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Post by ssshrew on Mar 4, 2021 11:08:16 GMT 1
I shall abide by their request for no publicity and not watch.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Mar 4, 2021 11:10:56 GMT 1
Horrible spoilt brat.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 4, 2021 11:22:42 GMT 1
I shall abide by their request for no publicity and not watch. There will be a huge audience, until the first ad break. I expect most will find the "showbiz" treatment too cringeworthy to stick with, depends if it's time for Eastenders on the other side.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 4, 2021 11:32:26 GMT 1
I shall abide by their request for no publicity and not watch. There will be a huge audience, until the first ad break. I expect most will find the "showbiz" treatment too cringeworthy to stick with, depends if it's time for Eastenders on the other side. No need to watch a minute of it. The content of the interview will be all over the British press long before the ITV programme is aired. You'll have to get to page 20 of the Daily Mail before anything else is mentioned.
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Post by staffordshrew on Mar 4, 2021 11:40:24 GMT 1
There will be a huge audience, until the first ad break. I expect most will find the "showbiz" treatment too cringeworthy to stick with, depends if it's time for Eastenders on the other side. No need to watch a minute of it. The content of the interview will be all over the British press long before the ITV programme is aired. You'll have to get to page 20 of the Daily Mail before anything else is mentioned. Got any bad news you want to bury? Jenrick deviousness? Williamson incompetence? Contracts awarded to "chums"? Smart Motorways a death trap? Cladding enquiry findings? NHS not being ready for a pandemic? Now's the time to bury that bad news.
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 4, 2021 11:42:56 GMT 1
I see ITV have moved the only drama worth watching at the moment to Tuesday so that they can bore us with yet another soap opera should we so choose.
No publicity please = Oprah Winfrey - yeah right!
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Post by northwestman on Mar 4, 2021 11:54:46 GMT 1
No need to watch a minute of it. The content of the interview will be all over the British press long before the ITV programme is aired. You'll have to get to page 20 of the Daily Mail before anything else is mentioned. Got any bad news you want to bury? Jenrick deviousness? Williamson incompetence? Contracts awarded to "chums"? Smart Motorways a death trap? Cladding enquiry findings? NHS not being ready for a pandemic? Now's the time to bury that bad news. You mean like this sort of stuff: The Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a thinktank focusing on poverty, says Sunak’s decision to go ahead with the reversal of the £20 per week universal credit uplift, albeit delayed for six months, will plunge 500,000 people into poverty. It says: The government’s decision to cut universal credit and working tax credit in six months – just as the furlough scheme ends and unemployment peaks – will pull 500,000 people including 200,000 children into poverty as we head into winter. The OBR’s latest forecasts show that unemployment is expected to increase by a further 500,000 people between now and the peak towards the end of the year. Despite that, the government has chosen to cut the main rate of unemployment support to its lowest level since 1990. And the Resolution Foundation, a thinktank focusing on living standards, especially for the low paid, says the poorest households will see their incomes fall by 7%. It says: The poorest households will face a 7 per cent fall in income in the second half of 2021-22 due to the removal of the £20 a week universal credit uplift, which will take the basic level of benefits back to levels not seen since the early 1990s at the same time as unemployment is due to peak. The Guardian.
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Post by Pilch on Mar 4, 2021 12:01:34 GMT 1
I shall abide by their request for no publicity and not watch. me too , I never do, you hear enough of it on the news for a week to need to sit through it too
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Post by ssshrew on Mar 4, 2021 12:19:08 GMT 1
Quite.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2021 12:44:51 GMT 1
There will be a huge audience, until the first ad break. I expect most will find the "showbiz" treatment too cringeworthy to stick with, depends if it's time for Eastenders on the other side. No need to watch a minute of it. The content of the interview will be all over the British press long before the ITV programme is aired. You'll have to get to page 20 of the Daily Mail before anything else is mentioned. On the BBC news site this morning. Even if you are not interested in the whole circus it's hard to avoid it unless you live in a cave 😅
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 4, 2021 12:55:28 GMT 1
No need to watch a minute of it. The content of the interview will be all over the British press long before the ITV programme is aired. You'll have to get to page 20 of the Daily Mail before anything else is mentioned. On the BBC news site this morning. Even if you are not interested in the whole circus it's hard to avoid it unless you live in a cave 😅 I wish Prince Harry and IT the most virtuous Meghan would.......................live in a cave that is
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Post by venceremos on Mar 4, 2021 13:55:26 GMT 1
Imagine if we were all real grown ups and didn't have a royal family and its lickspittle hangers on knobbling our pitiable attempts at being a meritocracy. None of this playground charade would be happening.
