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Post by armchairfan on Nov 28, 2020 20:08:13 GMT 1
Again, eminently possible🤣! I probably need to adopt a low profile.... like yours perhaps 👍👍🤣🤣 please do Then again, perhaps not🤣!
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Post by Pilch on Nov 28, 2020 20:11:33 GMT 1
Then again, perhaps not🤣! i was your postman for quite a while, i see mark is doing it at the moment ;-)
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Post by armchairfan on Nov 28, 2020 20:23:07 GMT 1
Then again, perhaps not🤣! i was your postman for quite a while, i see mark is doing it at the moment ;-) Like all posties, a fine upstanding pillar of the community, I am sure🤣!
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Post by shrewblue on Nov 28, 2020 21:07:33 GMT 1
Looks like another ideal opportunity for a complete rebuild as only 7 players wil not be out of contract at the end of the season.
All players will be playing for contract extensions as with the effects of coronavirus and EFL squad size regulations it will be tougher to get a playing contract.
Interesting times and a darn good incentive to work hard and succeed for all the players
A time if ever there was one to prove your worth!
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 28, 2020 22:16:09 GMT 1
Looks like another ideal opportunity for a complete rebuild as only 7 players wil not be out of contract at the end of the season. All players will be playing for contract extensions as with the effects of coronavirus and EFL squad size regulations it will be tougher to get a playing contract. Interesting times and a darn good incentive to work hard and succeed for all the players A time if ever there was one to prove your worth! We have a few who, with hard work and dedication could attract a Championship position. It's a short career and no one should end with regrets that they didn't take it as far as it could go, let's hope that's with Shrewsbury Town.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Nov 28, 2020 23:48:09 GMT 1
Fans wanted passion after " dull man" Askey, you've got it now. Never short of opinion is Steve clearly, a good thing. This will be entertaining that's for sure. Can't see him being a fan of Cummings social media "antics" etc, strikes me as too old school for all that b******s, won't take passengers, good! Sam was a nice guy, Askey zero passion. Best appointment since Turner the second coming. Some players are in for a shock that's for sure. He's a former player of the original Wimbledon, aka the crazy gang, so I imagine he'll cope! Speaking of which, this appointment really does remind me of Gary Peters appointment. I was a bit sceptical at first, just because he's been out of the management game for a while, but he seems very enthusiastic, determined and his record is better than i'd thought. I get the sense that a lot of those individual errors that have plagued us all season won't be tolerated and there will be consequences
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Post by Pilch on Nov 29, 2020 0:36:40 GMT 1
Fans wanted passion after " dull man" Askey, you've got it now. Never short of opinion is Steve clearly, a good thing. This will be entertaining that's for sure. Can't see him being a fan of Cummings social media "antics" etc, strikes me as too old school for all that b******s, won't take passengers, good! Sam was a nice guy, Askey zero passion. Best appointment since Turner the second coming. Some players are in for a shock that's for sure. He's a former player of the original Wimbledon, aka the crazy gang, so I imagine he'll cope! Speaking of which, this appointment really does remind me of Gary Peters appointment. I was a bit sceptical at first, just because he's been out of the management game for a while, but he seems very enthusiastic, determined and his record is better than i'd thought. I get the sense that a lot of those individual errors that have plagued us all season won't be tolerated and there will be consequences hope hes better than wally downes, dennis wise, laurie sanchez, mick harford
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 29, 2020 0:42:34 GMT 1
Can we get john fashanu as centre forward---- now he's a tough un!!!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 29, 2020 9:56:28 GMT 1
Not listened to the interviews yet but does it mention anything about the chairman bending his arm to get back into manager and taking the job? Just the amount of time he's been out of the game that's all, just seems a bit of a strange one because of that. I would have thought he'd be happy taking it easy now (not sure whether he has been applying for vacant jobs in the meantime, mind). He's not an old man, and he's had a good long career break since Blues. That must have been a big pay off. If he's recharged his batteries and is raring to go again this could be perfect. No he's not, didn't say that. At times however, people do make the decision to enjoy the fruits of their labours a little earlier than most if the chance is there. Just that he has been out of the game for a bit. Four years is a good while.👍
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Post by scooter on Nov 29, 2020 10:05:43 GMT 1
He's not an old man, and he's had a good long career break since Blues. That must have been a big pay off. If he's recharged his batteries and is raring to go again this could be perfect. No he's not, didn't say that. At times however, people do make the decision to enjoy the fruits of their labours a little earlier than most if the chance is there. Just that he has been out of the game for a bit. Four years is a good while.👍 I expressed a slight similar concern, but to be fair it is only two and a half years out of the game. It is 5 years since he achieved any real success, but that was the last time in League One. I think we should get rid as soon as he gets us up to the Championship 😜
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 29, 2020 10:09:52 GMT 1
i was your postman for quite a while, i see mark is doing it at the moment ;-) Like all posties, a fine upstanding pillar of the community, I am sure🤣! I used to be a postman many moons ago, so I can indeed confirm this.
