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Post by servernaside on Mar 30, 2021 11:09:07 GMT 1
Err no it’s not. It is believed she has communicated better, rather than handle the pandemic better. Well, if she has communicated better, which is/was vitally important, she must have handled it better. Boris' mixed messages have caused no end of problems. Most people...but clearly not all.....were perfectly capable of understanding the messages and instructions. Actions however speak louder than words, so regarding Nicola's involvement in finding a way out of this pandemic through the development, funding and roll-out of the vaccination programme.............any 'fair-minded' individual would tell you that her involvement was precisely nil.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 30, 2021 11:33:15 GMT 1
i think sturegeon has comunicated better than boris she is a very able and astute politician, but if we had listend to sturgeon we would have gone with the eu purchase scheme and we know what a mess that was, what i find distfull in some of the things she has said, was she blames england for ppe problems and claimed england was holding back on ppe,even though there was no evidence that we had.there was an enquiry in to scottish public helath procurement which found that all the subcontracters for the supply chain had purchased from chinese companies who cut of supplys when china was under its first wave. her bragging early on that scotland was having less deaths than england and doing a better job.all of which i found distasful but equally just as bad was boris vaccine natonalisim of we are doing better than the EU whilst true , i dont think it is a subject to be bragged about
in a debate Sturegeon can rings round boris
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 12:08:42 GMT 1
You obviously don't know what a rant is !!! This is a rant:- "Corbyn 'unelectable mainly due to the negative press'. Nothing to do with the fact he is an utter t**t and Marxist to boot" Copyright Severnaside and one of many. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt about you being fair minded but in the minority over Sturgeon. This proves that you are not !!! You certainly never put forward any logical or reasoned points. Well I actually quoted chapter and verse from reliable sources in response to your "rant" above, which I take it you are under the illusion the rant was logical and reasoned
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 12:35:16 GMT 1
Well, if she has communicated better, which is/was vitally important, she must have handled it better. Boris' mixed messages have caused no end of problems. If thats your level of thinking then its obvious to you she has handled it better, others though just think that if she says the sun shines out of her arse, does not actually means it does. Its always easy to sit a communicate, then go ask big brother to pay for it eh!! A view from the right leaning Spectator:- "Sturgeon’s rave reviews come not just from fawning Nationalists but also from dismayed Unionists. ‘Nicola has been calm, authoritative and cautious throughout,’ says one senior Tory MSP. And his own party leader? ‘Boris has over-promised and under-delivered. He lacks the appearance of seriousness, to the point where he lacks the appearance of competence."
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 31, 2021 11:45:53 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 12:02:05 GMT 1
"Responding to the report, finance secretary Kate Forbes said it highlighted a decade of “unrelenting” austerity from the Conservatives, adding that devolved taxes would raise more than £500m this year. She said: “While the Barnett formula does provide Scotland with slightly higher public spending per head than in England, it is already under attack by the Tories at Westminster, who have cut our capital budget by 5% and stripped the Scottish Parliament of powers so they can engage in ‘pork-barrel’ spending through the so-called levelling up fund. “Scotland’s funding will never be safe under a prime minister who famously said that a pound spent in Croydon is better than a pound spent in Strathclyde."
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 31, 2021 12:12:38 GMT 1
"Responding to the report, finance secretary Kate Forbes said it highlighted a decade of “unrelenting” austerity from the Conservatives, adding that devolved taxes would raise more than £500m this year. She said: “While the Barnett formula does provide Scotland with slightly higher public spending per head than in England, it is already under attack by the Tories at Westminster, who have cut our capital budget by 5% and stripped the Scottish Parliament of powers so they can engage in ‘pork-barrel’ spending through the so-called levelling up fund. “Scotland’s funding will never be safe under a prime minister who famously said that a pound spent in Croydon is better than a pound spent in Strathclyde." Well, apparently Scotland can afford to give NHS workers a 4% rise, England can only afford to give a 1% rise. 2% to 2 and a half% and I don't think many would have argued with it.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Mar 31, 2021 12:17:25 GMT 1
"Responding to the report, finance secretary Kate Forbes said it highlighted a decade of “unrelenting” austerity from the Conservatives, adding that devolved taxes would raise more than £500m this year. She said: “While the Barnett formula does provide Scotland with slightly higher public spending per head than in England, it is already under attack by the Tories at Westminster, who have cut our capital budget by 5% and stripped the Scottish Parliament of powers so they can engage in ‘pork-barrel’ spending through the so-called levelling up fund. “Scotland’s funding will never be safe under a prime minister who famously said that a pound spent in Croydon is better than a pound spent in Strathclyde." all good points but every part of the uk has faced cuts why should scotland be any different, when they are independent they will either have to raise taxes or makes cuts. you can say well that will be under there control and it will equally every year scotland over spends its budget and the rest of the uk pick up the tab. when independent it will intresting to see how there new currency goes and i actually do hope they do well ,some observers belive they will follow a more scandinavian model if so this is an example of how much tax sweden pay from wiki Local taxes in Sweden range from around 29.2% (Österåker municipality) to almost 35.2% (Dorotea municipality In 2020, the highest income earners in Sweden paid a whopping 57.19%, making it the highest tax paying country in the world. Generally, income taxes are higher in the Nordic countries.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 14:11:46 GMT 1
