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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 15, 2022 12:54:43 GMT 1
14 years and counting today since we last played Rexham in a Football League game. I am sure Noto will claim how fantastic his rabble are because they are unbeaten against us for 14 years. 14 years and counting. Going to be AT LEAST another another year before we cross swords in the FL again, and hopefully quite a few more. A whole generation who cant remember us playing at the same level. Not only that but the club had to sell its soul to Hollywood and draft in millionaire owners to bankroll a squad of highly paid mercenaries who will still likely only finish 2nd best in the 5th tier whereas Shrewsbury has always stood on its own two feet and returned to the football league at the first attempt with fans rallying around and delivering a record number of season ticket sales. No social media sponsorships or docusoap deals needed. No amount of canny marketing is going to ever change that simple fact. |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 15, 2022 15:55:07 GMT 1
Stockport are 1-0 up at Grimsby, but Sarcevic has been sent off.
They've also had 4 booked in a 10 minute period.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 15, 2022 16:01:14 GMT 1
14 years and counting. Going to be AT LEAST another another year before we cross swords in the FL again, and hopefully quite a few more. A whole generation who cant remember us playing at the same level. Not only that but the club had to sell its soul to Hollywood and draft in millionaire owners to bankroll a squad of highly paid mercenaries who will still likely only finish 2nd best in the 5th tier whereas Shrewsbury has always stood on its own two feet and returned to the football league at the first attempt with fans rallying around and delivering a record number of season ticket sales. No social media sponsorships or docusoap deals needed. No amount of canny marketing is going to ever change that simple fact. Rubbish. The new owners haven't bank rolleg the squad. That's been done by revitalising the club and selling 9000 tickets a game. They invested £2 million. The same amount we had in the bank after Covid but let's pretend they've bought the league. |
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Apr 15, 2022 16:15:34 GMT 1
GOOOAAAL! Wrexham 0-1 Solihull Moors
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Apr 15, 2022 16:57:19 GMT 1
1-1 FT. Good team Solihull Moors.
I watched the game and heard on commentary Wrexham spent more on agents fee’s this season that the whole Solihull Moors budget. Let that sink in.
Massive opportunity missed for the Wrecks after Stockport lost at home to Grimsby.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Apr 15, 2022 17:13:21 GMT 1
1-1 FT. Good team Solihull Moors. I watched the game and heard on commentary Wrexham spent more on agents fee’s this season that the whole Solihull Moors budget. Let that sink in. Massive opportunity missed for the Wrecks after Stockport lost at home to Grimsby. Still Stockports title to throw away. Meanwhile in the pub league former play off chasing Boreham Wood gift Dover only their second win of the season, at home as well. Really fallen away. Dagenham 7 Barnet 2. Wouldnt bet on them sneaking into the play offs (maybe even beating Wrexham in the play offs) the way they are going. |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 15, 2022 17:34:28 GMT 1
1-1 FT. Good team Solihull Moors. I watched the game and heard on commentary Wrexham spent more on agents fee’s this season that the whole Solihull Moors budget. Let that sink in. Massive opportunity missed for the Wrecks after Stockport lost at home to Grimsby. Who tells you this rubbish? We have spent £80k on agents, compared with Solihull’s £35k ON AGENTS. Stockport’s agents’ bill is over £100k. Adam Rooney, Dallas, Storer, Sbarra, Osborne etc won’t be on peanuts. Solihull have money, trust me. |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 15, 2022 17:37:29 GMT 1
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 15, 2022 17:46:11 GMT 1
It's a good division is the National League. I've seen some really entertaining games on BT Sport. A lot of the teams at the top have got to play each other yet.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 15, 2022 17:52:21 GMT 1
at least Stockport have got the difficult Grimsby game out of the way and Wrexham are only 1 point closer.
