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Post by armchairfan on Mar 6, 2021 18:53:40 GMT 1
We've had an absolutely brilliant run since November all in all and so a few poor results now thankfully are not a disaster. Three points on Tuesday will put things back on track. Always good to see a "glass-half-full comment. đđ
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 18:59:29 GMT 1
They just remind people now and again thinking of play offs is folly. Yes we did well against top teams, but were at the stage now where the bottom teams are scraping as hard as we did in November.... JFH has got Burton looking good!!
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Post by Mark_Blakes_sling on Mar 6, 2021 19:02:41 GMT 1
I can't see us winning a game anytime soon after that performance.this reminds to much of the SR.era I cant remember many SR games as bad as todays Shrewsbury 0-3 Charlton Shrewsbury 0-3 Luton Shrewsbury 0-0 Walsall - already safe and we took it to the corners to hold out for a 0-0 at home in a local derby Doncaster 2-0 Shrewsbury Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury
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Post by shrewswolf on Mar 6, 2021 19:05:55 GMT 1
Thereâs no sugar coating that, a no show at the end of a very very poor week. From an uncharacteristic four goals against MK to three consecutive matches with barely a sniff of a chance.
It was as boring as anything endured under Ricketts and the lack of energy is probably the most concerning. Itâs that kind of thing thatâll have us dragged into something we have done so well to get clear of.
Tuesday feels big. It probably isnât, but it does feel like it.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 19:24:09 GMT 1
I cant remember many SR games as bad as todays Shrewsbury 0-3 Charlton Shrewsbury 0-3 Luton Shrewsbury 0-0 Walsall - already safe and we took it to the corners to hold out for a 0-0 at home in a local derby Doncaster 2-0 Shrewsbury Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury you've compared todays defeat with an end of season dead rubber that we drew, hmmm, thats how good we were today yes the Fleetwood 3-0 was a bad day, if I remember right we played like Brazil for half an hour and then gifted them an own goal, had 2 shots on target against us and somehow lost 3-0 Charlton was a game where ricketts stood up after the game and said he'd made a mistake and they scored 3 goals in 10 minutes in the opening half hour, and he changed the formation but far too late to save the day, we only managed 7 shots on target that day too, horror show doncaster, yes, that was on a par with today for sure , a game that has been used as a benchmark for so long liverpool, oh dear, get over it, fa cup , away to the world champions, 52000, they had gone to town on preparing for the game, we got stagefright, and were robbed of a good goal add these to your list, they are a little more relevant, and recent town 0 crewe 1. feb accy 1 town 1. feb Bristol r 2 town feb town 1 Wimbledon 1 mar town 0 Fleetwood 2 mar anyway, lets move on, iwho do you fancy in the play offs ?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 6, 2021 20:02:03 GMT 1
when SC took over we suddenly had more pace, we closed teams down, we pressed them in all areas of the pitch,we were wining the lose ball and recyling the ball well. the last three games all of that whent out the window and today the whole team looked to be just going through the motions.
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Post by Mark_Blakes_sling on Mar 6, 2021 20:08:57 GMT 1
Shrewsbury 0-3 Charlton Shrewsbury 0-3 Luton Shrewsbury 0-0 Walsall - already safe and we took it to the corners to hold out for a 0-0 at home in a local derby Doncaster 2-0 Shrewsbury Liverpool 1-0 Shrewsbury you've compared todays defeat with an end of season dead rubber that we drew,  hmmm, thats how good we were today yes the Fleetwood 3-0 was a bad day,  if I remember right we played like Brazil for half an hour and then gifted them an own goal,  had 2 shots on target against us and somehow lost 3-0 Charlton was a game where ricketts stood up after the game and said he'd made a mistake and they scored 3 goals in 10 minutes in the opening half hour, and he changed the formation but far too late to save the day,  we only managed 7 shots on target that day too, horror show doncaster,  yes, that was on a par with today for sure , a game that has been used as a benchmark for so long liverpool,  oh dear,  get over it,  fa cup , away to the world champions, 52000,  they had gone to town on preparing for the game,  we got stagefright,  and were robbed of a good goal add these to your list,  they are a little more relevant, and recent town 0 crewe 1. feb accy 1 town 1. feb Bristol r 2 town  feb town 1 Wimbledon 1 mar town 0 Fleetwood 2 mar anyway, lets move on,  iwho do you fancy in the play offs ? The statement you made was âgames as bad as todayâ The Walsall game was bad. We took it to the corners in a game at home against a worse local rival when we were already safe. In my opinion thatâs bad, if you donât agree, thatâs absolutely fine. The Liverpool game at Anfield was bad. I donât need to âget over itâ. It was just a bad game. The Doncaster game was awful. Not used as a benchmark by me. Just a bad game. I never listed the 0-3 Fleetwood game so donât know why you brought that up. The reply was to a post talking about bad games, which is in itself subjective. Iâm not looking to argue about how good Sam Ricketts was as manager, Iâve never posted on that subject. Iâm quite sure there have been performances equally as bad as today under every manager weâve had, thatâs the nature of lower league football.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 6, 2021 20:14:27 GMT 1
Ten points above Rochdale, who are bottom. That could start to look tight if we lose there on Tuesday, as we usually do.