Great job, used to really enjoy it. They used to pay me by the hour though which I didn't quite understand as it meant I was never the quickest getting around and was more than happy to have a cup of tea and a chat whenever offered.👍
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 10:15:05 GMT 1
No he's not, didn't say that. At times however, people do make the decision to enjoy the fruits of their labours a little earlier than most if the chance is there. Just that he has been out of the game for a bit. Four years is a good while.👍 I expressed a slight similar concern, but to be fair it is only two and a half years out of the game. It is 5 years since he achieved any real success, but that was the last time in League One. I think we should get rid as soon as he gets us up to the Championship 😜 His time at Birmingham is very hard to judge. Blues fans slate him, but they have had six permanent managers in four years who were all apparently terrible so you have to wonder where the problem lies. Let's hope things start well today!
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 29, 2020 10:25:57 GMT 1
He will have been given lots of goals to achieve going forward. No doubt the first one is to get the club into the 3rd round draw with a win today. Doesnt matter how that's achieved but really needs to sign in with a win in your first game. Not that easy after only being installed 2 days ago.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 29, 2020 10:33:19 GMT 1
He will have been given lots of goals to achieve going forward. No doubt the first one is to get the club into the 3rd round draw with a win today. Doesnt matter how that's achieved but really needs to sign in with a win in your first game. Not that easy after only being installed 2 days ago. you dont think hes maybe had an eye on us recently ? i'd say he would have been scouring all league results for weeks / months looking for a potential job, and with his links to roland and a little bit of rumours from the past he may know more about us than we are led to believe, maybe even a little contact with the club off the record remember how we all knew what hurst was up too after he left
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 29, 2020 10:50:28 GMT 1
I expressed a slight similar concern, but to be fair it is only two and a half years out of the game. It is 5 years since he achieved any real success, but that was the last time in League One. I think we should get rid as soon as he gets us up to the Championship 😜 His time at Birmingham is very hard to judge. Blues fans slate him, but they have had six permanent managers in four years who were all apparently terrible so you have to wonder where the problem lies. Let's hope things start well today! Good old 'arry left them in a right mess.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Nov 29, 2020 10:51:05 GMT 1
His time at Birmingham is very hard to judge. Blues fans slate him, but they have had six permanent managers in four years who were all apparently terrible so you have to wonder where the problem lies. Let's hope things start well today! Good old 'arry left them in a right mess. Klopp would of struggled there.
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Post by shrewder on Nov 29, 2020 10:58:49 GMT 1
I expressed a slight similar concern, but to be fair it is only two and a half years out of the game. It is 5 years since he achieved any real success, but that was the last time in League One. I think we should get rid as soon as he gets us up to the Championship 😜 His time at Birmingham is very hard to judge. Blues fans slate him, but they have had six permanent managers in four years who were all apparently terrible so you have to wonder where the problem lies. Let's hope things start well today! I know another club that tends to slate their managers 😈
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Nov 29, 2020 13:18:13 GMT 1
Well having finally got around to listening to that interview I think its fair to say that the chairman has finally got his man. Took a while, mind. Hopefully a case of better late than never.👍
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 29, 2020 13:25:57 GMT 1
Last time he finally got his man it was GT so hopefully this will be as successful.
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Post by oldfan on Nov 29, 2020 17:16:56 GMT 1
100% record
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 29, 2020 18:38:52 GMT 1
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Post by harboroughshrew on Nov 29, 2020 20:10:41 GMT 1
Today's performance showed us what a poor squad Ricketts has left Cotterill with. Far too many older players ( with the honourable exception of Whalley), probably one one decent keeper, quite a few raw loanees and a group of more experienced players in their mid/late twenties who are seriously underperforming and devoid of confidence. At least Cotterill has been there and done it as a manager at this level and I think he needs to tell them a few home truths in the dressing room. We did not look like beating a side three leagues below us today until sanity prevailed and we brought on Udoh and Cummings.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 29, 2020 20:23:22 GMT 1
funny that no one wanted to count a good solid performance away to cambridge but todays debacle is already ticked off as a win ;-)
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Post by Pilch on Nov 29, 2020 20:28:50 GMT 1
Today's performance showed us what a poor squad Ricketts has left Cotterill with. Far too many older players ( with the honourable exception of Whalley), probably one one decent keeper, quite a few raw loanees and a group of more experienced players in their mid/late twenties who are seriously underperforming and devoid of confidence. At least Cotterill has been there and done it as a manager at this level and I think he needs to tell them a few home truths in the dressing room. We did not look like beating a side three leagues below us today until sanity prevailed and we brought on Udoh and Cummings. would we have won today without sarkik and goldburn becoming available again ? i've always said you need a lot a luck in football, and it seems steve has already more than sam this season i suppose lets hope it stays that way
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Post by chirkshrew on Nov 29, 2020 21:25:42 GMT 1
Sam's had a bit of luck---- the board sacked him🤣🤣🤣👍
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Post by ssshrew on Nov 29, 2020 22:11:44 GMT 1
We certainly wouldn’t have won without our goalkeeper today that’s for sure.
