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Post by Pilch on Jun 23, 2021 15:59:48 GMT 1
imagine how much safer the country would be, if we all carried ID, had our DNA collected and cctv covered everywhere some people however still want the option to attempt a crime and get away with it ;-) Sounds like you’d be happy in North Korea. can you explain why I'd be happy in North Korea ? I mean I've never been there and know little about it I mean I could say it sounds like you'd be happy in Venuezela , I've never been there either but I hear its the most lawless country in the world
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Post by Pilch on Jun 23, 2021 16:08:24 GMT 1
Have people seen the changes to pay at pump payments recently brought in by Sainsburys and Tesco? Just reading this and it is utter insanity. Figure the poor sod who has £100 in their account. Pays a tenner for fuel. Has the 'pre authorisation check' hold £100, trundles off to buy food from said supermarket only to have their card declined. Utter madness. sounds to me like not thought through properly teething problems, all it needs is for software to enquire how much fuel you actually want and then limit the pump/charges to that amount. ( those my age and older will remember certain garages where this happened decades ago, well with the aim of a pump attendant
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 29, 2021 21:19:26 GMT 1
2 more reasons why cash will still be with us for some time yet.
1 - Went to seaside again at the weekend. Mrs Grizzly, who is much more cashless than me has downloaded an app which allows you to pay for parking by card. This is the 3rd time we have used it and by some chance checked the rate on the ticket machine, only to find we had paid more than the stated rate. Further checking the app charges a fee each time you use it.... F**k sake, my 2 biggest annoyances in 1 hit (paying to use a car park, when I'm only there to spend money in the local economy AND being charged for that privelidge of parking too).
Needless to say the app has been deleted and we are back to my way of doing it, carrying a small bag on change in the car.
Grizzly?? I'll say I f'king was....
2 - While there we went into a nice pub and had an excellent meal. Upon production of the bill without cash there wasnt an option to tip the waitress, just to add something to the bill which doubtless will only go to the pub itself and not the no doubt underpaid staff.
Back to carrying cash me me for sure.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jun 29, 2021 21:27:58 GMT 1
I still use cash a lot of the time. Can’t remember using my card much apart from the main food shop and petrol really. Cash is part of our lives and although time and technology moves on I still can’t imagine us without it.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 30, 2021 13:04:24 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only.
It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2021 16:26:03 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip.
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Post by Valerioch on Jun 30, 2021 16:31:28 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. Out of interest, why? Personally speaking can’t remember when I last used cash. Smelly and dirty. Contactless or card the whole way
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 30, 2021 16:34:43 GMT 1
And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. Out of interest, why? Personally speaking can’t remember when I last used cash. Smelly and dirty. Contactless or card the whole way I might not go quite that far but I'm of a similar thinking. Insisting on not taking cash is making some folk consider where they shop. Wont be a problem for a toll bridge but I cant see any shops becoming 'cashless'any time soon (assuming they want to be around for any length of time of course).
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 30, 2021 16:43:05 GMT 1
I’ve got so used to being cashless that I offered my debit card in payment for a first class stamp. The shopkeeper asked for cash, he said he made 1p profit on a stamp and the card company charged more to process the transaction.
