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Jan 31, 2020 12:27:31 GMT 1
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Post by philharvey on Jan 31, 2020 12:27:31 GMT 1
I would say that It would be a good move, do the business here and then he can attract the bigger clubs.
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Jan 31, 2020 12:30:48 GMT 1
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Post by chirkshrew on Jan 31, 2020 12:30:48 GMT 1
Docherty defo on his way----- Tommy that is !!!🤣🤣
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Post by northwestman on Jan 31, 2020 12:32:56 GMT 1
Perhaps the money accrued from the FA Cup is being used to try and push this through permanently. I reckon a deal with Rangers could be agreed but whether Docherty is prepared to come here permanently is very doubtful As I suggested in an earlier comment, perhaps Docherty could be persuaded to come here permanently if he has a release clause inserted into his contract allowing other Clubs to talk to him so long as they are prepared to pay an agreed fee. SR advantage of one of these release clauses himself when at Swansea, so he is already familiar with them. "After 103 appearances in total for Swansea, Ricketts moved to Championship club Hull City on 14 July 2006 on a three-year contract. Hull triggered his release clause by paying £300,000". (Wiki). news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/5168774.stm
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Post by venceremos on Jan 31, 2020 12:44:05 GMT 1
Much as I'd like to see Docherty return, it would surely only be a loan deal. Great, but not really helping us build for next season. I'd rather see Laurent sign a new contract.
Don't want to see Beckles go either. If any of the CBs got injured or suspended, we'd be using players out of position as cover.
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Jan 31, 2020 12:52:56 GMT 1
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Post by shrewd67 on Jan 31, 2020 12:52:56 GMT 1
Much as I'd like to see Docherty return, it would surely only be a loan deal. Great, but not really helping us build for next season. I'd rather see Laurent sign a new contract. Don't want to see Beckles go either. If any of the CBs got injured or suspended, we'd be using players out of position as cover. My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent.
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Jan 31, 2020 12:55:50 GMT 1
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 31, 2020 12:55:50 GMT 1
Much as I'd like to see Docherty return, it would surely only be a loan deal. Great, but not really helping us build for next season. I'd rather see Laurent sign a new contract. Don't want to see Beckles go either. If any of the CBs got injured or suspended, we'd be using players out of position as cover. My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent. If we got half decent money for Laurent & Beckles, signed Docherty and had Sears/Vincelot coming back from injury that would be a cracking end to the window. Docherty > Laurent
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Post by venceremos on Jan 31, 2020 13:07:21 GMT 1
Much as I'd like to see Docherty return, it would surely only be a loan deal. Great, but not really helping us build for next season. I'd rather see Laurent sign a new contract. Don't want to see Beckles go either. If any of the CBs got injured or suspended, we'd be using players out of position as cover. My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent. So you think we should conduct transfers on the basis of a single after-the-Lord-Mayor's-show league game? I saw two outstanding performances from Laurent against higher league teams and there are Championship clubs interested. Would his signing a new contract be better for the club than having Docherty until May? It's hardly worth asking the question. And Docherty wasn't consistent.
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Post by venceremos on Jan 31, 2020 13:09:58 GMT 1
My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent. If we got half decent money for Laurent & Beckles, signed Docherty and had Sears/Vincelot coming back from injury that would be a cracking end to the window. Docherty > Laurent You reckon? I thought you'd been quite sensible on here lately after all the brexity nonsense. Laurent is attracting attention from several Championship clubs. Docherty quite clearly isn't. But you think he's the better player. I like both but facts are facts.
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Post by shrewd67 on Jan 31, 2020 13:21:23 GMT 1
My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent. So you think we should conduct transfers on the basis of a single after-the-Lord-Mayor's-show league game? I saw two outstanding performances from Laurent against higher league teams and there are Championship clubs interested. Would his signing a new contract be better for the club than having Docherty until May? It's hardly worth asking the question. And Docherty wasn't consistent. This isn’t the first ‘After the Lord Mayors Show’ performance. It’s clearly a matter of opinion but I and many others felt Docherty was consistent; 10 goals, 11 assists and player of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 13:28:04 GMT 1
Short term as a loan signing - no thanks, hardly laced a boot up in anger this season and he’d be an expensive luxury who’s nowhere near match fit
Long term as a permanent signing and with next season and the future in mind & I’d take him all day long
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Jan 31, 2020 13:30:03 GMT 1
Perm makes a lot of sence
Loan only does if some clubs **** us by taking Norburn and/or Larent late in window.
Do like the idea of him coming back...
