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Post by buryshrew on Dec 26, 2018 18:44:05 GMT 1
Got to agree with those observing an improvement in the second half. First half was truly awful, second half we were merely poor. Still, based on our performance, I can only assume that the whole squad fully indulged and made the most of their Christmas Day off, so every cloud eh?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Dec 26, 2018 18:45:58 GMT 1
we had an idea of what Accrington could do to us in the last game, a combination of awful defending and having yet another poor sluggish first half, town were very lucky to not be at least three nil down at half time. towns defence were pulled all over the place. for 30 minutes were outplayed and out thought. in the second half with a mountain to climb town finally turned up
The last four games town have conceded 6 goals from a combination of defensive and goalkeeping errors if we are to stay up town have to sort out the defence that leaks like a sieve ,cut out the sloppy defending, start doing the basics right and get some points on there travels
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Dec 26, 2018 18:49:30 GMT 1
Midfield didn’t turn up today, were those four all drinking together yesterday?
Form has stayed the same as it was with Coyne, and even with Askey, so I think we can only judge Ricketts properly once he puts his own stamp on the squad in the transfer window.
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Post by supermac11 on Dec 26, 2018 19:12:28 GMT 1
Dreadful first 30 mins where we gave some bloke called Jordan Clark the run of the park (he was the best midfielder on show). Norburn was almost completely absent, whilst it might have been better had Docherty been been. We still don't look as fit as other teams and I'm still not convinced by the diamond formation other than it allows to shoehorn in our better players. Credit to Stanley though they were on the front foot from the start and sussed us.
There's enough in the squad not to go down but lets not fool ourselves that we are anything more than mediocre - there's still much to be done.
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Post by tvor on Dec 26, 2018 19:14:29 GMT 1
Form has stayed the same as it was with Coyne, and even with Askey, so I think we can only judge Ricketts properly once he puts his own stamp on the squad in the transfer window. The sign of a good coach/manager is also being able to improve the standard of the players they inherit.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Dec 26, 2018 19:18:54 GMT 1
need to wait for a transfer window to sort the mess out askey left behind !! Jesus Christ . Disagree .... He lost most of the squad that led us to third under hurst. Some of the players remained in Sadler, Bolton and Beckles. He signed some decent players in midfield. Posters have been waxing lyrical over Docherty and Grant. And he signed a potential non league gem in Fey. What was needed is time for this team to gell. Unfortunately most were unwilling to give Askey the time to do so ... yes that’s right Docherty who he didn’t play and fey who he also didn’t play . Seriously , I’ve heard a manager come out and say stuff like he changed formation last minute due to the weather on the day . He’s gone , he’s as dull as dishwater and he probably won’t get a job in the FL again. Next stop Telford . There is no decent goalkeeper at the club , nor a decent left back. Askey knew what the crack was when he came in .
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Post by tvor on Dec 26, 2018 19:39:44 GMT 1
John Coleman's post-match interview.
Sam Ricketts post-match interview.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 26, 2018 20:11:02 GMT 1
Ricketts out, coyne in!!! Is Askey still available? Nah, a quality manager like Askey won't be out of a job for long. Sure some League club has snapped him up after his hugely impressive time with Town. A man in demand I'm sure...
