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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 11, 2022 10:56:43 GMT 1
News now saying the energy cap could be forecast to go as high as £5k in 2023. If the heatwave keeps up, energy companies go ahead with lifting direct debits from 26th August and we get another 0.5% rate increase in early September I think it's looking very dicey for a prospective new government. We could see rioting pretty much the minute Truss is appointed. I'm going to guess around September 10th. Poll tax riots 2.0 unless somebody pulls their finger out and actually does something. Fools rush in.
Ben Wallace didn't even stand as a candidate. Had more sense, maybe later.
You may very well be right there. Could be a very short lived premiership for whoever gets it.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 11, 2022 11:20:27 GMT 1
When he resigned as Tory leader but wanted to stay on as caretaker PM, Johnson said, "I want you to know that from now until my successor is in place, your interests will be served and the government of the country will be carried on."
Another lie to add to his portfolio.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 11, 2022 11:36:14 GMT 1
When he resigned as Tory leader but wanted to stay on as caretaker PM, Johnson said, "I want you to know that from now until my successor is in place, your interests will be served and the government of the country will be carried on." Another lie to add to his portfolio. They always bugger off on holiday in August and leave some second rater like Dominic Raab in charge. The problem this time is Boris wants to savour his last moments, but doesn't want to actually do much or delegate the power.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 11, 2022 11:38:05 GMT 1
When he resigned as Tory leader but wanted to stay on as caretaker PM, Johnson said, "I want you to know that from now until my successor is in place, your interests will be served and the government of the country will be carried on." Another lie to add to his portfolio. They always bugger off on holiday in August and leave some second rater like Dominic Raab in charge. The problem this time is Boris wants to savour his last moments, but doesn't want to actually do much or delegate the power Raab was on a beach when the Afghanistan crisis kicked off!
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 11, 2022 11:43:01 GMT 1
They always bugger off on holiday in August and leave some second rater like Dominic Raab in charge. The problem this time is Boris wants to savour his last moments, but doesn't want to actually do much or delegate the power Raab was on a beach when the Afghanistan crisis kicked off! Hadn't he just done the August stint as stand-in PM?
Wasn't the beach in Afghanistan
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Post by block12massive on Aug 11, 2022 14:47:42 GMT 1
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Post by wookeywombat on Aug 11, 2022 15:01:19 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 11, 2022 15:44:13 GMT 1
No problem at all with politicians having summer holidays. Apart from Boris, who promised government as usual and, come September, can have plenty of time off. I suppose, in just the same way as Liz gets "misunderstood", we should have realised that when Boris said "government as usual" that meant he'll be missing until September.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Aug 12, 2022 7:50:59 GMT 1
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Post by kenwood on Aug 12, 2022 8:52:59 GMT 1
It seems nailed on she’s going to be our next PM but hopefully not for long 😉
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 12, 2022 8:58:59 GMT 1
She’s like a puppet, but who’s pulling the strings?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 9:04:46 GMT 1
Must be very disconcerting for safe and sensible, in a Tory way, Sunak to be responding to the barmy, ever u turning, say anything to get in Truss and know that she's still apparently ahead of him in the polls.
The Truss campaign is like an out of control steam train, full of hot air and smoke (and mirrors), but seemingly unstoppable.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 12, 2022 15:40:26 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 12, 2022 16:30:13 GMT 1
You can't say he isn't doing his bit for "hard working people". Providing much needed Northern Powerhouse jobs.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 12, 2022 16:38:22 GMT 1
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Post by Worthingshrew on Aug 12, 2022 16:42:17 GMT 1
Hope he’s paying the VAT and it’s not cash in hand.
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Post by ssshrew on Aug 12, 2022 16:54:15 GMT 1
Well he better get it finished quickly. Yorkshire Water have a hosepipe ban in two weeks and filling paddling pools, even exceptionally large ones, will nit be allowed.
It’s all just another reason why we are not going to get a decent PM. One candidate seems to be a complete nut case and the other just doesn’t have a clue about how the majority of the population live and what their priorities are.
