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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 21, 2022 16:38:55 GMT 1
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11035721/RAC-analysis-reveals-drivers-charged-way-wholesale-fuel-prices.html"The great petrol RIP-OFF: RAC analysis reveals drivers are being charged 'way above' wholesale fuel prices by 90% of UK garages amid cost-of-living crisis RAC says average price of petrol is around 14p per litre higher than it should be They believe unleaded should be priced around 174p per litre rather than 188p RAC believe diesel should be 189p per litre, 7p less than current price of 196p Group have accused petrol stations of failing to pass on drop in wholesale prices"
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 22, 2022 14:07:58 GMT 1
on the mount garage facebook wich i could not copy dont know why but this caught my attention;
if every person spent £5 a week in the local shops instead of online or a supermarket chain it would being £13,5 billion pounds going directly into local towns creating local jobs !
i do this already between the mount service station and the market
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Post by Pilch on Jul 27, 2022 10:28:37 GMT 1
mount garage today Attachments:
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Post by martinshrew on Jul 27, 2022 10:34:22 GMT 1
I saw 173.9 at a garage in Wales on Monday, anything over 179.9 is just completely taking the p**s now.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 27, 2022 11:19:06 GMT 1
Asda Donnington still charging 179.7 and 190.7 today. Put £20 in to keep me going till I come across someone selling the stuff at a sensible price.
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Post by wookeywombat on Jul 27, 2022 11:56:26 GMT 1
Has there ever been such a disparity in fuel prices? Travelling down from Scotland yesterday and the day before unleaded ranged from 175.9 to 202.9(Motorway). The supermarkets are the ones taking the p**s. Motorways are always a law unto themselves.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 27, 2022 12:25:55 GMT 1
Huge black mark against Cosford service station. No 0ne can still justify still selling diesel at 199.9 this week. Shocking 🤬
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Post by MetaShrew on Jul 27, 2022 12:52:24 GMT 1
Has there ever been such a disparity in fuel prices? Travelling down from Scotland yesterday and the day before unleaded ranged from 175.9 to 202.9(Motorway). The supermarkets are the ones taking the p**s. Motorways are always a law unto themselves. The perils of a captive audience. |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jul 29, 2022 18:03:07 GMT 1
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Post by Pilch on Jul 29, 2022 18:20:36 GMT 1
damned if they do damned if they don't |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jul 30, 2022 10:22:09 GMT 1
it is saying somthing when i pull into a garage and it is £1.72 a litter and think that is reasonable and then i caught myself thinking what on earth am i saying?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 1, 2022 10:28:57 GMT 1
Apparently those on a motoring holiday on the continent can look forward to fuel 20p to 30p a litre cheaper too.
Those fuel protests the other week did nothing. What we really need is the will to boycott stations selling at over £1.75 for a day or two.
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Post by MetaShrew on Aug 1, 2022 11:13:26 GMT 1
The trouble is that prices above £1.70 have now been normalised. We will never again see prices under, say, £1.50 – whether or not that is all that should be charged.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Aug 2, 2022 7:54:18 GMT 1
BP has reported massive profits for the second quarter of this year, after oil and gas prices soared. The energy giant saw underlying profits hit $8.45bn (£6.9bn) - more than triple the amount it made at the same time last year. The figure is the second highest in the company's history and takes first half profits to $14.6bn. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62382624 |
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Post by davycrockett on Aug 2, 2022 8:25:29 GMT 1
Apparently those on a motoring holiday on the continent can look forward to fuel 20p to 30p a litre cheaper too. Those fuel protests the other week did nothing. What we really need is the will to boycott stations selling at over £1.75 for a day or two. It seems the independents are leading the way with lower prices despite not having the buying power of the big boys… What I can’t understand is the disparity between say Shrewsbury and Telford. I paid £1.94 at Morrisons in Wellington then on the same day saw it at ££1.85 in Asda Shrewsbury. Surely they both pay the same wholesale price so how come ones charging 40p a gallon more? |
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Post by block12massive on Aug 2, 2022 8:57:23 GMT 1
Griffiths Garage in Leintwardine has garnered quite a cult following on social media since it's decision to cut prices - I paid 161.2p for petrol on Thursday.