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Post by SamHarvey on Dec 26, 2018 20:23:39 GMT 1
Disagree .... He lost most of the squad that led us to third under hurst. Some of the players remained in Sadler, Bolton and Beckles. He signed some decent players in midfield. Posters have been waxing lyrical over Docherty and Grant. And he signed a potential non league gem in Fey. What was needed is time for this team to gell. Unfortunately most were unwilling to give Askey the time to do so ... yes that’s right Docherty who he didn’t play and fey who he also didn’t play . Seriously , I’ve heard a manager come out and say stuff like he changed formation last minute due to the weather on the day . He’s gone , he’s as dull as dishwater and he probably won’t get a job in the FL again. Next stop Telford . There is no decent goalkeeper at the club , nor a decent left back. Askey knew what the crack was when he came in . Sorry, just can’t agree with this. Despite not always starting, Fey and Docherty played or featured in almost every game. The only reason he became a tinker man was because of the pressure he came under due to fans putting it on him! He brought in a left back in Haynes and he inherited a player who won a spot in the EFL league one team of the year playing that position in Beckles. Granted, keepers are poor, but was always going to be a tough gig following Henderson.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 20:26:41 GMT 1
well hope today was a blip.... awful game... no passing or movement... bypassing midfield with hopeful punts to the channels... what a dire day
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Post by BlueAndAmber50 on Dec 26, 2018 20:38:01 GMT 1
One of the biggest issues with our squad at the moment is the inconsistently of our midfield 4 (who we don’t rotate) one week the 4 of them boss the game next week we can’t string a pass together and get over ran.
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Post by quinnster on Dec 26, 2018 21:20:39 GMT 1
Ok so Beccles wasn't playing, yet today there were four or five of him on the pitch today, slow to run, challenge, not chasing forward or tracking back...we missed Whalley's energetic style, we are better than this. Accy in fairness were up for it ...we waited till 2nd half before we started playing. Too little too late..
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Post by pughywasfree on Dec 26, 2018 21:23:30 GMT 1
Lots of fans overacting without watching the game. Poor performance first half but we are a mid table league 1 team. We will win some and lose some.
We need to servive and build for next season.
A top 10 squad underperforming.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 21:26:14 GMT 1
Askey out, Ricketts in. The away form is no different, which actually makes our overall form the same as when Askey left.
It's clear that this team lacks consistency, they also lack bottle, desire and belief when away from home.
I also don't get Rickett's comments about Stanley not being amazing in the way they football. Well Sam, what the f00k does that make us? They passed us off the park at times.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Dec 26, 2018 21:27:57 GMT 1
I hope Mr Ricketts has this lot in for trainng tomorrow morning and plays back video of the game.
The 770 deserve a refund after that performance. I won’t waste my cash on going to Sunderland
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Post by northwestman on Dec 26, 2018 21:30:24 GMT 1
I'm amazed that there is still a 7 point gap between us and the bottom 4, as apart from Oxford, Sc***horpe, Plymouth and Bradford all the other bottom 10 sides won.
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Post by lancsman on Dec 26, 2018 21:33:50 GMT 1
Askey out, Ricketts in. The away form is no different, which actually makes our overall form the same as when Askey left. It's clear that this team lacks consistency, they also lack bottle, desire and belief when away from home. I also don't get Rickett's comments about Stanley not being amazing in the way they football. Well Sam, what the f00k does that make us? They passed us off the park at times.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Dec 26, 2018 21:36:53 GMT 1
yes that’s right Docherty who he didn’t play and fey who he also didn’t play . Seriously , I’ve heard a manager come out and say stuff like he changed formation last minute due to the weather on the day . He’s gone , he’s as dull as dishwater and he probably won’t get a job in the FL again. Next stop Telford . There is no decent goalkeeper at the club , nor a decent left back. Askey knew what the crack was when he came in . Sorry, just can’t agree with this. Despite not always starting, Fey and Docherty played or featured in almost every game. The only reason he became a tinker man was because of the pressure he came under due to fans putting it on him! He brought in a left back in Haynes and he inherited a player who won a spot in the EFL league one team of the year playing that position in Beckles. Granted, keepers are poor, but was always going to be a tough gig following Henderson. fejiri Okenabirhie didn’t actually feature in a single minute of action during September , and didn’t even play more than 45 mins of a game until October . By his own admission he became a tinker man because of the weather .
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Post by lancsman on Dec 26, 2018 21:47:52 GMT 1
I sometimes wonder which planet some of the comments on here come from. The point Rickets was making about Stanley not being that good today was that ....... they were average and we were poor ! A point earlier was made about .......oh Rickets hadn’t changed our away form.......well, hello...... he has to be sure what this team can do and the bottle they have of not, before he decides on what he needs to do in January. Some of comments on here really do amaze me. My view is he needs an old head in midfield to gel with the inexperienced players.