Yes, we have games in hand, but 1 point from the last 3 games tells us they might not be as valuable as weâd like to believe. Need to improve a lot, and quickly.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 20:23:17 GMT 1
when SC took over we suddenly had more pace, we closed teams down, we pressed them in all areas of the pitch,we were wining the lose ball and recyling the ball well. the last three games all of that whent out the window and today the whole team looked to be just going through the motions. how many times have we dominated and never looked like losing ?
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Post by alfwoodlive on Mar 6, 2021 20:31:52 GMT 1
Horrible watch, a shadow of recent performances, hard to believe it's the same team! Not many positives to pick out of that game, the standard of passing was abysmal, especially from defence. The only guy to take any credit was Main, he has decent control, can hold the ball and links the play, the rest just didn't turn up. But that's Town, things can only get better, looking for a reaction v RochdaleâŚâŚâŚ.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 20:41:54 GMT 1
you've compared todays defeat with an end of season dead rubber that we drew, hmmm, thats how good we were today yes the Fleetwood 3-0 was a bad day, if I remember right we played like Brazil for half an hour and then gifted them an own goal, had 2 shots on target against us and somehow lost 3-0 Charlton was a game where ricketts stood up after the game and said he'd made a mistake and they scored 3 goals in 10 minutes in the opening half hour, and he changed the formation but far too late to save the day, we only managed 7 shots on target that day too, horror show doncaster, yes, that was on a par with today for sure , a game that has been used as a benchmark for so long liverpool, oh dear, get over it, fa cup , away to the world champions, 52000, they had gone to town on preparing for the game, we got stagefright, and were robbed of a good goal add these to your list, they are a little more relevant, and recent town 0 crewe 1. feb accy 1 town 1. feb Bristol r 2 town feb town 1 Wimbledon 1 mar town 0 Fleetwood 2 mar anyway, lets move on, iwho do you fancy in the play offs ? The statement you made was âgames as bad as todayâ The Walsall game was bad. We took it to the corners in a game at home against a worse local rival when we were already safe. In my opinion thatâs bad, if you donât agree, thatâs absolutely fine. The Liverpool game at Anfield was bad. I donât need to âget over itâ. It was just a bad game. The Doncaster game was awful. Not used as a benchmark by me. Just a bad game. I never listed the 0-3 Fleetwood game so donât know why you brought that up. The reply was to a post talking about bad games, which is in itself subjective. Iâm not looking to argue about how good Sam Ricketts was as manager, Iâve never posted on that subject. Iâm quite sure there have been performances equally as bad as today under every manager weâve had, thatâs the nature of lower league football. I just looked up the walsall game, we had 53% possession, 4 shots on target and 10 corners, already safe and yet they needed to win for a chance of staying up, are we the first ever side to see out the end of a long hard season by going through the motions instead of busting a gut ? I mean come on remember the torquay 2nd leg play off game ? , we didnt even try remember the Wimbledon away game, they made us look silly, I was there also remember staying over in swindon for another no show end of season flop didnt we celebration promotion in style once with a home defeat to Plymouth even hurst rounded off the season with a home defeat to a relegated club 0-0 v walsall ?