I close my eyes and ears and it doesn't exist in my world. No, I won't be watching - whatever it is that's being broadcast.
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Post by dachshund on Mar 4, 2021 14:48:32 GMT 1
On the BBC news site this morning. Even if you are not interested in the whole circus it's hard to avoid it unless you live in a cave 😅 I wish Prince Harry and IT would.......................live in a cave that is It’s really hard to conclude anything other than that this board continues to have a persistent and vitriolic racist element
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Post by shrewder on Mar 4, 2021 15:48:38 GMT 1
Dont see any racism in it . Just two people who have set themselves up for criticism , when they would have been better to have just to have kept themselves more to themselves instead of sharing personal issues with the media.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 4, 2021 16:23:26 GMT 1
I wish Prince Harry and IT would.......................live in a cave that is It’s really hard to conclude anything other than that this board continues to have a persistent and vitriolic racist element Not racist in the slightest just cannot abide this pairing, and there antics over the last 12 months or so, quite simple really. When you look how his Grandmother conducts herself, well there just is no comparison. So racist I am not Sir, but thanks for the attempted slur, hope you feel better for it.
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Post by Dancin on Mar 4, 2021 16:26:39 GMT 1
I wish Prince Harry and IT would.......................live in a cave that is It’s really hard to conclude anything other than that this board continues to have a persistent and vitriolic racist element Really where?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 4, 2021 16:40:28 GMT 1
Dont see any racism in it . I've had a look through the thread again, I can't see anything either. But I wouldn't worry, no doubt it'll just be one those who happens to find racism in anyone and anything they happen to disagree with. Its a sad reflection on the board to be honest, that we have an element who seem to come determined to label others racist, fascist, xenophobe and Lord knows what have you. I mean I'm looking at the thread, I'm looking at who is contributing, I'm looking at those who might well be critical of the royal couple and I can't say I'm seeing any sort of "persistent and vitriolic racist element" within that group. The mind boggles...
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Post by dachshund on Mar 4, 2021 16:43:15 GMT 1
It’s really hard to conclude anything other than that this board continues to have a persistent and vitriolic racist element Really where? One example was hoping that ‘it’ would live in a cave, when talking about the only person of colour involved. These things aren’t deeply hidden.
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Post by shrewder on Mar 4, 2021 16:49:25 GMT 1
Dont see any racism in it . I've had a look through the thread again, I can't see anything either.  But I wouldn't worry, no doubt it'll just be one those who happens to find racism in anyone and anything they happen to disagree with. Its a sad reflection on the board to be honest, that we have an element who seem to come determined to label others racist, fascist, xenophobe and Lord knows what have you. I mean I'm looking at the thread, I'm looking at who is contributing, I'm looking at those who might well be critical of the royal couple and I can't say I'm seeing any sort of "persistent and vitriolic racist element" within that group. The mind boggles... Totally agree. Some seem to find racism in everything.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 4, 2021 16:49:55 GMT 1
It’s really hard to conclude anything other than that this board continues to have a persistent and vitriolic racist element Not racist in the slightest just cannot abide this pairing, and there antics over the last 12 months or so, quite simple really. When you look how his Grandmother conducts herself, well there just is no comparison. So racist I am not Sir, but thanks for the attempted slur, hope you feel better for it. You called one Prince Harry and the other ..... IT. OK, take your word on the racism. Misogyny perhaps? Good old fashioned xenophobia? Don't know, maybe none of these things but it's deeply unpleasant to refer to a man by his title and name and his wife as subhuman.
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Post by dachshund on Mar 4, 2021 16:52:18 GMT 1
Dont see any racism in it . I've had a look through the thread again, I can't see anything either.  But I wouldn't worry, no doubt it'll just be one those who happens to find racism in anyone and anything they happen to disagree with. Its a sad reflection on the board to be honest, that we have an element who seem to come determined to label others racist, fascist, xenophobe and Lord knows what have you. I mean I'm looking at the thread, I'm looking at who is contributing, I'm looking at those who might well be critical of the royal couple and I can't say I'm seeing any sort of "persistent and vitriolic racist element" within that group. The mind boggles... Come off it. I have no strong views on her either way, but Meghan is clearly being described in very different language here and in the media compared to any other member of the royal family. Here’s another example: www.thedailybeast.com/andrew-pierce-senior-daily-mail-editor-prompts-outrage-for-questioning-meghan-markles-race‘Do you look at her… and see a Black woman? Because I don’t. I see a very attractive, a very attractive woman..