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 15, 2022 18:04:51 GMT 1
at least Stockport have got the difficult Grimsby game out of the way and Wrexham are only 1 point closer. True, but Stockport do have a few more ‘Grimsby’ games to come, including a visit to ourselves. They’ll also miss Saracevic for the next 3 games. Unlikely we’ll peg it back, but it’s going to be close. Next up - Stockport play Solihull and we’re home to Altrincham. Interesting. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 16, 2022 0:01:14 GMT 1
Not only that but the club had to sell its soul to Hollywood and draft in millionaire owners to bankroll a squad of highly paid mercenaries who will still likely only finish 2nd best in the 5th tier whereas Shrewsbury has always stood on its own two feet and returned to the football league at the first attempt with fans rallying around and delivering a record number of season ticket sales. No social media sponsorships or docusoap deals needed. No amount of canny marketing is going to ever change that simple fact. Rubbish. The new owners haven't bank rolleg the squad. That's been done by revitalising the club and selling 9000 tickets a game. They invested £2 million. The same amount we had in the bank after Covid but let's pretend they've bought the league. Naive. Wrexham ran up a massive loss in the first year of Reynolds and co owning the club, about £1.1m off a pitiful turnover of £1.4m or so. Gates have increased but not by that much and yet they now have a playing squad, the likes of Mullins and Palmer, who've dropped two divisions to play for them (paid a club record fee for the latter). Doesn't sound like a club that hasn't benefitted financially from its new ownership. You really think Expedia, tiktok and the like would have any interest in sponsoring the club if it weren't for Reynolds etc? |
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Post by theNOTORIOUSfbs on Apr 16, 2022 0:18:16 GMT 1
I've just come in. Drink in hand. Celebrating! Every Tuesday and Saturday/Easter Friday games really are just like Christmas! p**ssed as a matress! (put your arms out wide as if...you're carrying a matress). We're happy enough. More than happy with everything. Solihull was always going to be difficult. They could easily take points off Stockport 'County' on Monday.
We're even happier though 'County' lost. Absolutely foookin' delighted! The predicted wobble has officially started. Their run in looks tough. I've not said it once. Not twice or three times. Till I'm blue in the face....Stockport will drop points. It'll go down to the Stockport game home in May. Live on TV I'll be watching poolside from Nissi. Kicking every ball, heading every ball, going in for every challenge in my swimming trunks.
9,981 (226 away) It's.....absolutely MASSIVE! The title and automatic promotion spot is not done and dusted. Not declared in March by Stockport fans
Let's see how Stockport stand after the next 3 games. I'd of taken a Wrexham draw and Stockport.
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 6:44:50 GMT 1
Frank - the figures to which you refer are pre-takeover I,e. lockdown and for the large part no attendances. I would think they’ll be VERY VERY different next time. Our gates have almost doubled and we’ve sold over 5,000 season tickets already for next season. That’s just renewals, they haven’t gone on general sale yet. I dread to think of the dire straits we’d be in under fans’ ownership, but with R&R we’ve effectively won the lottery. Totally take your point about TikTok, Expedia, Aviation gin, Mullin etc not being interested in little old Wrexham if it wasn’t for R&R, but of all the clubs they looked at across the continent of Europe, they happened to choose us. However, no one should think for one second they’re bankrolling us. We’re generating an obscene amount of money for this level, and I look forward to seeing next year’s accounts.
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Post by MartinB on Apr 16, 2022 7:34:11 GMT 1
Not only that but the club had to sell its soul to Hollywood and draft in millionaire owners to bankroll a squad of highly paid mercenaries who will still likely only finish 2nd best in the 5th tier whereas Shrewsbury has always stood on its own two feet and returned to the football league at the first attempt with fans rallying around and delivering a record number of season ticket sales. No social media sponsorships or docusoap deals needed. No amount of canny marketing is going to ever change that simple fact. Rubbish. The new owners haven't bank rolleg the squad. That's been done by revitalising the club and selling 9000 tickets a game. They invested £2 million. The same amount we had in the bank after Covid but let's pretend they've bought the league. "They invested £2 million" That's the same as "There was no party" followed by "I didn't know it was a party" |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 8:06:43 GMT 1
£2m investment was the carrot dangled in front of the fans (previous owners) and has already/will be going into off-pitch developments such as a new training ground, upgrading ground facilities, etc. The playing side of things is totally financed by revenue, with plenty left over and more to come. R&R are extremely successful and canny businessmen with a squeaky clean global brand. Genuinely decent people. We’re really lucky and I totally understand the envy.