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Post by chirkshrew on Mar 6, 2021 20:48:26 GMT 1
Ah well, we'd better get SR back then!!!đđđĽąđĽą
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 21:04:12 GMT 1
Ah well, we'd better get SR back then!!!đđđĽąđĽą yeah, get him back, we need someone to blame when we lose
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 6, 2021 21:13:24 GMT 1
If you're choosing today, with the club's manager having been readmitted to hospital with complications from coronavirus and most of the squad probably struggling with post viral fatigue, to have a whinge over performances you need your head examining.
We had a wonderful turnaround under Cotterill which sadly got derailed around Christmas. Would have been fantastic to see the club carry on the charge but the damage was already done by the previous boss and, given the circumstances, playoffs would have been a miracle.
Given everything that's happened this year (including an appalling personal tragedy unrelated go the virus) if a few of the players look a bit like they're going through the motions to get this weird, farce of a season over with it's probably because they are.
The key aim now is getting the manager out of danger, stringing a few more wins together to get us to safety and looking forward to next season, hopefully in front of a packed meadow every other week.
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Post by Valerioch on Mar 6, 2021 21:19:30 GMT 1
Woeful today and the last few games. We need a win to halt the slump asap
Thank god SC and co overachieved so much in the last 3 months
What an abject hand Ricketts left us with
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 21:23:34 GMT 1
If you're choosing today, with the club's manager having been readmitted to hospital with complications from coronavirus and most of the squad probably struggling with post viral fatigue, to have a whinge over performances you need your head examining. We had a wonderful turnaround under Cotterill which sadly got derailed around Christmas. Would have been fantastic to see the club carry on the charge but the damage was already done by the previous boss and, given the circumstances, playoffs would have been a miracle. Given everything that's happened this year (including an appalling personal tragedy unrelated go the virus) if a few of the players look a bit like they're going through the motions to get this weird, farce of a season over with it's probably because they are. The key aim now is getting the manager out of danger, stringing a few more wins together to get us to safety and looking forward to next season, hopefully in front of a packed meadow every other week. Im not having a go at Cotterill in the slightest, I dont blame him one bit, I want him back as much as you do I've been questioning the credit he's been given for the last couple of months suggesting AW might deserve most of it and yes I totally forgot we are not allowed to moan anymore , we only praise after wins
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Post by frankwellshrews on Mar 6, 2021 21:34:54 GMT 1
I can't see us winning a game anytime soon after that performance.this reminds to much of the SR.era I cant remember many SR games as bad as todays You really think it's appropriate to be posting snarky comments like that with a little emoji under the circumstances? Just in case it's not been made clear enough, the club's manager is currently battling viral pneumonia in hospital. The stats are not good for people in that age bracket re-entering hospital with vivid complications. We've had to work through a severe fixture backlog with a virus fatigued squad of players, now this. Aside from the obvious disruption, professional and natural human concern for a colleague, there are also people like Aaron Wilbraham for whom the manager is a close friend. You cannot possibly compare the circumstances of today's fixture with any time during ricketts' reign, in fact any time in the club's recent history. Go and pour yourself a Japanese red malt and have a night off "fishing", you've gone from merely annoying to actively in poor taste.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 21:45:36 GMT 1
I cant remember many SR games as bad as todays You really think it's appropriate to be posting snarky comments like that with a little emoji under the circumstances? Just in case it's not been made clear enough, the club's manager is currently battling viral pneumonia in hospital. The stats are not good for people in that age bracket re-entering hospital with vivid complications. We've had to work through a severe fixture backlog with a virus fatigued squad of players, now this. Aside from the obvious disruption, professional and natural human concern for a colleague, there are also people like Aaron Wilbraham for whom the manager is a close friend. You cannot possibly compare the circumstances of today's fixture with any time during ricketts' reign, in fact any time in the club's recent history. Go and pour yourself a Japanese red malt and have a night off "fishing", you've gone from merely annoying to actively in poor taste. Trying a bunnahabhain tonight , itâs good my post was in reply to a sarky comment if you check back And then someone else picked it up and ran with it your arrival is just a pathetic attempt to take it out of all context make a headline out of it and mock what I get up to in private Youâve done it before , youâll do it again , I kind of expect it from you now , have a nice day
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Post by randomtictacs on Mar 6, 2021 21:46:39 GMT 1
Having passed out with shock after tuning in to the radio a couple of weeks ago to find Town 3-0 up after 20 mins.
Did I miss anything ?
Are we still 17th ?
