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Post by ipswichshrews on Jan 15, 2021 8:50:37 GMT 1
Seems he's not signing us for Shrewsbury
Free us another space for someone Cotterill wishes to bring in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 9:27:49 GMT 1
That's mad if the fee is 50k, when they said it to much i was thinking 100+. At 50k you could sell him on in a year. One that got away if we don't get him, but this could be paper talk again, got this feeling they don't want him back.
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jan 15, 2021 9:51:18 GMT 1
That's mad if the fee is 50k, when they said it to much i was thinking 100+. At 50k you could sell him on in a year. One that got away if we don't get him, but this could be paper talk again, got this feeling they don't want him back. Totally agree. He was good attacking wise popping up all over place but surely defensively he wasn’t even bad? Better than what we got? With Millar and Fossey going back it just leaves Love as our only recognised RB. I still hold hope, nothing seems official as yet. Maybe a chance to re-negotiate a reduced fee whilst he has Covid-19?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Jan 15, 2021 10:08:10 GMT 1
That's mad if the fee is 50k, when they said it to much i was thinking 100+. At 50k you could sell him on in a year. One that got away if we don't get him, but this could be paper talk again, got this feeling they don't want him back. Totally agree. He was good attacking wise popping up all over place but surely defensively he wasn’t even bad? Better than what we got? With Millar and Fossey going back it just leaves Love as our only recognised RB. I still hold hope, nothing seems official as yet. Maybe a chance to re-negotiate a reduced fee whilst he has Covid-19? at that price it seems strange to have not signed him
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 15, 2021 10:25:48 GMT 1
I'll believe it when told confirm it.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 15, 2021 10:29:23 GMT 1
Totally agree. He was good attacking wise popping up all over place but surely defensively he wasn’t even bad? Better than what we got? With Millar and Fossey going back it just leaves Love as our only recognised RB. I still hold hope, nothing seems official as yet. Maybe a chance to re-negotiate a reduced fee whilst he has Covid-19? at that price it seems strange to have not signed him Agree. Seems a low risk investment with potential profit further down the line.
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 15, 2021 11:03:35 GMT 1
If it’s true I’m sure SC will have his reasons. I can’t see money being the main part. I would have thought the club would pull out all the stops if SC really wanted him that badly. Cant see RW waiting so long to get his man and then bulk at one of his first requests.
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 15, 2021 11:18:49 GMT 1
If it’s true I’m sure SC will have his reasons. I can’t see money being the main part. I would have thought the club would pull out all the stops if SC really wanted him that badly. Cant see RW waiting so long to get his man and then bulk at one of his first requests. I read it that SCs not that bothered. He’s saying that the agreement Shrewsbury had made to loan with an option to buy which must have been for the £50k stated wasn’t valid anymore and also questioning his defensive skills. So he’s told the player he’s not worth £50K and struggles defensively so unlikely to want him that badly.. Off course he may just be negotiating to get the best price which is a bit of a risk if others are interested. Im sure if he did want him RW would pay the £50k
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 11:28:38 GMT 1
Maybe a James Bolton return
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 11:33:56 GMT 1
Firstly, I'm reluctant to believe the source as a number of Australian websites/social media have put stories up about Millar over the last few months and they haven't been too reliable. I'm sure Cotterill or Caldwell have had a dig at sources over there and/or his agent making up stories in order to get more interest in him and i wonder if it is the same here. On face value £50k isnt a huge amount but when your income has been decimated for the last 12 months and you have been making staff redundant then I'm guessing you have to be even more prudent than usual, perhaps we think we can get a similar player without spending £50k. Plus I'm still not sure what Cotterill's thoughts are on him, he has been quite coy so I'm not clear whether he rates him or not. The other thing to consider is Newcastle Jets are in all sorts of problems financially so perhaps we are trying to take advantage of that www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/clear-failings-newcastle-s-owner-booted-but-jets-to-play-on-in-a-league-w-league-20210104-p56rnb.htmlIf he signs I'll be happy, if not then we move on.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 15, 2021 11:56:34 GMT 1
That's mad if the fee is 50k, when they said it to much i was thinking 100+. At 50k you could sell him on in a year. One that got away if we don't get him, but this could be paper talk again, got this feeling they don't want him back. I'm not so sure with regards to the fee with the state of things at the moment. Maybe any thoughts of bringing anyone in for a fee will be shelved for a bit. Not sure but looking to what is written in the Star it looks as though Davis came in on a free. Wouldn't surprise me if that's how we'll be operating in this window.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 15, 2021 12:18:20 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 12:42:31 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending But 50k is a players wage for the year, i would prefer to have a footballer that we have seen perform than go for somebody like Cummings a big name that will misfire here. Over the years i have got excited over players signing thinking that's a great signing then pulling on the blue and amber then being average, signings like Love, Cummings come to mind. There are players in the squad that just wont flourish here, the need a fresh start and a different management structure to give them the kick up the ass they need to perform. I don't think Millar is one of them. Millar is defiantly a good player tried and tested, just needs to be coached defensively which is SC job to be able to do that, what he offers on the right is different to any other player, but in the defensively against the big boys you rest him and bring a defensive minded player in. To me he's well worth the reported fee
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 15, 2021 12:53:55 GMT 1
If SC wants him he will get him.
