mcrshrew
Midland League Division Two
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Post by mcrshrew on Sept 7, 2020 8:29:42 GMT 1
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Post by Dancin on Sept 7, 2020 10:59:48 GMT 1
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Post by Dancin on Sept 7, 2020 11:11:06 GMT 1
Apparently the live feed didn't cover the minutes silence and the names being read out?!
Due to some relatives of the deceased not being present it will be held again this afternoon.
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Post by shrewd67 on Sept 7, 2020 12:10:15 GMT 1
A subject close to me, I’ll be following with interest.
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Post by Dancin on Sept 8, 2020 16:24:42 GMT 1
Some emergency services response at the time of the incident not looking to good following today's evidence.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 9, 2020 7:46:12 GMT 1
Some emergency services response at the time of the incident not looking to good following today's evidence. i have read an article about it, sadly seems rather shambolic and may have cost lives.
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Post by wakemanender on Sept 9, 2020 12:13:30 GMT 1
A lot now coming out that we didnt know as was the case with the Grenfell fire. A lot of questions to be answered and retraining required by our emergency services and event security companies.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Sept 10, 2020 9:16:00 GMT 1
Some emergency services response at the time of the incident not looking to good following today's evidence. i have read an article about it, sadly seems rather shambolic and may have cost lives. Can you share that, is it online?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Sept 10, 2020 11:23:04 GMT 1
i have read an article about it, sadly seems rather shambolic and may have cost lives. Can you share that, is it online? some of the responce times need to be put in the context of operational procedures with regards to terrorists putting secondry delayed bombs at the sites of bomings to kill emergency responders. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/sep/08/greater-manchester-force-had-no-plan-to-police-arena-on-night-of-bombingwww.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/27/manchester-arena-bombing-fire-service-arrived-two-hours-late-says-reportwww.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54071621BTP (British Ttandport Police" "Following the blast, BTP declared a major incident at 22:39 but they did not communicate this to GMP (Greater MAanchester Police) and there was no attempt to integrate communications at the arena. The inquiry heard the BTP officer, who thought he was acting as operational commander, was in Blackpool when the bomb went off.He a taxi to Manchester but "by the time he arrived the need for an immediate response had long since passed". Mr Greaney said it appeared "no one acted as a BTP operational commander for the policing response to the bombing". "Only one paramedic was at the scene of the Manchester Arena bombing for the first 40 minutes after the explosion, an inquiry into the attack was told. Twenty-two people were killed and hundreds more injured when Salman Abedi detonated a suicide bomb as 14,000 fans left the arena in May 2017. The inquiry heard the sole paramedic had arrived in the arena foyer 18 minutes after the bomb went off. But at least eight ambulances had arrived nearby after 40 minutes." "The first fire engine, which had stretchers, arrived at Manchester Arena two hours and six minutes after the explosion." "The final person was evacuated from the City Room - where the bombing happened - at 23:40 on a stretcher "made of cardboard and a crowd control barrier". "The inquiry also heard how John Atkinson, who was killed in the bombing, was only evacuated from the scene 46 minutes after the blast on a makeshift stretcher to a triage area nearby. He remained there for another 24 minutes but chest compressions were only started on him one hour and 15 minutes after he was first injured in the blast."
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Post by Dancin on Oct 2, 2020 9:53:52 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Oct 2, 2020 10:14:08 GMT 1
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Post by Dancin on Dec 3, 2020 10:34:04 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 11:56:49 GMT 1
How come BTP are responsible and why should police be manning the venue foyer? Been to many concerts over the years and never seen police involved in security. 👍
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Post by Dancin on Dec 3, 2020 12:11:36 GMT 1
How come BTP are responsible and why should police be manning the venue foyer? Been to many concerts over the years and never seen police involved in security. 👍 It's all to do with Victoria Train station underneath the venue and the accesses, at least three, to and from the venue. I believe there was an agreement that BTP would cover the venue not GMP. BTP being grilled at the moment here
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 12:44:35 GMT 1
How come BTP are responsible and why should police be manning the venue foyer? Been to many concerts over the years and never seen police involved in security. 👍 It's all to do with Victoria Train station underneath the venue and the accesses, at least three, to and from the venue. I believe there was an agreement that BTP would cover the venue not GMP. BTP being grilled at the moment hereThank you 👍
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Post by Dancin on Jan 13, 2021 17:08:54 GMT 1
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Post by servernaside on Jan 13, 2021 18:55:04 GMT 1
Poor babies obviously feeling lonely and homesick for Libya.
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Post by Dancin on Jan 18, 2021 12:16:44 GMT 1
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Post by Dancin on Jan 18, 2021 16:22:24 GMT 1
Just been announced that the issue above will be relooked at by both both sets of experts, i.e. the Inquiry's and Saffie's Family experts. They will work together to fully establish the facts. Once looked at further evidence/report will be given again to the inquiry at a later date.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 18, 2021 17:07:11 GMT 1
We do have a number of high security prisons - they should have been in separate ones.
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Post by Dancin on Feb 12, 2021 14:04:48 GMT 1
MI5 witness to give evidence anonymouslyUnsurprisingly it hasn't gone down well with the families. "Families of the 22 people murdered in the 2017 bombing had argued against the move, feeling it would not deliver an "open and fair inquiry"."
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Post by Dancin on Jun 11, 2021 13:10:40 GMT 1
Bomber's brother denied immunityShould be an interesting day when he does appear "Mr Abedi is expected to be served with a legal notice soon which will "require" his attendance in person at the inquiry and while he will be entitled not to answer questions on the grounds of self-incrimination, he will have to justify why and on what grounds he is refusing to answer."
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Post by Pilch on Jun 11, 2021 20:40:29 GMT 1
slightly off at a tangent, the Arndale Manchester bombing, was on June 15 1996, the same day England beat Scotland 2-0 in the euros
I guess security will be extra tight next week
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Post by Dancin on Nov 3, 2022 15:56:44 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 3, 2022 16:08:33 GMT 1
what happened to his brother who legged it to Libya did were get him back ?
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Post by Dancin on Nov 3, 2022 16:15:01 GMT 1
what happened to his brother who legged it to Libya did were get him back ? No, still at large
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 3, 2022 16:45:01 GMT 1
what happened to his brother who legged it to Libya did were get him back ? No, still at large thanks for that. not a suprise but still disapointing .
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Post by davycrockett on Nov 3, 2022 18:44:22 GMT 1
slightly off at a tangent, the Arndale Manchester bombing, was on June 15 1996, the same day England beat Scotland 2-0 in the euros I guess security will be extra tight next week In the early 80’s I worked for Grand Met and for a short time ran Seftons bar ironically named after the grey mare killed by the IRA in Hyde Park bombing. Some 10+ years later it was destroyed in the blast (name had changed to Paddy’s Rat and Carrot). Scary thoughts. Coincidently I was also in The Tavern in the Town in Brum two days before the Birmingham Pub Bombings 😨 pubs-of-manchester.blogspot.com/2010/01/seftons-corporation-street.html
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Post by Dancin on Nov 4, 2022 8:44:19 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Nov 4, 2022 14:11:40 GMT 1
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