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Post by MartinB on Apr 16, 2022 8:13:07 GMT 1
£2m investment was the carrot dangled in front of the fans (previous owners) and has already/will be going into off-pitch developments such as a new training ground, upgrading ground facilities, etc. The playing side of things is totally financed by revenue, with plenty left over and more to come. R&R are extremely successful and canny businessmen with a squeaky clean global brand. Genuinely decent people. We’re really lucky and I totally understand the envy. Why would a well run League 1 Club be envious of a team that has been a shambles in the Conference/National League for the last 14 years? Certainly not me. How long before Wob & Wyan get bored? Remember they are actors so how do you know when the show passion if it is real? Genuine question that. |
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Post by frankwellshrews on Apr 16, 2022 8:50:55 GMT 1
£2m investment was the carrot dangled in front of the fans (previous owners) and has already/will be going into off-pitch developments such as a new training ground, upgrading ground facilities, etc. Interesting, but that's not what your financials are showing so at least one version of events isn't true . We can only see the balance sheet on companies House but it seems pretty clear a bit more than £2m in share capital was issued, very little in the way of fixed asset additions, a £1.1m loss and a bit less than £900k cash at the end of it. Pretty clear more than half of that initial £2m investment went on underwriting that first year loss (during which R and R were offering cash bonuses to the squad if it made the playoffs). That's the dictionary definition of "bankrolled". I don't doubt turnover will have increased but I also don't doubt Wrexham will have a significant wage bill. Agree, next season's books will be interesting. |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 9:06:56 GMT 1
£2m investment was the carrot dangled in front of the fans (previous owners) and has already/will be going into off-pitch developments such as a new training ground, upgrading ground facilities, etc. The playing side of things is totally financed by revenue, with plenty left over and more to come. R&R are extremely successful and canny businessmen with a squeaky clean global brand. Genuinely decent people. We’re really lucky and I totally understand the envy. Why would a well run League 1 Club be envious of a team that has been a shambles in the Conference/National League for the last 14 years? Certainly not me. How long before Wob & Wyan get bored? Remember they are actors so how do you know when the show passion if it is real? Genuine question that. Can’t argue with you that we’ve been a shambles for the last few years, but that’s gone now. I prefer to look at their business acumen, which is really impressive. Can only speak as I find, who knows what is around the corner. Up to now R&R’s ownership has been faultless and gone far better than anyone expected. |
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Post by northwestman on Apr 16, 2022 9:12:23 GMT 1
Assuming that Stockport get the automatic promotion place, then playoff matches between Wrexham, AFC Halifax, Solihull Moors, Chesterfield, Notts County and Grimsby look somewhat challenging!
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Post by MartinB on Apr 16, 2022 9:14:54 GMT 1
Which of these would people be envious of?
1) Football League Club with majority of last 13 years being in League 1 or Conference National League Side for 13 years
2) Club who have played in new modern stadium for 13 years or Club who has part of its ground closed due to failing to meet safety standards.
3) Club with no debt for last 13 years or Club who has been financially shambles during that time.
4) Club owed by a local supporter or Club with various Cowboy owners or no connection to the area?
5) Club whose owners own their ground or not owned a ground over last 13 years?
6) Club who own their own training facilities or Club who has had to hire them?
7) Club who have new 3G pitch at own ground to use or Club with no such facility
Shall I go on?
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Post by chirkshrew on Apr 16, 2022 9:35:24 GMT 1
🤔🤔now let me have a think, ah yes---- shrewsbury town fc----- didn't take long👍👍😁😁
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 9:37:48 GMT 1
Which of these would people be envious of? 1) Football League Club with majority of last 13 years being in League 1 or Conference National League Side for 13 years 2) Club who have played in new modern stadium for 13 years or Club who has part of its ground closed due to failing to meet safety standards. 3) Club with no debt for last 13 years or Club who has been financially shambles during that time. 4) Club owed by a local supporter or Club with various Cowboy owners or no connection to the area? 5) Club whose owners own their ground or not owned a ground over last 13 years? 6) Club who own their own training facilities or Club who has had to hire them? 7) Club who have new 3G pitch at own ground to use or Club with no such facility Shall I go on? Point 1 - can’t argue with facts Point 2 - new 5,000 seater stand is going to be ready for 2023/24 season. Google it, really nice Point 3 -R&R bought the club debt-free. Fans’ ownership got some stick from many Wrexham fans, but we were run properly after having been stripped of all assets by unscrupulous owners Point 4 - we have tried every kind of owner out there. I am now of the opinion that I don’t care who owns the club, as long as it’s run for the benefit of the club and community. As I see it, we have that at the moment. If you’re happy to stay up every year, then good, you’re a successful club. Let’s face it, STFC’s main aim is to stay in L1. Somewhere down the line that attitude will bite you. R&R are talking of big investors and the premier league. I know you’re going to disagree, but I prefer the latter Point 5 - www.thenational.wales/business/19912332.wrexham-afc-close-regaining-ownership-racecourse/ Point 6 - building of a new state of the art training complex is about to begin Point 7 - see above |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 9:56:36 GMT 1