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Post by wakemanender on Mar 6, 2021 22:10:22 GMT 1
Thought Williams was a top signing when he came to us and expected him to go onto better things after a short time with us but he will be very lucky to earn another contract. His passing today was very poor and he was responsible for both Fleetwood goals with very weak defending. As for Chapman. Very poor response to being taken off after doing very little all match. Gave us an insight today why he is not getting into Blackburns team. Dont think SC will stand for tantrams.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 22:32:13 GMT 1
Having passed out with shock after tuning in to the radio a couple of weeks ago to find Town 3-0 up after 20 mins. Did I miss anything ? Are we still 17th ? yeah, we've not had a penalty or 2 since
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Post by DiglisShrew on Mar 6, 2021 22:38:02 GMT 1
If you're choosing today, with the club's manager having been readmitted to hospital with complications from coronavirus and most of the squad probably struggling with post viral fatigue, to have a whinge over performances you need your head examining. We had a wonderful turnaround under Cotterill which sadly got derailed around Christmas. Would have been fantastic to see the club carry on the charge but the damage was already done by the previous boss and, given the circumstances, playoffs would have been a miracle. Given everything that's happened this year (including an appalling personal tragedy unrelated go the virus) if a few of the players look a bit like they're going through the motions to get this weird, farce of a season over with it's probably because they are. The key aim now is getting the manager out of danger, stringing a few more wins together to get us to safety and looking forward to next season, hopefully in front of a packed meadow every other week. Im not having a go at Cotterill in the slightest, I dont blame him one bit, I want him back as much as you do I've been questioning the credit he's been given for the last couple of months suggesting AW might deserve most of it and yes I totally forgot we are not allowed to moan anymore , we only praise after wins I repeat: Is it time we we started a new board on here titled âPilchâs Spats with (insert name here) re (insert topic here) â It would certainly shorten some of the threads on the regular board and give us a better idea of which threads we can ignore !! Alternatively can we make âRickettsâ a banned word so that no-one can criticise him so that Pilch doesnât have to defend him !!
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Post by harboroughshrew on Mar 6, 2021 22:40:10 GMT 1
I remember AW saying a while ago how SC demands high standards in training all the time when he is there and we do seem to have dropped off from where we were a few weeks ago. Complacency should not be an issue as many of these players are playing for a new contract next year. Let's get back to doing the basics like closing down and better passing against Rochdale and we should be OK on Tuesday. The fact we have not won there for ages is irrelevant - their home record this season is poor and if the good Town turn up we can win and lighten the mood a bit.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 22:46:17 GMT 1
Im not having a go at Cotterill in the slightest, I dont blame him one bit, I want him back as much as you do I've been questioning the credit he's been given for the last couple of months suggesting AW might deserve most of it and yes I totally forgot we are not allowed to moan anymore , we only praise after wins I repeat: Is it time we we started a new board on here titled âPilchâs Spats with (insert name here) re (insert topic here) â It would certainly shorten some of the threads on the regular board and give us a better idea of which threads we can ignore !! Alternatively can we make âRickettsâ a banned word so that no-one can criticise him so that Pilch doesnât have to defend him !! just to repeat someone said today reminded them of ricketts ( someone had to mention him, I mean if we won or lost they always do) I said was today worse than any ricketts games ? apparently walsall 0-0 was I dared to suggest I remembered worse season finales
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Post by Mark_Blakes_sling on Mar 6, 2021 22:54:03 GMT 1
The statement you made was âgames as bad as todayâ The Walsall game was bad. We took it to the corners in a game at home against a worse local rival when we were already safe. In my opinion thatâs bad, if you donât agree, thatâs absolutely fine. The Liverpool game at Anfield was bad. I donât need to âget over itâ. It was just a bad game. The Doncaster game was awful. Not used as a benchmark by me. Just a bad game. I never listed the 0-3 Fleetwood game so donât know why you brought that up. The reply was to a post talking about bad games, which is in itself subjective. Iâm not looking to argue about how good Sam Ricketts was as manager, Iâve never posted on that subject. Iâm quite sure there have been performances equally as bad as today under every manager weâve had, thatâs the nature of lower league football. I just looked up the walsall game, we had 53% possession, 4 shots on target and 10 corners, already safe and yet they needed to win for a chance of staying up, are we the first ever side