no divine right to beat us but by near every possible metric they are a bigger club than us and with the calibre of players they have & money they are spending they should be beating us.
I've said it many times but Derby/Sheff Weds/Sunderland/Ipswich being in the third tier and being accused of arrogance is no different to us being in the Conference and being accused by nearly every non league fan of being arrogant for daring to say we expect to be challenging for promotion. And if we didn't beat the likes of Dover, Margate or Tamworth then our fans would go into meltdown, that came from us thinking we were bigger than them. And let's not forget that many of our fans will say that we should be winning games like Morecambe, Accrington, Burton, etc. surely thats being disrespectful to them? Yes of course there are limits, if someone says we are a tinpot, tiny side then they are an arrogant t**t, but if someone says 'with our budget we should be challenging for promotion and we should be beating a side who are normally in the bottom half' then it doesn't seem too unreasonable Especially when they don't know us
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Post by chid on Aug 17, 2022 22:46:54 GMT 1
As a football fan who watches a dozen matches a season at various grounds. I thought that Shrewsbury played superbly in particularly in defence, where goalkeeper Marko Marosi looked confident and assured in commanding his penalty area. The rest of the defence also played with composure which transmitted to the rest of the team. I thought that Shrewsbury did lack a bit of self believe in attack, although having watched both Shrewsbury home league games, as more of a casual supporter due to grassroots refereeing commitments. I think Shrewsbury should hold their own quite comfortably as long as before this transfer window expires they bring in at least two more experienced players. As from what I witnessed Bennett, Bennett and O'brien are out injured, that means last night's bench only had a mere six subs and apart from Tom Bloxham the vast majority with limited first team experience.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 17, 2022 23:26:21 GMT 1
pyke had started in 3 games 3-2 carlisle 2-1 wycombe 0-0 derby we didn't score in either of the other 2 I think it was Udoh that missed a very decent chance in the last minute. it was, the ball fell to udoh from a half chance created by pyke just seconds earlier, pyke nipped in and lined up a shot only for it to be taken off his toe ,
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Aug 18, 2022 6:50:31 GMT 1
I think it was Udoh that missed a very decent chance in the last minute. it was, the ball fell to udoh from a half chance created by pyke just seconds earlier, pyke nipped in and lined up a shot only for it to be taken off his toe , Um…is this true? Pyke (who had a solid game) completely miskicked the more presentable chance that came his way, sending it backwards to accidentally set up Udoh for his left footed effort. I suppose Udoh’s is more visible as a chance because you see him blaze it over. But Pyke fluffing a golden opportunity is what it is, despite the furious determination of blueboy48 to rewrite history. Very clear from the highlights, which confirms the view of many in the ground. Investigation commissioned by: B&A Fact Checking service Investigation conducted by: Inspector Swan
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2022 11:32:20 GMT 1
I think it was Udoh that missed a very decent chance in the last minute. it was, the ball fell to udoh from a half chance created by pyke just seconds earlier, pyke nipped in and lined up a shot only for it to be taken off his toe , Staggeringly bad take 😂 Watch it back, Pyke absolutely fluffed his lines but fair play, his standing leg laid it off perfectly. If only he had that precise a touch and pass when he meant it!
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2022 16:15:34 GMT 1
it could have been a lot worse, it could have been Pyke that had blasted over from a position where it was harder to miss than score, we'd have had a 12 page thread on it had that been the case
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Post by chirkshrew on Aug 18, 2022 16:33:32 GMT 1
Never mind, he'll score one day👍👍🤔🤔🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Post by Valerioch on Aug 18, 2022 17:34:57 GMT 1
it could have been a lot worse, it could have been Pyke that had blasted over from a position where it was harder to miss than score, we'd have had a 12 page thread on it had that been the case zzzzzzzz No we wouldn’t
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Post by shrewswolf on Aug 18, 2022 18:08:12 GMT 1
it could have been a lot worse, it could have been Pyke that had blasted over from a position where it was harder to miss than score, we'd have had a 12 page thread on it had that been the case zzzzzzzz Pyke’s miss was just as bad and there isn’t a 12 page thread. He played well but he’s no goal threat at all (yet) so he’ll have to find some cutting edge soon or he’ll be back on the bench.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Aug 18, 2022 18:20:16 GMT 1
it could have been a lot worse, it could have been Pyke that had blasted over from a position where it was harder to miss than score, we'd have had a 12 page thread on it had that been the case zzzzzzzz Pyke’s miss was just as bad and there isn’t a 12 page thread. He played well but he’s no goal threat at all (yet) so he’ll have to find some cutting edge soon or he’ll be back on the bench. Or tbf, more of those loose-limbed assists which are reminiscent of a young Xavi and Iniesta combined.
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Post by belfastshrew on Aug 18, 2022 18:53:50 GMT 1
Hmm has a good ring to it...Messi, Xavi, Pykey 👍
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Post by Pilch on Aug 18, 2022 21:06:49 GMT 1
it could have been a lot worse, it could have been Pyke that had blasted over from a position where it was harder to miss than score, we'd have had a 12 page thread on it had that been the case zzzzzzzz No we wouldn’t we ? I meant just you ? what changed ? Nothing - he’s been 💩 since day 1! can you name any that want Elliot ? No, it was an opinion on Pyke, not fact. I don’t work at the club or know any insiders, so don’t know What I would say to support my opinion, is thankfully we managed to loan him out to the worst team in the 92 last season, and his record was crap there too. It’s painful watching him, not football league standard. A total waste of a wage from day 1 A minor inconvenience, but that is why you have a squad. As for Pyke… dog s**te unfortunately, and always has been for us. I highly doubt any other football league club wants him It was all over for Pyke and Cosgrove after their “efforts” at Wigan away. Great news they are both gone, but god are we light without a couple more in Agree on Pyke - **** him off with Cosgrove I believe it's a B&A tradition to bump these signing threads to cast aspertions about the quality of the player and/or manager who singed him. So yeah, Pyke and Ricketts both pretty s**t eh? Pyke should follow him in to the building industry as he’s no footballer Good competition now. Pyke did well last night so I’m pleased with our striking department. Welcome Sam, hope you have a successful season and enjoy your time at Shrewsbury. I thought Pyke was woeful and looks nothing like a league one footballer or striker. Hope we get him off the books to free up budget.
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