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Post by northwestman on Jan 15, 2021 13:02:59 GMT 1
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 15, 2021 13:04:02 GMT 1
We are lucky enough to have one of the most experienced managers in the game so have no problem in saying In SC we trust.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 15, 2021 13:12:40 GMT 1
Clearly not a finished article but I see more positives than negatives in him so would be somewhat disappointed if we’ve seen the last of him.
With similar uncertainty over Charlie Daniels’ future I hope and expect SC has both wing back positions firmly on his agenda, as they’re some of the most important positions on the pitch in a 3-5-2
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Post by Pilch on Jan 15, 2021 13:13:02 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending But 50k is a players wage for the year, i would prefer to have a footballer that we have seen perform than go for somebody like Cummings a big name that will misfire here. Over the years i have got excited over players signing thinking that's a great signing then pulling on the blue and amber then being average, signings like Love, Cummings come to mind. There are players in the squad that just wont flourish here, the need a fresh start and a different management structure to give them the kick up the ass they need to perform. I don't think Millar is one of them. Millar is defiantly a good player tried and tested, just needs to be coached defensively which is SC job to be able to do that, what he offers on the right is different to any other player, but in the defensively against the big boys you rest him and bring a defensive minded player in. To me he's well worth the reported fee I thought hibs were interested in Cummings , I thought that was a bit strange , perhaps more agent rubbish like we heard with millar , he needs a step down not up , maybe Ross county would be more suited
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Post by Stowmarket Shrew on Jan 15, 2021 13:17:45 GMT 1
Interesting. Not easy to know how truthful this £50k figure is and it's also fair to say Cotterill did not see as much of him as we did, so I'd like to trust his judgement here.
That said, for someone playing league football for the first time I thought he equipped himself superbly and as others have said, I saw way more positives than negatives. With the right coaching and more games under his belt you'd like to think a fee of that order would be a hugely worthwhile investment but, as I say, we've got to trust Cotterill on this one.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 15, 2021 13:19:29 GMT 1
I heard Cowdenbeath might be interested in our resident Joker
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 13:39:04 GMT 1
at that price it seems strange to have not signed him Agree. Seems a low risk investment with potential profit further down the line. I think we would be mad, there are going to be loads of freebies going soon..... prices of lower league players will all be loan or free unless they are Pele’s class
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 15, 2021 13:42:27 GMT 1
I heard Cowdenbeath might be interested in our resident Joker They have had a local scout watching him I believe? Well, a local fan anyway.
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 15, 2021 13:42:52 GMT 1
Agree. Seems a low risk investment with potential profit further down the line. I think we would be mad, there are going to be loads of freebies going soon..... prices of lower league players will all be loan or free unless they are Pele’s class Good point. If that happens, player wage are going to drop too. I wouldn’t say we would be mad to get him though, I think he is a more than decent RWB.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 15, 2021 13:51:25 GMT 1
I heard Cowdenbeath might be interested in our resident Joker They have had a local scout watching him I believe? Well, a local fan anyway. Thorough too, they even have his local postman checking his food parcel deliveries for nutritional content!
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 15, 2021 13:51:42 GMT 1
splashing cash like £50,000 in our current financial position needs careful consideration
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 15, 2021 14:07:38 GMT 1
splashing cash like £50,000 in our current financial position needs careful consideration Unless you really need those skills and it would probably cost more and be a bigger risk to bring someone else in.
If you don't really need his skillset, then we only have 22 "berths" available in our league squad, so no point wasting money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 14:07:46 GMT 1
I don’t ever remember blaming him for a goal so not sure why he’s all of a sudden being called out as shoddy as a defender. He’s league 1 so he’s not going to be the polished article. Agree that dropping £50k (if true) isn’t ideal in this climate. Not sure this one’s finished yet ... to be continued?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2021 14:17:30 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending I think ‘raw’ is a fairer description. ‘Headless chicken’ is very unfair to someone who’s played more than their part in a fantastic run.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 15, 2021 14:51:09 GMT 1
They have had a local scout watching him I believe? Well, a local fan anyway. Thorough too, they even have his local postman checking his food parcel deliveries for nutritional content! I did notice someone was following me too
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Post by davycrockett on Jan 15, 2021 14:53:36 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending So SC definitely wouldn’t sign him then so I wonder why he’s still hanging about? Be interesting to see if SC chooses a headless chicken against Southampton.
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