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Post by Mortgagehound on Dec 27, 2018 1:45:48 GMT 1
Well that was fun. What was Sam Ricketts actually watching? For the first 30 minutes (just like at our place before the sending off) Accrington were probably the best footballing team we have faced all season. Honestly, they both times & Wycombe are the only team to have impressed me all season long. Weird observation if you ask me, Sam. As for mine. The all too frequent away day opening half an hour of dross that takes the game away from us. Sure, undoubtedly an improved 2nd half but so it bloody should have been, and improvement on the spineless first period was not particularly hard. Accrington still had chances, probably more than us even if we did have ‘more’ of the half. Holloway being ill is a nice excuse for today (I’m not saying that’s a lie) but I’ve seen him play like that too many times before so I’m assuming he’s got low immunity for contracting sickness that makes him unarsed & s**te at football in equal measure - play to the whistle man, stop moaning. Meanwhile Docherty was just as bad - the fact his mistake topped the truly pathetic opening goal was conceded says an awful lot. Grant was way off it too. Burton, Wycombe & today really show how a narrow pitch and effective scouting nullify us with ease, no room for Grant & there is no room for us to play. Norburn must have had a heavy Christmas too. Fair play, he’s hit & miss in the extreme but I felt Laurent worked his b******s off for the other 3. Fejiri was bright. At the back Sadler & Waterfall were not. We don’t keep clean sheets, something has to give back there. Ricketts didn’t score highly in my estimations either. Our entire formation was bypassed each and every single time their keeper bowled the ball out wide and Holloway, Fejiri & Laurent out of the game. By the time Norburn tried to cover that ground, another pass went by him too and Accrington could pass around small numbers. Jordan Clark was loving it. Don’t even get me started on our offsides. Still, we’ll still be alright. Decent on our day but never away from home. Good post.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:09:19 GMT 1
The thing that frightens me about Ricketts, is like Askey, he thinks LJL is the answer. . Possibly so, but neither manager signed him? 4 management teams have thought he’s the answer...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:31:14 GMT 1
Focusing on JLL (who did well yesterday) detracts from the continued poor performances from Norburn and the rather alarming dip in form from Doc.
I agree that generally Laurent works hard, but he lacks any real quality for the advanced role he plays. He looked really poor yesterday.
This Human Performance Analysist we have really needs to get to work on why we look like a relegation team away from home. This form puts pressure on the home form and it will only take a couple of defeats at home before we get dragged back into the bottom 4.
I think what's really disappointing is that there has been no 'bounce' from appointing a new manager, no real 'zip' or sense of players trying to prove themselves. There appears to be something missing.
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Post by shrewder on Dec 27, 2018 9:46:50 GMT 1
We sometimes need to remember the reason these are League 1 players is because they lack consistency. If any players performed well all the time then they probably would be playing at a much higher level.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 9:49:53 GMT 1
We sometimes need to remember the reason these are League 1 players is because they lack consistency. If any players performed well all the time then they probably would be playing at a much higher level. Sure, I can forgive inconsistency in quality, technical ability and other footballing attributes. I won't forgive inconsistency in a lack of effort, desire and pride.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 27, 2018 10:10:29 GMT 1
Possibly so, but neither manager signed him? 4 management teams have thought he’s the answer... well personally 4 management teams have got it wrong
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 27, 2018 10:12:43 GMT 1
yet another time when town failed to turn up for prolonged periods in a game
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Post by ssshrew on Dec 27, 2018 10:30:12 GMT 1
I just wonder how they would have been if they had met up and trained together on Christmas Day to keep the Coventry momentum going? We will never know of course and hindsight is a wonderful thing.
BUT they are professional footballers who get a longer break than most in the summer when they can relax and wind down. I wonder where young Docherty was for the day? Presumably not back in Scotland with his family? Changes to routine like this can be very disruptive. No excuse for yesterday but possibly a contributing factor?
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Post by callum on Dec 27, 2018 10:32:47 GMT 1
Focusing on JLL (who did well yesterday) detracts from the continued poor performances from Norburn and the rather alarming dip in form from Doc. I agree that generally Laurent works hard, but he lacks any real quality for the advanced role he plays. He looked really poor yesterday. This Human Performance Analysist we have really needs to get to work on why we look like a relegation team away from home. This form puts pressure on the home form and it will only take a couple of defeats at home before we get dragged back into the bottom 4. I think what's really disappointing is that there has been no 'bounce' from appointing a new manager, no real 'zip' or sense of players trying to prove themselves. There appears to be something missing. Almost the same as when Simpson was appointed, there was no improvement then.
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Post by tvor on Dec 27, 2018 10:52:02 GMT 1
A total of four full backs, who are all average at best. Two of them played over 60 times combined in League 1 last season for a side that finished 3rd and one of the others played 30 times for the side that won the playoffs.
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Post by tvor on Dec 27, 2018 10:55:19 GMT 1
Poor performance first half but we are a mid table league 1 team. A top 10 squad underperforming. People keep saying things likes this, but they can only keep saying it for so long before it becomes apparent that we're not a mid-table team or an under performing team.