"Responding to the report, finance secretary Kate Forbes said it highlighted a decade of “unrelenting” austerity from the Conservatives, adding that devolved taxes would raise more than £500m this year. She said: “While the Barnett formula does provide Scotland with slightly higher public spending per head than in England, it is already under attack by the Tories at Westminster, who have cut our capital budget by 5% and stripped the Scottish Parliament of powers so they can engage in ‘pork-barrel’ spending through the so-called levelling up fund. “Scotland’s funding will never be safe under a prime minister who famously said that a pound spent in Croydon is better than a pound spent in Strathclyde." all good points but every part of the uk has faced cuts why should scotland be any different, when they are independent they will either have to raise taxes or makes cuts. you can say well that will be under there control and it will equally every year scotland over spends its budget and the rest of the uk pick up the tab. when independent it will intresting to see how there new currency goes and i actually do hope they do well ,some observers belive they will follow a more scandinavian model if so this is an example of how much tax sweden pay from wiki Local taxes in Sweden range from around 29.2% (Österåker municipality) to almost 35.2% (Dorotea municipality In 2020, the highest income earners in Sweden paid a whopping 57.19%, making it the highest tax paying country in the world. Generally, income taxes are higher in the Nordic countries. And the Nordic countries always come top of polls showing where are favourite places to live. Not so long ago the Lib Dems want to put a penny on income tax for extra NHS funding and was roundly rejected by the electorate but not in opinion polls. Why was that? From Thatcher's days all parties are scared to increase direct taxation.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 4, 2021 12:26:41 GMT 1
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Post by servernaside on Apr 4, 2021 17:23:41 GMT 1
"Responding to the report, finance secretary Kate Forbes said it highlighted a decade of “unrelenting” austerity from the Conservatives, adding that devolved taxes would raise more than £500m this year. She said: “While the Barnett formula does provide Scotland with slightly higher public spending per head than in England, it is already under attack by the Tories at Westminster, who have cut our capital budget by 5% and stripped the Scottish Parliament of powers so they can engage in ‘pork-barrel’ spending through the so-called levelling up fund. “Scotland’s funding will never be safe under a prime minister who famously said that a pound spent in Croydon is better than a pound spent in Strathclyde." all good points but every part of the uk has faced cuts why should scotland be any different, when they are independent they will either have to raise taxes or makes cuts. you can say well that will be under there control and it will equally every year scotland over spends its budget and the rest of the uk pick up the tab. when independent it will intresting to see how there new currency goes and i actually do hope they do well ,some observers belive they will follow a more scandinavian model if so this is an example of how much tax sweden pay from wiki Local taxes in Sweden range from around 29.2% (Österåker municipality) to almost 35.2% (Dorotea municipality In 2020, the highest income earners in Sweden paid a whopping 57.19%, making it the highest tax paying country in the world. Generally, income taxes are higher in the Nordic countries. Expect a flood of Scottish refugees heading south when this happens.
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 4, 2021 17:32:02 GMT 1
They can want what they like can only be granted by the British Parliament and they’ve already had one. Just like Brexiteers wanting another EU referendum. While the Scottish Parliament could hold an advisory referendum on the question of independence without the approval of the UK government, a binding referendum would likely require a section 30 order from the UK government, or an amendment to the Scotland Act 1998 by the UK Parliament.
If they did just imagine how trade with the EU would be affected. Already got a customs border in the Irish Sea. What would the EU want Scotland to do to become a member? Hard border between England and Scotland?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2021 18:10:23 GMT 1
They can want what they like can only be granted by the British Parliament and they’ve already had one. Just like Brexiteers wanting another EU referendum. While the Scottish Parliament could hold an advisory referendum on the question of independence without the approval of the UK government, a binding referendum would likely require a section 30 order from the UK government, or an amendment to the Scotland Act 1998 by the UK Parliament.
If they did just imagine how trade with the EU would be affected. Already got a customs border in the Irish Sea. What would the EU want Scotland to do to become a member? Hard border between England and Scotland? I have no doubt that there will be another Scottish indy ref, and I think this time, it has a possibility of getting over the line.... I also think there desire to be part of the EU will bankrupt them
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 4, 2021 18:36:51 GMT 1
They can want what they like can only be granted by the British Parliament and they’ve already had one. Just like Brexiteers wanting another EU referendum. While the Scottish Parliament could hold an advisory referendum on the question of independence without the approval of the UK government, a binding referendum would likely require a section 30 order from the UK government, or an amendment to the Scotland Act 1998 by the UK Parliament.
