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Post by davycrockett on Jan 15, 2021 15:01:39 GMT 1
splashing cash like £50,000 in our current financial position needs careful consideration It’s less than we’ll make playing Southampton which Brian confirmed he though it unlikely we’d play the game last week and have to forfeit. You right though whatever we spend we need the balance of Roland's prudence versus fans expectations....We’re in a much better financial situation than most so should be able to compete well.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Jan 15, 2021 15:11:12 GMT 1
I heard Cowdenbeath might be interested in our resident Joker I think some of the udder players at Central Park might be slightly jealous of his salary. Although thinking about it, if I win the Blue Brazil lottery this wick, it's £3,400 so I could take the heat off the signing for 7 days.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 15, 2021 15:42:02 GMT 1
50k is about 50k too much for him , pleased that we didn’t fall for the underhand sales tactics , he may have looked half decent going forward but I thought he was a headless chicken when it comes to defending So SC definitely wouldn’t sign him then so I wonder why he’s still hanging about? Be interesting to see if SC chooses a headless chicken against Southampton. not had a lot of choice lately for right back have we, would have been a major crisis had ricketts still been here 😜
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 15, 2021 22:41:18 GMT 1
splashing cash like £50,000 in our current financial position needs careful consideration .We’re in a much better financial situation than most so should be able to compete well. I'm sure we are, but I'm also sure that we are nowhere near in as good a financial situation than we were 12 months ago. We will still be feeling the pinch quite substantially.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 15, 2021 22:56:28 GMT 1
some of our fans still have the mentality of vivien nicholson
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Post by Salopfan99 on Jan 19, 2021 12:56:27 GMT 1
Confirmed that he’s gone back
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Post by South Stand Salopian on Jan 19, 2021 12:57:01 GMT 1
Big shame.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 19, 2021 12:58:57 GMT 1
So nobody wanted him then
Strange that 😜
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Post by shrewdracer on Jan 19, 2021 13:16:18 GMT 1
Could he not sign a pre contract agreement with us for when his contract expires in the summer? But I guess that depends on if we find better.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 13:18:07 GMT 1
More to do with having to pay a fee than lack of ability I imagine as it seemed Cotterill wanted to keep him (according to Lewis Cox)
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Post by SamHarvey on Jan 19, 2021 13:19:44 GMT 1
Big shame, certainly looked a talented player. Didn’t SC say the original deal was going to cost to much? Shame both parties couldn’t come to some sort of agreement. Never mind we’ll move on. Can’t the Everton lad slot in at right back?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 13:36:13 GMT 1
A £50k gamble that he may or may not come back to us!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 13:43:36 GMT 1
Could he not sign a pre contract agreement with us for when his contract expires in the summer? But I guess that depends on if we find better. Doubt his agent will recommend him doing that
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 19, 2021 13:49:40 GMT 1
Going back to Australia? He'll be lucky, there are 37,000 aussies stranded abroad. His best chance of a speedy return is to masquerade as a tennis player.
If he gets back he will have to quarantine there before he can resume playing with Benny (Kantarovski) and the Jets.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 19, 2021 13:57:51 GMT 1
Going back to Australia? He'll be lucky, there are 37,000 aussies stranded abroad. His best chance of a speedy return is to masquerade as a tennis player. If he gets back he will have to quarantine there before he can resume playing with Benny (Kantarovski) and the Jets. I read there's a £1,700 charge for returning Aussies to quarantine in a hotel room for 14 days. The selling trip to the UK doesn't seem to have achieved much for the Jets or Millar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 14:11:11 GMT 1
ahh well, never mind, move on
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Post by Mortgagehound on Jan 19, 2021 14:11:33 GMT 1
Jets stadium looks smart
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Post by pughywasfree on Jan 19, 2021 14:16:29 GMT 1
Not sure how Miller has suddenly become a defensive liability? Even if he isn't the best at defending (although I've had no issue with his defensive work) his attacking play more then makes up for it. He was one of our most important players imo.
Yes we haven't got a lot of money coming in but every club is in the same boat. We've got the added advantage of being well run with money in the bank. If we take a couple of risks whilst prices will be lower we could cash in once all this s**te is over.