Most of my local shops ask for card payment as they don’t want to handle money which may be tainted by the virus. That’s understandable but I found it much easier to budget with cash than having theoretically unlimited funds on my card.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jun 30, 2021 16:49:44 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. You must be the one of those individuals causing huge tailbacks as they fish about the deepest depths of their coat pockets for that last 10p coin
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2021 17:11:50 GMT 1
And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. Out of interest, why? Personally speaking can’t remember when I last used cash. Smelly and dirty. Contactless or card the whole way The fact you either have to plan your trip in advance by buying a ticket online, or you have the inconvenience of having to contact them by midnight the following day to pay, otherwise a penalty charge notice will be in the post.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2021 17:16:01 GMT 1
And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. You must be the one of those individuals causing huge tailbacks as they fish about the deepest depths of their coat pockets for that last 10p coin No, but I hate being in supermarket queues when some little old lady is emptying out her purse to locate the exact amount in coins, probably producing some coupons as well. Dave Allen did a brilliant sketch on supermarkets.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2021 17:22:51 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. And as I think I've already mentioned elsewhere, I'd never cross either of the Runcorn bridges because they don't take cash. I assume they've also made the old bridge cashless too. If I ever have to get to Merseyside, I'd rather detour via the M62, even though it would lengthen my trip. I sympathise, although it would cost you more to get to Merseyside via the M62 of course. Neither of the "Mersey Gateway" bridges take cash - or any other form of payment. You have to go online in advance or by midnight the day after you crossed and pay there, or there's a penalty charge. Another £4 and an extra chore if I want to go to watch Widnes. Some people must think this is progress.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2021 17:23:42 GMT 1
Out of interest, why? Personally speaking can’t remember when I last used cash. Smelly and dirty. Contactless or card the whole way The fact you either have to plan your trip in advance by buying a ticket online, or you have the inconvenience of having to contact them by midnight the following day to pay, otherwise a penalty charge notice will be in the post. Ah, you knew that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 17:24:33 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. Penmaenpool. Gosh, it's been a few years since I've been over that bridge. It's a good shortcut from Tywyn to Barmouth.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 17:27:10 GMT 1
There also used to be a toll to go across the Cob at Porthmadog but I think that's long gone 😊
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 30, 2021 17:28:39 GMT 1
Out of interest, why? Personally speaking can’t remember when I last used cash. Smelly and dirty. Contactless or card the whole way The fact you either have to plan your trip in advance by buying a ticket online, or you have the inconvenience of having to contact them by midnight the following day to pay, otherwise a penalty charge notice will be in the post. Or how about The Mersey Flow app? Simple and secure you’ll never miss another toll www.merseyflow.co.uk/how-to-pay-for-a-crossing
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 30, 2021 17:31:43 GMT 1
There also used to be a toll to go across the Cob at Porthmadog but I think that's long gone 😊 Yes been hone many years now. Didnt help the traffic flow get any better due to having to drive through Porthmadoc straight after. The new by pass would make any toll charge redundant nowadays.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2021 17:33:19 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. Dolgellau to Barmouth would be an interesting bridge! I take it you mean the Fairbourne - Barmouth rail & foot bridge. Is the toll still there? I think it was voluntary when I was on it in April but the little toll booth remains. There used to be a couple of other toll bridges in that area. There was the 50p toll for the single lane bridge at Llandecwyn, connecting Harlech to Porthmadog, now replaced by the new two way bridge. Then there was the 10p toll to cross the Cob into Porthmadog itself, thankfully now widened. I don't miss those but I'm glad the toll remains for the wooden bridge across the Mawddach at Penmaenpool, next to the George III Inn. Think that was 50p last time I used it.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 30, 2021 17:34:00 GMT 1
A couple of family members use the toll bridge at Warburton to cross the Manchester Ship Canal to and from work. It’s 12p each way, cash only. It reminded me about the Kingsland bridge, an old penny per crossing when I was a lad. An the toll bridge between Dolgellau and Barmouth which we used every summer for holidays in Fairbourne. Penmaenpool. Gosh, it's been a few years since I've been over that bridge. It's a good shortcut from Tywyn to Barmouth. Went over it a few weeks ago. Still cash, all the "ahem, problems" easily sorted, they have a small fishing type net to put the cash into. Cash is only a problem if you want it to be.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2021 17:34:30 GMT 1
The fact you either have to plan your trip in advance by buying a ticket online, or you have the inconvenience of having to contact them by midnight the following day to pay, otherwise a penalty charge notice will be in the post. Or how about The Mersey Flow app? Simple and secure you’ll never miss another toll www.merseyflow.co.uk/how-to-pay-for-a-crossingMy bog standard Nokia doesn't take apps. Not much else either other than voicemail and texts.
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Post by davycrockett on Jun 30, 2021 17:36:11 GMT 1
There also used to be a toll to go across the Cob at Porthmadog but I think that's long gone 😊 Queues were a nightmare at weekends but you don’t need to go that way now with the new road from Penryndduereth …. The Pont Briwet from the afore mentioned place to Llandecwyn is a great shortcut to Harlech used to be a toll but not sure now
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2021 17:37:02 GMT 1
There also used to be a toll to go across the Cob at Porthmadog but I think that's long gone 😊 Ha, just posted on that! Yes, thankfully they widened the Cob some years back - it was always a bit of a hairy drive when a coach or lorry appeared coming towards you. I think the toll actually helped regulate the traffic flow into the dreadful Porthmadog bottleneck. Once they built the bypass and relieved the town's traffic, having to stop for the toll would just have been a bit of a nuisance. The little toll house remains - not sure what else it could ever be used for.