to see out the end of a long hard season by going through the motions instead of busting a gut ? I mean come on remember the torquay 2nd leg play off game ? , we didnt even try remember the Wimbledon away game, they made us look silly, I was there also remember staying over in swindon for another no show end of season flop didnt we celebration promotion in style once with a home defeat to Plymouth even hurst rounded off the season with a home defeat to a relegated club 0-0 v walsall ? As I said before it's subjective. I don't need to look at match stats to know how disappointed I felt walking out of the meadow after watching a team that was safe try and hold the ball in the corners against a team that was below them, giving the appearance of hanging on for a draw that was irrelevant to us. I was equally disappointed with the performance today. In my opinion that Walsall game was a bad game. Obviously you feel different, and incidentally, that is fine too, I respect your opinion on that. Your original post was about bad games under Sam Ricketts. If the post had been about bad games under any other manager I could have listed just as many (at least!) as that is the nature of lower league teams, it happens often. One of the problems with communicating this way is the tone is lost, and I appear to have struck a nerve, which wasn't my intention, it was just an a reply as you said you 'couldn't remember many SR games as bad as todays', wasn't intended as a pop at all. I can remember. Just like I can remember bad days under Askey, Hurst, Mellon, Jackson, Turner, Simpson, Peters, Quinn, Ratcliffe, King, Davies, Bond etc etc. I can also remember good days under all those managers too. It's the nature of lower league football, and actually what makes the good days so good is experiencing days like this bad one!
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Post by Pilch on Mar 6, 2021 23:01:45 GMT 1
I just looked up the walsall game,  we had 53% possession,  4 shots on target and 10 corners,  already safe and yet they needed to win for a chance of staying up,  are we the first ever side to see out the end of a long hard season by going through the motions instead of busting a gut ?  I mean come on remember the torquay 2nd leg play off game ? , we didnt even try remember the Wimbledon away game,  they made us look silly, I was there also remember staying over in swindon for another no show end of season flop didnt  we celebration promotion in style once with a home defeat to Plymouth even hurst rounded off the season with a home defeat to a relegated club 0-0 v walsall  ? As I said before it's subjective. I don't need to look at match stats to know how disappointed I felt walking out of the meadow after watching a team that was safe try and hold the ball in the corners against a team that was below them, giving the appearance of hanging on for a draw that was irrelevant to us. I was equally disappointed with the performance today. In my opinion that Walsall game was a bad game. Obviously you feel different, and incidentally, that is fine too, I respect your opinion on that. Your original post was about bad games under Sam Ricketts. If the post had been about bad games under any other manager I could have listed just as many (at least!) as that is the nature of lower league teams, it happens often. One of the problems with communicating this way is the tone is lost, and I appear to have struck a nerve, which wasn't my intention, it was just an a reply as you said you 'couldn't remember many SR games as bad as todays', wasn't intended as a pop at all. I can remember. Just like I can remember bad days under Askey, Hurst, Mellon, Jackson, Turner, Simpson, Peters, Quinn, Ratcliffe, King, Davies, Bond etc etc. I can also remember good days under all those managers too. It's the nature of lower league football, and actually what makes the good days so good is experiencing days like this bad one! The only nerve you struck was not knowing my dad is gravely Iâll and I can snap at something silly , not your fault đ
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Post by belfastshrew on Mar 7, 2021 1:37:18 GMT 1
Today reminded me of Ricketts.
Season over now, players going through the motions. We love you 17th. I recall bookies had us as decent favourites to be relegated?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Mar 7, 2021 9:44:05 GMT 1
Today reminded me of Ricketts. Season over now, players going through the motions. We love you 17th. I recall bookies had us as decent favourites to be relegated? The bookies arent mugs, they knew we had Rucketts as manager đ
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Post by Pilch on Mar 7, 2021 13:52:12 GMT 1
Today reminded me of Ricketts. Season over now, players going through the motions. We love you 17th. I recall bookies had us as decent favourites to be relegated? The bookies arent mugs, they knew we had Rucketts as manager đ the bookies currently have 5 clubs odds on to go down town are 28/1 by the way
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Post by Pilch on Mar 7, 2021 13:55:06 GMT 1
Today reminded me of Ricketts. Season over now, players going through the motions. We love you 17th. I recall bookies had us as decent favourites to be relegated? when do you recall that from ? we were not even amongst the 4 favourites on nov 29th
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