🤔🤔now let me have a think, ah yes---- shrewsbury town fc----- didn't take long👍👍😁😁 No, I’d imagine you couldn’t think for very long, Chirk lad. Inhaling all that Kronospan vomit can’t be good for you |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 10:38:56 GMT 1
Assuming that Stockport get the automatic promotion place, then playoff matches between Wrexham, AFC Halifax, Solihull Moors, Chesterfield, Notts County and Grimsby look somewhat challenging! Absolutely. The top half of the NL is a good standard. I still think Stockport are going to drop points, and given our run in, we might just capitalise. Playoffs will be competitive whoever’s in it, with very little to separate the sides. The one thing that gives me hope is our triad of Mullin, Palmer and Davies. Always capable of scoring. If we don’t go up this season, then we’ll strengthen for next season. Only Stockport can say the same. |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 16, 2022 12:06:44 GMT 1
Which of these would people be envious of? 1) Football League Club with majority of last 13 years being in League 1 or Conference National League Side for 13 years 2) Club who have played in new modern stadium for 13 years or Club who has part of its ground closed due to failing to meet safety standards. 3) Club with no debt for last 13 years or Club who has been financially shambles during that time. 4) Club owed by a local supporter or Club with various Cowboy owners or no connection to the area? 5) Club whose owners own their ground or not owned a ground over last 13 years? 6) Club who own their own training facilities or Club who has had to hire them? 7) Club who have new 3G pitch at own ground to use or Club with no such facility Shall I go on? |
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Post by MartinB on Apr 16, 2022 21:09:40 GMT 1
Which of these would people be envious of? 1) Football League Club with majority of last 13 years being in League 1 or Conference National League Side for 13 years 2) Club who have played in new modern stadium for 13 years or Club who has part of its ground closed due to failing to meet safety standards. 3) Club with no debt for last 13 years or Club who has been financially shambles during that time. 4) Club owed by a local supporter or Club with various Cowboy owners or no connection to the area? 5) Club whose owners own their ground or not owned a ground over last 13 years? 6) Club who own their own training facilities or Club who has had to hire them? 7) Club who have new 3G pitch at own ground to use or Club with no such facility Shall I go on? Point 1 - can’t argue with facts Point 2 - new 5,000 seater stand is going to be ready for 2023/24 season. Google it, really nice Point 3 -R&R bought the club debt-free. Fans’ ownership got some stick from many Wrexham fans, but we were run properly after having been stripped of all assets by unscrupulous owners Point 4 - we have tried every kind of owner out there. I am now of the opinion that I don’t care who owns the club, as long as it’s run for the benefit of the club and community. As I see it, we have that at the moment. If you’re happy to stay up every year, then good, you’re a successful club. Let’s face it, STFC’s main aim is to stay in L1. Somewhere down the line that attitude will bite you. R&R are talking of big investors and the premier league. I know you’re going to disagree, but I prefer the latter Point 5 - www.thenational.wales/business/19912332.wrexham-afc-close-regaining-ownership-racecourse/ Point 6 - building of a new state of the art training complex is about to begin Point 7 - see above Silly me, supporting a Club that has all of points 1 to 7 should be jealous of a Club who plans to have them all. Ok, I am off to the Leiceater City messageboard to say they are envious of us because we plan to win the Premier League and the FA Cup. |
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 17, 2022 18:45:03 GMT 1
Martin, it’s ok, in fact humble, to say you have posted an opinion based on ignorance. Accept you know very little about Wrexham except that you hate them.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 17, 2022 19:21:10 GMT 1
1-1 Friday at home to no one, dress rehearsal for blowing the play offs ? ;-)
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Post by doctorproctor on Apr 17, 2022 19:22:01 GMT 1
I accept we’re behind Shrewsbury in a lot of things. Wasn’t so long ago you were playing in a dilapidated ground in front of 3,000. Look at you now. Testament to how a club can move on. We’re now ready to move on. For me, the difference between us and you is we’re aiming far higher.
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