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 4, 2021 16:55:32 GMT 1
Not racist in the slightest just cannot abide this pairing, and there antics over the last 12 months or so, quite simple really. When you look how his Grandmother conducts herself, well there just is no comparison. So racist I am not Sir, but thanks for the attempted slur, hope you feel better for it. You called one Prince Harry and the other ..... IT. OK, take your word on the racism. Misogyny perhaps? Good old fashioned xenophobia? Don't know, maybe none of these things but it's deeply unpleasant to refer to a man by his title and name and his wife as subhuman. I would in my defence venture that her behaviour in all this has hardly been of the highest order has it?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 4, 2021 16:57:19 GMT 1
I've had a look through the thread again, I can't see anything either. But I wouldn't worry, no doubt it'll just be one those who happens to find racism in anyone and anything they happen to disagree with. Its a sad reflection on the board to be honest, that we have an element who seem to come determined to label others racist, fascist, xenophobe and Lord knows what have you. I mean I'm looking at the thread, I'm looking at who is contributing, I'm looking at those who might well be critical of the royal couple and I can't say I'm seeing any sort of "persistent and vitriolic racist element" within that group. The mind boggles... Totally agree. Some seem to find racism in everything. It is. Its actually going out of your way to do so; deeply hidden read non-existent. I'm guessing they used it because they don't happen to like her. That's about the sum of it. She clearly rubs an awful lot of people up the wrong way. That she may be the one person of colour involved in the relationship is by the by, it irrelevant. Or rather it ought to be when there is clearly no racism directed at anyone within this thread.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 4, 2021 16:57:27 GMT 1
Not racist in the slightest just cannot abide this pairing, and there antics over the last 12 months or so, quite simple really. When you look how his Grandmother conducts herself, well there just is no comparison. So racist I am not Sir, but thanks for the attempted slur, hope you feel better for it. You called one Prince Harry and the other ..... IT. OK, take your word on the racism. Misogyny perhaps? Good old fashioned xenophobia? Don't know, maybe none of these things but it's deeply unpleasant to refer to a man by his title and name and his wife as subhuman. If you find that deeply unpleasant I can only think that your threshold for such things is almost non existent?
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Post by Minormorris64 on Mar 4, 2021 17:00:51 GMT 1
On the BBC news site this morning. Even if you are not interested in the whole circus it's hard to avoid it unless you live in a cave 😅 I wish Prince Harry and IT the most virtuous Meghan would.......................live in a cave that is Just to please those who were ever so offended by my original post, no doubt I will now be accused of being sarcastic and demeaning towards a Female ?
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Post by servernaside on Mar 4, 2021 17:02:21 GMT 1
Got any bad news you want to bury? Jenrick deviousness? Williamson incompetence? Contracts awarded to "chums"? Smart Motorways a death trap? Cladding enquiry findings? NHS not being ready for a pandemic? Now's the time to bury that bad news. You mean like this sort of stuff: The Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a thinktank focusing on poverty, says Sunak’s decision to go ahead with the reversal of the £20 per week universal credit uplift, albeit delayed for six months, will plunge 500,000 people into poverty. It says: The government’s decision to cut universal credit and working tax credit in six months – just as the furlough scheme ends and unemployment peaks – will pull 500,000 people including 200,000 children into poverty as we head into winter. The OBR’s latest forecasts show that unemployment is expected to increase by a further 500,000 people between now and the peak towards the end of the year. Despite that, the government has chosen to cut the main rate of unemployment support to its lowest level since 1990. And the Resolution Foundation, a thinktank focusing on living standards, especially for the low paid, says the poorest households will see their incomes fall by 7%. It says: The poorest households will face a 7 per cent fall in income in the second half of 2021-22 due to the removal of the £20 a week universal credit uplift, which will take the basic level of benefits back to levels not seen since the early 1990s at the same time as unemployment is due to peak. The Guardian. The Guardian? What a surprise.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 4, 2021 17:06:57 GMT 1
You mean like this sort of stuff: The Joseph Rowntree Foundation, a thinktank focusing on poverty, says Sunak’s decision to go ahead with the reversal of the £20 per week universal credit uplift, albeit delayed for six months, will plunge 500,000 people into poverty. It says: The government’s decision to cut universal credit and working tax credit in six months – just as the furlough scheme ends and unemployment peaks – will pull 500,000 people including 200,000 children into poverty as we head into winter. The OBR’s latest forecasts show that unemployment is expected to increase by a further 500,000 people between now and the peak towards the end of the year. Despite that, the government has chosen to cut the main rate of unemployment support to its lowest level since 1990. And the Resolution Foundation, a thinktank focusing on living standards, especially for the low paid, says the poorest households will see their incomes fall by 7%. It says: The poorest households will face a 7 per cent fall in income in the second half of 2021-22 due to the removal of the £20 a week universal credit uplift, which will take the basic level of benefits back to levels not seen since the early 1990s at the same time as unemployment is due to peak. The Guardian. The Guardian? What a surprise. Inability to look beyond the source of the story and see that it's simply reporting what other organisations had commented? What a surprise.