We are stuffed whichever one gets in. It will just be out of the frying pan and into the fire, albeit a different type of heat than before.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 12, 2022 18:04:06 GMT 1
Liz Truss's knowledge of geography comes to the fore again! www.indy100.com/politics/liz-truss-hustings-derbyshire-gloucestershireThe foreign secretary, who is hoping to win the leadership contest along with the keys to Number 10, informed audience members they were in Derbyshire when the hustings actually took place a bit further south in Gloucestershire. Labour's Shadow Levelling Up secretary Lisa Nandy simply tweeted: "God help us."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 11:26:17 GMT 1
One thing that still makes me laugh is seeing the two of them making these pledges/promises to do various things to sort out the mess the country is in, completely forgetting that for the past 12 years their party has been in power.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 14, 2022 14:10:13 GMT 1
Sadly, Sunak may be as nuts as Truss. One radicalised individual attacks Rushdie and he wants to strengthen sanctions on Iran and promote another flare up in an unstable world?
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Post by northwestman on Aug 14, 2022 17:17:08 GMT 1
Away with the fairies? Running up debts by throwing money at the Energy Companies? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11110043/Chancellor-Nadhim-Zahawi-asks-Treasury-officials-draw-plans-cut-400-energy-bills.htmlThe Treasury is drafting plans to pay energy suppliers to cut bills by an extra £400 this winter in an effort to help people with extraordinary price rises. The proposals would see the January price cap, which is expected to rise to £4,200, reduced by £400. This would be done by getting preventing an allowance that suppliers can charge customers, which would instead be paid for by the Government in the form of loans. Officials in the Treasury have been working on the scheme, which could see the Government take on liabilities of £9billion, at the behest of the Chancellor, Nadhim Zahawi.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 14, 2022 17:22:59 GMT 1
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 14, 2022 18:21:49 GMT 1
Jam and mustard....? I do hope not....haha
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 14, 2022 18:58:47 GMT 1
Bearing in mind he's aiming at the Tory member's votes, he's trying to show he has some good wholesome tasty policies that will make him the preserve of the more thoughtful of Tory voters, contrasting himself with Truss' instant microwave policies that will leave the country in a pickle.
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Post by armchairfan on Aug 14, 2022 19:36:34 GMT 1
I could well do without all these culinary references - somebody will see it as an opportunity to references to it as "a dog's breakfast"....lol
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 14, 2022 20:02:45 GMT 1
Well, let's face it, Truss comes out with a load of of tripe, while Sunak does the stodgy, starchy, stuff.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 15, 2022 8:59:28 GMT 1
www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/14/labour-announces-plan-to-freeze-energy-price-cap-with-reinforced-windfall-taxKeir Starmer has put a beefed-up £8bn windfall tax on energy company profits at the heart of a new plan to stop people having to pay “a penny more” on fuel bills this winter. The Labour leader confirmed that under his plan the energy price cap would be frozen at the current level, meaning that an expected 80% rise in October – taking an average household bill to about £3,600 – would not go ahead. Starmer said the country was facing “a national emergency” and that Labour “wouldn’t let people pay a penny more” on energy bills as a result of his “fully funded plan”. A typical family would save £1,000, he claimed. But now the catch: Starmer said the plan would cost £29bn over the winter and that it could be funded by extending the scope of the windfall tax on energy companies (raising £8bn), halting the proposed £400 payments for all households offered by the government to compensate for the price cap rise scheduled for October (saving £14bn), and lowering government interest payments on debt (saving £7bn), which Labour said would be possible because its plan would reduce inflation. Giving with one hand and taking with another. Apparently, this plan is extremely popular with Tory voters though, so Truss and Sunak will be obliged to respond.
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Post by northwestman on Aug 15, 2022 9:12:19 GMT 1
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 15, 2022 9:18:27 GMT 1
Starmer's plan is a good. well worked out plan. If people were not facing huge increases it could stave off a winter of strikes for big pay rises - 5 to 7 per cent would not be such an actual cut in people's standard of living then.
You can't really expect to get the £400 too!
But, on the other hand, I would expect that a Labour government would have allowed the triple lock to give 5.2% to pensioners in April and would not have took the callous step of stopping the additional benefit payment - it was completely wrong to expect people on very low incomes to just have the additional payment withdrawn and we have seen the effect of doing that ever since.
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 15, 2022 9:18:37 GMT 1
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