Problem is it's a relatively small garage so it often runs out at short notice.
But you have to wonder if the little independents can bring the prices down and still make a profit, why can't the supermarkets?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 2, 2022 9:09:25 GMT 1
Griffiths Garage in Leintwardine has garnered quite a cult following on social media since it's decision to cut prices - I paid 161.2p for petrol on Thursday. Problem is it's a relatively small garage so it often runs out at short notice. But you have to wonder if the little independents can bring the prices down and still make a profit, why can't the supermarkets? There is only one reason why the supermarkets 'cant'.......😡 |
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Post by Pilch on Aug 2, 2022 23:01:54 GMT 1
Griffiths Garage in Leintwardine has garnered quite a cult following on social media since it's decision to cut prices - I paid 161.2p for petrol on Thursday. Problem is it's a relatively small garage so it often runs out at short notice. But you have to wonder if the little independents can bring the prices down and still make a profit, why can't the supermarkets? There is only one reason why the supermarkets 'cant'.......😡 as soon as they undercut the little guys by a penny where will you fill up ? and will you stop moaning about fuel prices, do you really care about the little guy or just want the cheapest price ? that is the question I filled up at shawbury last week as they were 5p cheaper than anywhere within miles, great offer and only yards from where my daughter lives, some supermarkets were 1p cheaper than the price I paid last week but I'd had done the same had I known, I certainly did the same when someone else was paying no matter what the price I've filled up at mount garage in my van since October when i changed van, I've filled my car up there twice too |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:15:00 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:33:58 GMT 1
Cant see any of the Shell stations in Telford wanting to be part of this, have always been amongst the highest priced in the area for years now. |
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 8, 2022 12:46:41 GMT 1
Cant see any of the Shell stations in Telford wanting to be part of this, have always been amongst the highest priced in the area for years now. All run by the same franchise as I understand, not sure about the Oakengates one. Have you seen the price they think they can charge the petrolheads of Telford for that Vpower stuff? The extra per litre at Mk Drayton (Nagingtons) was only 8p to 10povr Fuelsave, I used to give some to my car occasionally when I passed through there. |
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Post by kp on Aug 10, 2022 10:52:43 GMT 1
We should all keep in mind that whilst some retailers are clearly trying to increase margins the biggest proportion of the cost of a ltr of petrol or diesel in the UK goes to the Governmnet.
47% of the cost of a ltr of petrol is tax.
45% of the cost of a ltr of diesel is tax.
33% of the cost of a ltr of dielsel/Petrol is the wholesale cost. What sort of profit margins are the oil producing comapnies making?
Retailer margins are around 10-15% depending on if they are a 'rip off' merchant or not. (Note I suspect Tuffins do very nicely out of the 24hr pumps in Welshpool).
The rest is made up of 'Bio Content' and distribution costs.
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 10:55:12 GMT 1
We should all keep in mind that whilst some retailers are clearly trying to increase margins the biggest proportion of the cost of a ltr of petrol or diesel in the UK goes to the Governmnet. 47% of the cost of a ltr of petrol is tax. 45% of the cost of a ltr of diesel is tax. 33% of the cost of a ltr of dielsel/Petrol is the wholesale cost. What sort of profit margins are the oil producing comapnies making? Retailer margins are around 10-15% depending on if they are a 'rip off' merchant or not. The rest is made up of 'Bio Content' and distribution costs. And, with all those taxes being a %, guess who makes more when the price goes up! |
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Post by salop27 on Aug 10, 2022 11:55:33 GMT 1
Cheapest and most convenient near me are the two Esso petrol stations in St Martins. Both are around 10p to 15p cheaper a litre then Morrisons in Oswestry, where you'd think it might be cheaper.