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Post by Pilch on Jan 31, 2020 13:33:07 GMT 1
My comment would be that both Beckles and Laurent were in the team that were so woeful against Gillingham, Docherty was very consistent. So you think we should conduct transfers on the basis of a single after-the-Lord-Mayor's-show league game? I saw two outstanding performances from Laurent against higher league teams and there are Championship clubs interested. Would his signing a new contract be better for the club than having Docherty until May? It's hardly worth asking the question. And Docherty wasn't consistent. its amazing how docherty gets better and better the more time goes by if I didnt know better I'd be thinking he was part of the squad from 2 seasons back and not the awful one from last season consistant he certainly wasn't, no-one was
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Jan 31, 2020 13:34:14 GMT 1
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Jan 31, 2020 13:34:14 GMT 1
Just imagine Laurent and Norburn in front of the back five, and Doherty, McAleney and Lang causing havoc up top, with Edwards, Cummings, Whalley, Udoh and Vela all competing to get in. Insane options.
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Jan 31, 2020 13:35:42 GMT 1
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Post by philharvey on Jan 31, 2020 13:35:42 GMT 1
Dream team !!
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 31, 2020 13:38:11 GMT 1
If we got half decent money for Laurent & Beckles, signed Docherty and had Sears/Vincelot coming back from injury that would be a cracking end to the window. Docherty > Laurent You reckon? I thought you'd been quite sensible on here lately after all the brexity nonsense.  Laurent is attracting attention from several Championship clubs. Docherty quite clearly isn't. But you think he's the better player. I like both but facts are facts. Nonsense that's taking a step in the right direction finally! If Laurent's agent has any sense he's not going to advise him to sign for us, so we may as well grab a fee now if it's half decent.
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Jan 31, 2020 13:45:34 GMT 1
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Post by cheggersdrinkspop on Jan 31, 2020 13:45:34 GMT 1
You reckon? I thought you'd been quite sensible on here lately after all the brexity nonsense.  Laurent is attracting attention from several Championship clubs. Docherty quite clearly isn't. But you think he's the better player. I like both but facts are facts. Nonsense that's taking a step in the right direction finally! If Laurent's agent has any sense he's not going to advise him to sign for us, so we may as well grab a fee now if it's half decent. Firstly I pressed the like button by mistake. No way can you say that you would be happy to lose one of our better, fully fit players in the middle of the season and replace him with a player who has not played any first team football for 6 months, coupled with a player who has had very little game time in 12 months.
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Jan 31, 2020 13:46:49 GMT 1
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Post by TheFoz on Jan 31, 2020 13:46:49 GMT 1
You reckon? I thought you'd been quite sensible on here lately after all the brexity nonsense.  Laurent is attracting attention from several Championship clubs. Docherty quite clearly isn't. But you think he's the better player. I like both but facts are facts. Nonsense that's taking a step in the right direction finally! If Laurent's agent has any sense he's not going to advise him to sign for us, so we may as well grab a fee now if it's half decent. Agree with that. The way Laurent is playing and his age, I can’t see him playing for us next season. If the right offer comes in, he has to go, unfortunately.
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Post by Pilch on Jan 31, 2020 13:59:04 GMT 1
You reckon? I thought you'd been quite sensible on here lately after all the brexity nonsense. Laurent is attracting attention from several Championship clubs. Docherty quite clearly isn't. But you think he's the better player. I like both but facts are facts. Nonsense that's taking a step in the right direction finally! If Laurent's agent has any sense he's not going to advise him to sign for us, so we may as well grab a fee now if it's half decent. if his agent has any sense he will tell him to sign a pre contract agreement for the club with the biggest offer
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 31, 2020 14:11:18 GMT 1
I cannot get my head around anyone that doesn’t want Docherty. I cannot remember many players since I started watching town in 2000 that gave a record of 10 goals & 11 assists in 50 games! Of course he had poor games as well, else we really wouldn’t stand any chance today.
Josh Laurent is a slightly different player & his Liverpool performance was the height of his spell here. He’s evidently better this season and I’d like to keep him. But just to compare he’s scored 8 and assisted 8 in 88. He was also anonymously s**t for most of last season, and if I dare (having been shot down a week ago) still produces anonymous performances this, just much less often.
Let’s have both if our CEO and chairman think it’s affordable, eh..