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Post by venceremos on Mar 4, 2021 17:10:59 GMT 1
You called one Prince Harry and the other ..... IT. OK, take your word on the racism. Misogyny perhaps? Good old fashioned xenophobia? Don't know, maybe none of these things but it's deeply unpleasant to refer to a man by his title and name and his wife as subhuman. I would in my defence venture that her behaviour in all this has hardly been of the highest order has it? I don't know and I'm not interested in the story and what people imagine the truth of it to be. [How do you claim to know, by the way?] My only interest is in watching the bizarre ritual of people getting in such a froth about a foreign woman and her husband deciding they don't want to be part of the royal family circus.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 4, 2021 17:14:19 GMT 1
I've had a look through the thread again, I can't see anything either. But I wouldn't worry, no doubt it'll just be one those who happens to find racism in anyone and anything they happen to disagree with. Its a sad reflection on the board to be honest, that we have an element who seem to come determined to label others racist, fascist, xenophobe and Lord knows what have you. I mean I'm looking at the thread, I'm looking at who is contributing, I'm looking at those who might well be critical of the royal couple and I can't say I'm seeing any sort of "persistent and vitriolic racist element" within that group. The mind boggles... Come off it. I have no strong views on her either way, but Meghan is clearly being described in very different language here and in the media compared to any other member of the royal family. Here’s another example: www.thedailybeast.com/andrew-pierce-senior-daily-mail-editor-prompts-outrage-for-questioning-meghan-markles-race‘Do you look at her… and see a Black woman? Because I don’t. I see a very attractive, a very attractive woman.. You're throwing around accusations of some "persistent and vitriolic racist element" here on B&A when I see nothing of the sort when looking to this thread. Yes, I'm sure she is being described in a very different manner but that is because it is clearly a very different situation they find themselves in compared to others in the royal family. As in, they are certainly not going to be spoken in the same terms as the other brother and his wife because their situations are miles apart. To call her it isn't particular nice, its demeaning and churlish. I wouldn't use those terms myself. That is because I don't actually hold that strong an option on what they have done. But clearly many people have fairly strong feeling towards how they have gone about things and Markle in particular (as she is seen as the instigator and the driving force between the two, rightly or wrongly). All you are doing is labelling this as racist because she happens to be a person of colour. As far as I can see, that's it. Its as if some abuse or criticism directed to a person of colour just automatically means it is down to racism. That you feel it is acceptable to do so... I mean what else are you looking at? Where else do you see evidence of this "persistent and vitriolic racist element" on B&A? Is that again based on nothing more than some being critical or uncomplimentary about Markle?
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Post by venceremos on Mar 4, 2021 17:16:05 GMT 1
You called one Prince Harry and the other ..... IT. OK, take your word on the racism. Misogyny perhaps? Good old fashioned xenophobia? Don't know, maybe none of these things but it's deeply unpleasant to refer to a man by his title and name and his wife as subhuman. If you find that deeply unpleasant I can only think that your threshold for such things is almost non existent? " deeply unpleasant" was simply a description of your words, not a reflection of any emotional turmoil here, but thanks for your concern. You don't think it's unpleasant to refer to someone as "it"? What a nice character you must be.
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