Although we shouldn’t forget they had two goal line clearances as well.
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Post by jacksdad on Nov 29, 2020 22:33:59 GMT 1
I do find it amusing that under Sam the Man there were many on here observing that we had a quality group of players that Sam was playing out of position, a squad with potential that the manager wasn't getting the most out of. Now after today's game, the narrative from some appears to be what a shower of sh*t Steve has inherited, aged players, short term loanees and an unfit squad low on confidence etc...
This is not a criticism of either view more an observation of how fickle we fans can be....I'm no expert but I don't think too much can be taken from today's result other than a nice deposit in the bank with another very welcome pay day in early January.
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Post by martinshrew on Nov 29, 2020 22:40:10 GMT 1
I do find it amusing that under Sam the Man there were many on here observing that we had a quality group of players that Sam was playing out of position, a squad with potential that the manager wasn't getting the most out of. Now after today's game, the narrative from some appears to be what a shower of sh*t Steve has inherited, aged players, short term loanees and an unfit squad low on confidence etc... This is not a criticism of either view more an observation of how fickle we fans can be....I'm no expert but I don't think too much can be taken from today's result other than a nice deposit in the bank with another very welcome pay day in early January. I think he's inherited such unbalance across everything. Unbalance in age of the squad, fitness of the squad, positions. Our best outlets are Pugh & Whalley yet we'll struggle to play either if we play three at the back (unless they're out of position). Only way around it would be 3-4-3 with Pugh & Whalley either side of a striker. Think I'd go the City / Liverpool route and play 4-3-3 with Whalley / Pugh with side of Clarke. Special mention for miller who looks like he could be a real find. Proper intent going for forwards!
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Post by SamHarvey on Nov 29, 2020 23:31:11 GMT 1
Agree, Miller looked good when he came on. I know we all blamed the players today, whereas recently we would blame Sam. But at the end of the day he brought them in. He may have been unfortunate in that they failed to perform but they were his picks, and the board backed him. SC will be cut some slack as a result, and the players will take the criticism now, and rightly so.
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Post by shrewblue on Nov 30, 2020 7:41:32 GMT 1
The more you look at the upcoming fixture list and the lack of time to recover between games, the more daunting you realise the task is, that Steve Cotterill faces.
Not until the New Year do we get a few clear weeks without a midweek fixture to allow recovery time and training/ planning time. Ironically, now we have progressed to round three of the F.A. Cup, Oxford UTD away has to be re-organised so another midweek game is on the cards. It is full on.
The hope is the injured like Pyke, Clarke and others start to come back into the fold, all be they not match fit immediately.
January gives us an opportunity to rejig the priorities and balance for the squad but given the pressure of fixtures we almost certainly will need a good size squad for rotation all with the plan of consolidating our position in league one as the priority, if this can be achieved another huge rebuild beckons in the summer as only 7 players will still be in contract and I wouldn't bet they will still be here come summer either. One would hope by January 31 SC knows if any others on our current staff should be offered new contracts.
I expect a leaner meaner squad for next season , at the very least much fitter come start of 21/22 season and definitely more balanced towards a system that SC sees us having success with.
It is for all the reasons above BC and RW had no choice but to go with a seasoned professional manager, a rookie I just do not feel would have cut the mustard. So all power to the decision made to bring in Steve Cotterill, he is not a miracle worker and will need a fair slice of luck and good fortune, he started well yesterday getting a result from a dour game which could have gone either way.
No doubt this is going to be a roller coaster season with avoiding relegation as the target. Wins like yesterday will give us confidence, but the league games coming up will be a lot tougher starting with a fresh from having no game this past weekend Accrington Stanley, who have a decent away record, recently beating Northampton away 1-0 and before that won 3-0 at Swindon who we drew 3-3 at home with.
We can but get behind the team and our new Manager who will no doubt announce his new back room team very soon with John Pemberton who was relieved of his Managerial duties at Chesterfield last week (all be it by mutual consent) a likely candidate, as Steve's number two but who knows? Steve is his own man.
More than ever the club needs us behind them in every way and that includes being more positive on the message boards and social media if we are all going to contribute to success and staving off relegation, thus then leaving a platform to build on and springboard towards a promotion push next season, and yes I do believe if we can stay in Division one this season promotion to the Championship will be the number one goal for season 2021/2022 or Steve Cotterill would not have signed such a long contract to see the mission out. He like us all wants another promotion. C.O.Y.B.
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