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Post by Pilch on Jan 31, 2020 14:21:14 GMT 1
I cannot get my head around anyone that doesn’t want Docherty. I cannot remember many players since I started watching town in 2000 that gave a record of 10 goals & 11 assists in 50 games! Of course he had poor games as well, else we really wouldn’t stand any chance today. Josh Laurent is a slightly different player & his Liverpool performance was the height of his spell here. He’s evidently better this season and I’d like to keep him. But just to compare he’s scored 8 and assisted 8 in 88. He was also anonymously s**t for most of last season, and if I dare (having been shot down a week ago) still produces anonymous performances this, just much less often. Let’s have both if our CEO and chairman think it’s affordable, eh.. rochdale tomorrow last season town were absolutely dire there for 90 minutes, including docherty, I remember chatting to ricketts about docherty at rochdale and how bad he was, ricketts agreed Docherty scored our goal in stoppage time with a tap in you're using that goal now to partly big him up its not the full picture is it
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 31, 2020 14:24:36 GMT 1
I cannot get my head around anyone that doesn’t want Docherty. I cannot remember many players since I started watching town in 2000 that gave a record of 10 goals & 11 assists in 50 games! Of course he had poor games as well, else we really wouldn’t stand any chance today. Josh Laurent is a slightly different player & his Liverpool performance was the height of his spell here. He’s evidently better this season and I’d like to keep him. But just to compare he’s scored 8 and assisted 8 in 88. He was also anonymously s**t for most of last season, and if I dare (having been shot down a week ago) still produces anonymous performances this, just much less often. Let’s have both if our CEO and chairman think it’s affordable, eh.. rochdale tomorrow last season town were absolutely dire there for 90 minutes, including docherty,  I remember chatting to ricketts about docherty at rochdale and how bad he was, ricketts agreed Docherty scored our goal in stoppage time with a tap in you're using that goal now to partly big him up its not the full picture is it So he played s**te (I acknowledged he wasn’t ALWAYS great) and still scored. Now Ricketts wants to sign Docherty again. That game is not the full picture, is it?
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Post by Pilch on Jan 31, 2020 14:36:01 GMT 1
rochdale tomorrow last season town were absolutely dire there for 90 minutes, including docherty, I remember chatting to ricketts about docherty at rochdale and how bad he was, ricketts agreed Docherty scored our goal in stoppage time with a tap in you're using that goal now to partly big him up its not the full picture is it So he played s**te (I acknowledged he wasn’t ALWAYS great) and still scored. Now Ricketts wants to sign Docherty again. That game is not the full picture, is it? I was replying to you as you said you couldn't get your head round it, I was giving a reason as to why some are very wary about docherty and might not want him, rangers certainly don't want him and it seems no one is knocking the door down to get him ps town are favourites at the bookies to win on tuesday the stats suggest it should be a cricket score in Liverpools favour without the full picture, no one would ever get their head around that !
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Post by venceremos on Jan 31, 2020 15:14:09 GMT 1
So you think we should conduct transfers on the basis of a single after-the-Lord-Mayor's-show league game? I saw two outstanding performances from Laurent against higher league teams and there are Championship clubs interested. Would his signing a new contract be better for the club than having Docherty until May? It's hardly worth asking the question. And Docherty wasn't consistent. This isn’t the first ‘After the Lord Mayors Show’ performance. It’s clearly a matter of opinion but I and many others felt Docherty was consistent; 10 goals, 11 assists and player of the season. Last season was worse than this one, have you forgotten that? I like Docherty; he was good and I'd have him back but calling him consistent is to rewrite history. As Pilch said, nobody was. There were plenty of anonymous performances mixed in with the good ones and looking only at his goals and assists doesn't dispel that. The notion that Docherty on loan is an improvement on Laurent under contract is crazy.
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Jan 31, 2020 16:56:44 GMT 1
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Post by Scarecrow on Jan 31, 2020 16:59:52 GMT 1
That's a shame but i got the feeling he never really wanted to come here otherwise he'd have taken our offer earlier on in the window. Wish him all the best.
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Jan 31, 2020 17:04:01 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2020 17:04:01 GMT 1
That closes the book on will he/wont he rejoin us. I have a feeling that's it in terms of any more dealings at the GM today.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 31, 2020 17:07:01 GMT 1
He has had plenty of time to come to us if he really wanted to. Wouldnt really want him here if it was just a last resort for him.
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Post by staffordshrew on Jan 31, 2020 17:28:18 GMT 1
Don't be too hard on him, it's a short career. He has to take what he considers the best option, especially after wasting half a season so far and he has an agent whispering in his ear.
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Post by wakemanender on Jan 31, 2020 19:35:45 GMT 1
Don't be too hard on him, it's a short career. He has to take what he considers the best option, especially after wasting half a season so far and he has an agent whispering in his ear. I would agree that agents do have a big say. Obviously the bigger the deal the bigger their cut. Im looking at it purely from a supporters selfish point of view in wanting players at the club who want to be here like Dave Edwards.
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