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Post by ambergambler on Dec 27, 2018 11:15:34 GMT 1
I just wonder how they would have been if they had met up and trained together on Christmas Day to keep the Coventry momentum going? We will never know of course and hindsight is a wonderful thing. BUT they are professional footballers who get a longer break than most in the summer when they can relax and wind down. I wonder where young Docherty was for the day? Presumably not back in Scotland with his family? Changes to routine like this can be very disruptive. No excuse for yesterday but possibly a contributing factor? They trained Boxing Day morning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 11:18:29 GMT 1
Poor performance first half but we are a mid table league 1 team. A top 10 squad underperforming. People keep saying things likes this, but they can only keep saying it for so long before it becomes apparent that we're not a mid-table team or an under performing team. Exactly, look at our forward line and defence, does that look like a top 10 team/squad? Even in midfield where we are strongest, that is debatable, Grant & Docherty have been quality in the main this season but the rest? We may have numbers but it doesn't mean it's quality.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 11:35:20 GMT 1
I sometimes wonder which planet some of the comments on here come from. The point Rickets was making about Stanley not being that good today was that ....... they were average and we were poor ! A point earlier was made about .......oh Rickets hadn’t changed our away form.......well, hello...... he has to be sure what this team can do and the bottle they have of not, before he decides on what he needs to do in January. Some of comments on here really do amaze me. My view is he needs an old head in midfield to gel with the inexperienced players. Rickets knows what he is doing which is more than the other bloke did. So what is that personal experience you talk of? I’m still waiting.
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Post by blueboy62 on Dec 27, 2018 11:45:27 GMT 1
Focusing on JLL (who did well yesterday) detracts from the continued poor performances from Norburn and the rather alarming dip in form from Doc. I agree that generally Laurent works hard, but he lacks any real quality for the advanced role he plays. He looked really poor yesterday. This Human Performance Analysist we have really needs to get to work on why we look like a relegation team away from home. This form puts pressure on the home form and it will only take a couple of defeats at home before we get dragged back into the bottom 4. I think what's really disappointing is that there has been no 'bounce' from appointing a new manager, no real 'zip' or sense of players trying to prove themselves. There appears to be something missing. Almost the same as when Simpson was appointed, there was no improvement then. We improved immediately when Coyne and Ramsey over AND they kept it going until Rickets over. We could hardly expect the 'new manager bounce'as we were already a winning team but We have since flat-lined at best and are now in danger of going backwards. Far too many long hopeful balls hoofed forward. Too much dithering in defence and an alarming lack of understanding at times with the central defenders. We have no width and we've stopped trying to play good football. Rickets will obviously apply his own methods but it seems the players are taking time to adjust. The feel-good factor we had under Coyne and Ramsey is rapidly disappearing and we're in danger of heading back to the Askey era of inconsistency. One good performance followed by a terrible one. A good 45 minutes followed by a poor 45 minutes or vice versa. You would expect us to lose at Sunderland on Saturday but the way we are at the moment you never know. The players might be motivated enough in front of a 45,000 crowd to put in a 90 minute shift. I hope they do and I hope we get 3 points but they also have to do it in front of 3,000 fans on a wet and windy afternoon against 'unfashionable' opposition. That would impress me more.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 27, 2018 11:53:22 GMT 1
I think there was an improvement and I think that was brought about by Coyne. I think the tempo and commitment has improved since and as a result so have our performances. Ricketts has come in but I get the impression things are now pretty much ticking along as they did under Coyne. More so since he then went on to appoint Coyne and Ramsay as first team coaches. From what he said early on I didn't get the impression he was going to come in and start making wholesale changes. Perhaps he will in time but for the moment I didn't expect that at all.
Lets see how we now react after yesterday. Grant and Docherty have been superb of late for example, yet not so much yesterday. It happens. They will have off days. Its just about how many they look to string together. Hopefully not too many. Hopefully they can turn it around for the next game and we see an improvement (as difficult a game as it is).
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Post by staffordshrew on Dec 27, 2018 12:14:56 GMT 1
I think there was an improvement and I think that was brought about by Coyne. I think the tempo and commitment has improved since and as a result so have our performances. Ricketts has come in but I get the impression things are now pretty much ticking along as they did under Coyne. More so since he then went on to appoint Coyne and Ramsay as first team coaches. From what he said early on I didn't get the impression he was going to come in and start making wholesale changes. Perhaps he will in time but for the moment I didn't expect that at all. Lets see how we now react after yesterday. Grant and Docherty have been superb of late for example, yet not so much yesterday. It happens. They will have off days. Its just about how many they look to string together. Hopefully not too many. Hopefully they can turn it around for the next game and we see an improvement (as difficult a game as it is). We usually win the difficult games - It's the Shrewsbury way. Ricketts happy to keep the DC and ER way ticking along, he seems a sharp cookie though and will develop his own style soon enough. Now has a season to consolidate, which is more than Askey was allowed.
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Post by Coops on Dec 27, 2018 20:51:52 GMT 1
We should have trained on Xmas morning like most footy teams do....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2018 21:12:57 GMT 1
I appreciate our away form is usually poor, but at least give it a go for 90 minutes. That's all we ask isn't it?
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Post by vixenshrew on Dec 27, 2018 21:43:14 GMT 1
I suspect Ricketts will learn from that and in future years insist his team does train on Christmas Day ( or at least themorning) before a Boxing Day game. They clearly were half asleep in the first half yesterday. From where I was sitting ( fairly central) I thought the only 3,that did put some effort during the first half were Norburn, Waterfall and Haynes. Second half they all came out fighting, but on the whole I thought Accrington wanted the win more than we did. I'm not convinced about Arnold. He might be able to save pens, but during play his ability imo is poor. Taking the game as a whole it was a fair outcome. Town can't expect to win if they only play half a game.
Hopefully we will see a difference this Saturday and get an away win. COYB
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Post by accordingtome on Dec 27, 2018 23:19:31 GMT 1
I sometimes wonder which planet some of the comments on here come from. The point Rickets was making about Stanley not being that good today was that ....... they were average and we were poor ! A point earlier was made about .......oh Rickets hadn’t changed our away form.......well, hello...... he has to be sure what this team can do and the bottle they have of not, before he decides on what he needs to do in January. Some of comments on here really do amaze me. My view is he needs an old head in midfield to gel with the inexperienced players.so Grant isn't experienced then? Rickets knows what he is doing which is more than the other bloke did.
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