If they did just imagine how trade with the EU would be affected. Already got a customs border in the Irish Sea. What would the EU want Scotland to do to become a member? Hard border between England and Scotland? the snp have been making we love you we wont to rejoin the eu for ages , they will need to join the euro ,germany have been sending welcoming noises , an obsticle will be spain
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Post by davycrockett on Apr 5, 2021 8:15:11 GMT 1
Where the border going to be? EU wouldn’t allow an electronic border between Eire and NI hence border in Irish Sea with customs/border checks on everyone going to NI.
How are they going to stop you taking your dog to Scotland (if in EU) without a hard border? So many crazy obstacles.
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Post by servernaside on Apr 5, 2021 12:50:35 GMT 1
Where's Emperor Hadrian when you need him?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2021 12:06:04 GMT 1
Where the border going to be? EU wouldn’t allow an electronic border between Eire and NI hence border in Irish Sea with customs/border checks on everyone going to NI. How are they going to stop you taking your dog to Scotland (if in EU) without a hard border? So many crazy obstacles. a lot of this will depend on what kind of relationship hte rest of the uk has with scotland and how petty scotland wont to be in the short/ medium term till they rejoin the eu it is in there own intrests to make things simple since over 60% of there exports are with the rest of the union, i cant see the the uk goverment or the bank of england allowing them to keep the pound so they will have to create a new currency untill they join the EU. they will also be expected to take % of the national debt with them.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 6, 2021 12:08:11 GMT 1
i personaly will be sad if scotland leave the union , i like scotland and its people but if that is what the majority wont then that is how it will go.
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Post by servernaside on Apr 15, 2021 19:36:20 GMT 1
I see that Nicola Sturgeon is promising free dental and...wait for it.....a four day working week should the SNP gain a majority in the forthcoming Holyrood elections. She has however neglected to say exactly how and perhaps more importantly, who will pay for this largesse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 19:40:06 GMT 1
I see that Nicola Sturgeon is promising free dental and...wait for it.....a four day working week should the SNP gain a majority in the forthcoming Holyrood elections. She has however neglected to say exactly how and perhaps more importantly, who will pay for this largesse. More time for Buckfest and cocaine....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 22:55:54 GMT 1
I see that Nicola Sturgeon is promising free dental and...wait for it.....a four day working week should the SNP gain a majority in the forthcoming Holyrood elections. She has however neglected to say exactly how and perhaps more importantly, who will pay for this largesse. www.insider.co.uk/news/four-day-workweek-new-zealand-12952995
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 16, 2021 5:09:13 GMT 1
whilst i dont think it is unreasonable to ask how the scottish goverment is going to pay for this and it is hard not to think this is just a bribe to win votes., i also think it is good we have a leader who is thinking outside the box .
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 16, 2021 5:14:14 GMT 1
I see that Nicola Sturgeon is promising free dental and...wait for it.....a four day working week should the SNP gain a majority in the forthcoming Holyrood elections. She has however neglected to say exactly how and perhaps more importantly, who will pay for this largesse. bearing in mind this published on the 26th of august 2020 so the recent promises with no increase in taxation will lead to an increased defecit www.ifs.org.uk/publications/14982Today’s Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) figures show Scotland’s implicit budget deficit increasing to 8.6% of GDP in 2019-20, around 6 percentage points higher than the UK as a whole, largely reflecting higher government spending. The Covid-19 crisis means that figures for the current and next few years are likely to differ massively though. Indeed, the UK’s actual and Scotland’s implicit budget deficit this year could spike at almost 19% and 26-28% of GDP respectively, based on Office for Budget Responsibility projections. And ongoing economic weakness means that the deficits will likely remain elevated even in 2024-25. With this in mind, this observation looks at what we can learn from the GERS figures and what might be in store over the next few years. Introduction Over the last decade, the publication of Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (GERS) has become a key event in Scotland’s political diary. The figures have proved contentious, but while subject to a degree of potential measurement error, their status as National Statistics means they have been independently assessed as being based on sound methods and being produced free from political interference. And while backwards- rather than forwards-looking they do provide the most sensible starting point for assessing the kind of fiscal challenges and opportunities that Scotland would initially face under full fiscal autonomy or independence, as recognised by the SNP’s Sustainable Growth Commission. So, what can we infer from this year’s GERS figures about Scotland’s fiscal position? And how might things evolve in the light of the economic and fiscal impact of the Covid-19 crisis? Scotland’s implicit budget deficit increased in 2019-20 and was substantially higher than that of the UK as a whole The