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Post by venceremos on Jun 30, 2021 17:39:50 GMT 1
There also used to be a toll to go across the Cob at Porthmadog but I think that's long gone 😊 Queues were a nightmare at weekends but you don’t need to go that way now with the new road from Penryndduereth …. The Pont Briwet from the afore mentioned place to Llandecwyn is a great shortcut to Harlech used to be a toll but not sure now Penrhyndeudraeth - and yes, I had to look up the spelling! As I posted just now, Llandecwyn's a proper road bridge now, no toll.
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Post by northwestman on Jun 30, 2021 17:41:01 GMT 1
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 30, 2021 17:42:19 GMT 1
The fact you either have to plan your trip in advance by buying a ticket online, or you have the inconvenience of having to contact them by midnight the following day to pay, otherwise a penalty charge notice will be in the post. Or how about The Mersey Flow app? Simple and secure you’ll never miss another toll www.merseyflow.co.uk/how-to-pay-for-a-crossingStill a huge problem to a significant number of people. All this reminds me of when banks were going to stop accepting cheques - they finally realised it was going to be huge problem for many that they backed down and found an easy alternative to the " erm problem I think they called it". In my business I still take about 1/3 of my payments by cheque and I'm quite happy to deal with the customer and let them pay how they want to. It really isnt an inconvenience to me, I pay them in via my phone in an evening and funds are in my account 2 days later. (I also take about 1/3 in cash and the other 1/3 in bank transfers for those that are happy to pay that way). It's actually about keeping the customer happy that is important to me - something long forgotten in the world of payments for lots of businesses.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Jun 30, 2021 19:01:09 GMT 1
One of the enjoyable things about a message board is how a casual remark can turn into an interesting discussion. In reply to Venceremos I was referring to the bridge at Penmaenpool which I now remember was bought by a family that lived near us in Timperley. We had a surprise when crossing it to see our neighbour collecting the toll! This would be 20+ years ago. I loved the rail bridge at Barmouth and used to spend a lot of time as a boy during our family holidays watching steam trains crossing it and chugging up the perilous cliff side line towards Tywyn. Later when I was taking my own family there and training for marathons I used to run across it and follow the old railway trackbed to Barmouth and back. A beautiful route.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jun 30, 2021 19:54:20 GMT 1
Interesting small article in this weeks Telford Journal (possibly the Chronicle etc as well) about the fors and against of a cashless society.
Lots of positive and negative thoughts, possibly the one that caught my eye the most is "only one in four (26%) people would see a move towards a cashless society as positive, while one in three (34%) view it as negative."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2021 20:12:21 GMT 1
One of the enjoyable things about a message board is how a casual remark can turn into an interesting discussion. In reply to Venceremos I was referring to the bridge at Penmaenpool which I now remember was bought by a family that lived near us in Timperley. We had a surprise when crossing it to see our neighbour collecting the toll! This would be 20+ years ago. I loved the rail bridge at Barmouth and used to spend a lot of time as a boy during our family holidays watching steam trains crossing it and chugging up the perilous cliff side line towards Tywyn. Later when I was taking my own family there and training for marathons I used to run across it and follow the old railway trackbed to Barmouth and back. A beautiful route. Last time I was in Barmouth was in October 2017 for the 150 years celebration of the opening of the bridge. We left the car at Barmouth junction and walked into Barmouth over the bridge. Glad we did because it was absolutely heaving down by the harbour.
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Post by pughywasfree on Jun 30, 2021 21:15:26 GMT 1
Interesting small article in this weeks Telford Journal (possibly the Chronicle etc as well) about the fors and against of a cashless society. Lots of positive and negative thoughts, possibly the one that caught my eye the most is "only one in four (26%) people would see a move towards a cashless society as positive, while one in three (34%) view it as negative." The propaganda hasn't fully been directed against using cash yet, too busy scaring people about a glorified cold. It will come eventually.
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