I don't believe that 50k is too much. Either SC doesn't rate him, this is a nagotiation tactic or another club has come in and offered more.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 19, 2021 14:24:28 GMT 1
Going back to Australia? He'll be lucky, there are 37,000 aussies stranded abroad. His best chance of a speedy return is to masquerade as a tennis player. If he gets back he will have to quarantine there before he can resume playing with Benny (Kantarovski) and the Jets. I read there's a £1,700 charge for returning Aussies to quarantine in a hotel room for 14 days. The selling trip to the UK doesn't seem to have achieved much for the Jets or Millar. Flight's about the same cost. but can be up to £5000.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Jan 19, 2021 14:45:09 GMT 1
Yes we haven't got a lot of money coming in but every club is in the same boat. We've got the added advantage of being well run with money in the bank. If we take a couple of risks whilst prices will be lower we could cash in once all this s**te is over. Think this years accounts will be interesting reading when they get sorted. I'm sure we have suffered very much the same as most other clubs through lack of income these last 12 months Thankfully we will have started off from a lot better place than many others but I'm sure money is still pretty tight at GM right now. Paying the manager off will have cost a bit, as will paying a very bloated 1st team squad plus short term deals for Daniels and Pugh who wont have come cheaply. Think the cash in the bank will be substantially reduced.
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Jan 19, 2021 14:51:13 GMT 1
Didn't realise he was out of contract in the summer. Don't think he will be in Australia for long as I'm sure he will have picked up a few admirers in his little spell here.
We shall see if it will be here, but I think if SC really wanted him he then town would have agreed to pay the £50k.
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Post by blamber on Jan 19, 2021 15:01:28 GMT 1
So SC definitely wouldn’t sign him then so I wonder why he’s still hanging about? Be interesting to see if SC chooses a headless chicken against Southampton. not had a lot of choice lately for right back have we, would have been a major crisis had ricketts still been here 😜 Most probably. But then Ricketts didn't have the luxury of having chalked up 15 points from the last seven games (did he ever?) and remaining unbeaten. Which is why the right back situation is not considered a crisis by fans. But it's certainly a worry. I think it's a shame Miller has gone and he'll be tricky to replace. PS It's clear that you're still upset about Sam being fired but you should try and move on. As you suggest to many of us from time to time, there are quite a few SR threads where you can express your support for him without littering every thread with a dig for Sam.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 15:24:12 GMT 1
Not sure how Miller has suddenly become a defensive liability? Even if he isn't the best at defending (although I've had no issue with his defensive work) his attacking play more then makes up for it. He was one of our most important players imo. Yes we haven't got a lot of money coming in but every club is in the same boat. We've got the added advantage of being well run with money in the bank. If we take a couple of risks whilst prices will be lower we could cash in once all this s**te is over. I don't believe that 50k is too much. Either SC doesn't rate him, this is a nagotiation tactic or another club has come in and offered more. Exactly my thoughts. Even if they’re asking £50k, that’s not the price we’d necessarily be paying. I’m hoping he’ll come back to us, but don’t think his agent will be advising that. If he’s available in 6 months time, he’ll be available on a free and thus his wages will be out of our reach. I really think we’ve missed the boat here.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 19, 2021 16:02:25 GMT 1
Not sure how Miller has suddenly become a defensive liability? Even if he isn't the best at defending (although I've had no issue with his defensive work) his attacking play more then makes up for it. He was one of our most important players imo. Yes we haven't got a lot of money coming in but every club is in the same boat. We've got the added advantage of being well run with money in the bank. If we take a couple of risks whilst prices will be lower we could cash in once all this s**te is over. I don't believe that 50k is too much. Either SC doesn't rate him, this is a nagotiation tactic or another club has come in and offered more. Exactly my thoughts. Even if they’re asking £50k, that’s not the price we’d necessarily be paying. I’m hoping he’ll come back to us, but don’t think his agent will be advising that. If he’s available in 6 months time, he’ll be available on a free and thus his wages will be out of our reach. I really think we’ve missed the boat here. None of the other clubs supposedly queued in admiration thought he was worth £50k either - or what they might have ended up paying. And the difference between paying less than £50k now, as you suggest, and nothing in summer is too small to make his wage demands in summer unaffordable for us - unless he was already asking for more than we thought he was worth, of course. But no, that never happens, it's always us missing the boat .....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 16:30:50 GMT 1
Not exactly the case after all!!! I'm sorry he's not staying with us but hey ho, you win some, you lose some. Life at the GM goes on....