Yes there's a lot of tax on fuel and while it was lower in price it wasn't such a big issue. So is the time to abolish it now? It would certainly help the cost of living. However how would we replace the tax income? So called windfall taxes will be used to further cover the increase in energy cost so that would leave an increase in basic taxation rates?
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Post by staffordshrew on Aug 10, 2022 12:41:14 GMT 1
Cheapest and most convenient near me are the two Esso petrol stations in St Martins. Both are around 10p to 15p cheaper a litre then Morrisons in Oswestry, where you'd think it might be cheaper. Yes there's a lot of tax on fuel and while it was lower in price it wasn't such a big issue. So is the time to abolish it now? It would certainly help the cost of living. However how would we replace the tax income? So called windfall taxes will be used to further cover the increase in energy cost so that would leave an increase in basic taxation rates? Customer inertia? Do the supermarket shop, then call for petrol without thinking? Supermarkets often rely on that. When I had to do big shops for the wider family at Morrisons, I got the impression that something would go on offer, then, if I was asked to get some more the next week it would still be on offer, but not quite as low. At Tesco the offers would be similar, but a few pence dearer than those at other supermarkets.
After the retailers holding back on passing on the last cut in duty I would just push any tax reductions straight onto utility bills - easier to regulate that the savings are passed on and it benefits everyone on a product that cannot be cut down on much.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 10, 2022 16:29:00 GMT 1
Asda Donnington 173.7 currently.
Esso Halesfield 168.9
Even the long tome rip off Shell stations are 172.9 round Telford.
Normally go to Asda as they are my most local and usually cheapest but they can kiss my donkey till they start playing ball. I'm off to Halesfield to fill up in a bit.
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Post by martinshrew on Aug 10, 2022 16:31:24 GMT 1
Asda Donnington 173.7 currently. Esso Halesfield 168.9 Even the long tome rip off Shell stations are 172.9 round Telford. Normally go to Asda as they are my most local and usually cheapest but they can kiss my donkey till they start playing ball. I'm off to Halesfield to fill up in a bit. Asda Shrewsbury is 169.7 |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 10, 2022 16:39:02 GMT 1
Asda Donnington 173.7 currently. Esso Halesfield 168.9 Even the long tome rip off Shell stations are 172.9 round Telford. Normally go to Asda as they are my most local and usually cheapest but they can kiss my donkey till they start playing ball. I'm off to Halesfield to fill up in a bit. Asda Shrewsbury is 169.7 Sure Telford will come down eventually. Just I need to fill up today so not quick enough for me, fuel is fuel from wherever it come from so cheapest it is. |
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Post by zenfootball2 on Aug 10, 2022 16:56:47 GMT 1
Cheapest and most convenient near me are the two Esso petrol stations in St Martins. Both are around 10p to 15p cheaper a litre then Morrisons in Oswestry, where you'd think it might be cheaper. Yes there's a lot of tax on fuel and while it was lower in price it wasn't such a big issue. So is the time to abolish it now? It would certainly help the cost of living. However how would we replace the tax income? So called windfall taxes will be used to further cover the increase in energy cost so that would leave an increase in basic taxation rates? before the long as more people purchase electric cars, you will get taxed on the miles you drive many moterways already have average speed camers . |
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Aug 10, 2022 17:18:44 GMT 1
Cheapest and most convenient near me are the two Esso petrol stations in St Martins. Both are around 10p to 15p cheaper a litre then Morrisons in Oswestry, where you'd think it might be cheaper. Yes there's a lot of tax on fuel and while it was lower in price it wasn't such a big issue. So is the time to abolish it now? It would certainly help the cost of living. However how would we replace the tax income? So called windfall taxes will be used to further cover the increase in energy cost so that would leave an increase in basic taxation rates? before the long as more people purchase electric cars, you will get taxed on the miles you drive many moterways already have average speed camers . Sure you are right, but how are they going to sort that on rural roads and country lanes? |
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