difference between revenues raised and government spending in or on behalf of Scotland is estimated to have been 8.6% of GDP in 2019-20. This is up from 7.4% in 2018-19, and is the first increase since 2015-16, when lower oil prices led to a slump in North Sea revenues. The increase again is partly driven by a fall in North Sea revenues, which accounts for about 0.4 percentage points of it. A fall in North Sea output also meant total Scottish GDP is estimated to have fallen slightly, pushing up Scotland’s implicit budget deficit when measured as a percentage of GDP. But around half of the increase in the implicit deficit reflects what happened onshore. Government expenditure increased by 1.1% above inflation, the fastest increase since 2010-11, as the UK government started to loosen the spending taps after nine years of austerity. On the other hand, onshore revenues declined by 0.2%, driven by weak income tax, VAT and corporation tax receipts. An increase in government spending and a stalling of revenue growth (driven by the same tax types) also led to the first increase in the budget deficit for the UK as a whole for a decade: up from 1.9% of GDP in 2018-19 to 2.6% of GDP in 2019-20. But Scotland’s deficit of 8.6% of GDP is a full 6.0 percentage points of GDP higher, a gap equivalent to almost £11 billion. Total borrowing is equivalent to £2,776 per person in Scotland, compared to £855 per person across the UK as a whole
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Post by Minormorris64 on Apr 16, 2021 8:47:10 GMT 1
whilst i dont think it is unreasonable to ask how the scottish goverment is going to pay for this and it is hard not to think this is just a bribe to win votes., i also think it is good we have a leader who is thinking outside the box . Thinking outside the box, Nicola Sturgeon hasn't even got a box.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 16, 2021 9:09:01 GMT 1
whilst i dont think it is unreasonable to ask how the scottish goverment is going to pay for this and it is hard not to think this is just a bribe to win votes., i also think it is good we have a leader who is thinking outside the box . Thinking outside the box, Nicola Sturgeon hasn't even got a box. anyone who has to pay for private dental care because there are either no nhs dentists or they cant get on the list for the ones that are might find free dental care somthing they would like, but any one can make all the promises in the world but how will they pay for it?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 16, 2021 9:29:28 GMT 1
did norway not turn down scotlands request to join the EEA because it did not meet the fiscal requirments ?
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Post by servernaside on Apr 16, 2021 10:38:30 GMT 1
I see that Nicola Sturgeon is promising free dental and...wait for it.....a four day working week should the SNP gain a majority in the forthcoming Holyrood elections. She has however neglected to say exactly how and perhaps more importantly, who will pay for this largesse. www.insider.co.uk/news/four-day-workweek-new-zealand-12952995A few isolated cases in the far flung corners of the world hardly represents a ringing global endorsement and in any case if productivity is enhanced, why stop at a four day week? Maybe a three or even a two day week is the way forward.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 11:35:10 GMT 1
Thinking outside the box, Nicola Sturgeon hasn't even got a box. anyone who has to pay for private dental care because there are either no nhs dentists or they cant get on the list for the ones that are might find free dental care somthing they would like, but any one can make all the promises in the world but how will they pay for it? Increase income tax and I hope she has the bottle to do it. Too many politicians are running scared of doing so although at times it has been popular with the electorate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 11:39:15 GMT 1
A few isolated cases in the far flung corners of the world hardly represents a ringing global endorsement and in any case if productivity is enhanced, why stop at a four day week? Maybe a three or even a two day week is the way forward. Your little Englander response is showing through there and only slightly removed from calling New Zealand a tin pot country. Here's another "far flung country" for you and I could go on in Europe. Maybe that is why you are against the EU. You want to go back to Victorian times !!! "Netherlands Not only is the Netherlands a beautiful place to live, but its four-day workweek is definitely a plus as well. The workforce averages around 29 hours a week with average annual wages at $47,000."
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 16, 2021 11:50:09 GMT 1
Where the border going to be? EU wouldn’t allow an electronic border between Eire and NI hence border in Irish Sea with customs/border checks on everyone going to NI. How are they going to stop you taking your dog to Scotland (if in EU) without a hard border? So many crazy obstacles. a lot of this will depend on what kind of relationship hte rest of the uk ...and I guess that would then depend on what kind of relationship Scotland has with the EU. I guess each has a knock on effect. I think there will be another referendum and I think there ought to be as well considering Brexit has come about (that has changed things enough for me to warrant another referendum) but if they were to vote to leave, it looks as though they will have a hell of a job on their hands (the questions and uncertainly around the currency, trade within Britain, trade with the EU, the wider world, looking to join the EU). Still, if that is what they are after then lets hope it works out for all...
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