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Post by ssshrew on Jan 19, 2021 16:42:47 GMT 1
It will be what it is and we have more important things to worry about now like the health of our manager. SC obviously didn’t think he wanted to pay over the odds and we either trust his judgement and move on or we fret about it forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 17:19:32 GMT 1
It looks like many of our fans have believed the hype that his agent built up and because there was a load of supposed interest from L1/Championship clubs then its a huge mistake. On the basis no other club has snapped him up I'm assuming that was down to his agent trying to force our hand and fair play to the club for not falling for it.
I'll make it clear that I'm disappointed he hasnt signed as I do rate him but we need to be realistic, our financial position has been completely changed by the last 10 months and realistically fans wont be allowed in until next season so thats 18 months of minimal income. To splash out a transfer fee on a player who our manager has some concerns about defensively and is out of contract in 6 months may be questioned as wise in the current circumstances.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 19, 2021 17:26:12 GMT 1
not had a lot of choice lately for right back have we, would have been a major crisis had ricketts still been here 😜 Most probably. But then Ricketts didn't have the luxury of having chalked up 15 points from the last seven games (did he ever?) and remaining unbeaten. Which is why the right back situation is not considered a crisis by fans. But it's certainly a worry. I think it's a shame Miller has gone and he'll be tricky to replace. PS It's clear that you're still upset about Sam being fired but you should try and move on. As you suggest to many of us from time to time, there are quite a few SR threads where you can express your support for him without littering every thread with a dig for Sam. you are totally wrong i'm not upset at all, i'm just pointing out that many of the same fans are now making excuses for exactly the same problems they were once screaming about, im not upset, i find it amusing and enjoy it , you seem to the the one irritated by it ;-) god forgive us if we happen to lose one nil away to a premier side tonight
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 17:26:54 GMT 1
It looks like many of our fans have believed the hype that his agent built up and because there was a load of supposed interest from L1/Championship clubs then its a huge mistake. On the basis no other club has snapped him up I'm assuming that was down to his agent trying to force our hand and fair play to the club for not falling for it. I'll make it clear that I'm disappointed he hasnt signed as I do rate him but we need to be realistic, our financial position has been completely changed by the last 10 months and realistically fans wont be allowed in until next season so thats 18 months of minimal income. To splash out a transfer fee on a player who our manager has some concerns about defensively and is out of contract in 6 months may be questioned as wise in the current circumstances. I didn’t believe the hype by his agent. I just saw a talented, raw, hardworking player who at 24 years old is worth taking a £50k punt on. Arguably, he’s impressed more than some who have been here for 2 seasons. If he gave us 2 years and we didn’t get a fee on any future sale, I’d see it as good business. I’m pretty sure he’d be sold on for profit though. In normal circumstances I don’t think we’d be as hesitant, so I understand it being risky paying a fee but honestly don’t think we’d lose out here.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 19, 2021 17:39:15 GMT 1
Not sure how Miller has suddenly become a defensive liability? Even if he isn't the best at defending (although I've had no issue with his defensive work) his attacking play more then makes up for it. He was one of our most important players imo. Yes we haven't got a lot of money coming in but every club is in the same boat. We've got the added advantage of being well run with money in the bank. If we take a couple of risks whilst prices will be lower we could cash in once all this s**te is over. I don't believe that 50k is too much. Either SC doesn't rate him, this is a nagotiation tactic or another club has come in and offered more. i personally thought he was our worst player on the pitch in all but one of cotterills games and the games he wasnt used, josh daniels played well v blackpool, and i cant remember who played in the cup game and hard to compare v oxford anyway
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