Rickets knows what he is doing which is more than the other bloke did.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Dec 26, 2018 22:29:43 GMT 1
I sometimes wonder which planet some of the comments on here come from. The point Rickets was making about Stanley not being that good today was that ....... they were average and we were poor ! A point earlier was made about .......oh Rickets hadn’t changed our away form.......well, hello...... he has to be sure what this team can do and the bottle they have of not, before he decides on what he needs to do in January. Some of comments on here really do amaze me. My view is he needs an old head in midfield to gel with the inexperienced players. Rickets knows what he is doing which is more than the other bloke did. On what basis do you arrive at the conclusion that our new leader knows what he is doing?
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Post by lancsman on Dec 26, 2018 22:48:41 GMT 1
Ok, tell me on what basis you think he doesn’t know what he is doing ?
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Post by Mortgagehound on Dec 26, 2018 23:18:05 GMT 1
I rest my case m’lord
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Post by callum on Dec 26, 2018 23:28:29 GMT 1
Terrible performance from start to finish, I can't believe some think the second half was better,I certainly didn't see it.
The lack of width was there for all to see, except it would seem Mr Ricketts.
I thought Accrington,Jordan Clarke especially were excellent, although they didn't need to be anything to special to beat us today.
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Post by Dale on Dec 27, 2018 0:03:02 GMT 1
Poor game and conceding so many early goals away from home is starting to p**s me off now, as well as Mortgagehound trying to be funny about telling Ricketts to ‘get a grip’ because his beloved John Askey is no longer here.
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Post by gtismygod on Dec 27, 2018 0:20:34 GMT 1
Was optimistically hoping for a play off push but I think we’re a good 4-5 players light to be honest.
We’ve got two very poor keepers.
A total of four full backs, who are all average at best.
No decent quality to partner Fejiri.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 27, 2018 0:28:45 GMT 1
This season we only need to be better than 4 teams.
Accy aren't one of them.
A big problem we have is our only goalscorer can't play up top on his own apparently, but there's no formation with two up top that doesn't borrow a player we need somewhere else.
That, and we can't keep a clean sheet.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Dec 27, 2018 0:44:31 GMT 1
The thing that frightens me about Ricketts, is like Askey, he thinks LJL is the answer.
Day Shay Voo any Juan?
Roll on January, then I can boo the manager properly.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Dec 27, 2018 0:48:07 GMT 1
Oh, and much more importantly, did he give the fans a dose of clap? That picture of him shows he had thrust his hands deep into his pockets which is rather worrying.....for several reasons......
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Post by Dale on Dec 27, 2018 1:11:07 GMT 1
The thing that frightens me about Ricketts, is like Askey, he thinks LJL is the answer. . Possibly so, but neither manager signed him?
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Post by shrewswolf on Dec 27, 2018 1:19:13 GMT 1
Well that was fun. What was Sam Ricketts actually watching? For the first 30 minutes (just like at our place before the sending off) Accrington were probably the best footballing team we have faced all season. Honestly, they both times & Wycombe are the only team to have impressed me all season long. Weird observation if you ask me, Sam.
As for mine. The all too frequent away day opening half an hour of dross that takes the game away from us. Sure, undoubtedly an improved 2nd half but so it bloody should have been, and improvement on the spineless first period was not particularly hard. Accrington still had chances, probably more than us even if we did have ‘more’ of the half.
Holloway being ill is a nice excuse for today (I’m not saying that’s a lie) but I’ve seen him play like that too many times before so I’m assuming he’s got low immunity for contracting sickness that makes him unarsed & s**te at football in equal measure - play to the whistle man, stop moaning. Meanwhile Docherty was just as bad - the fact his mistake topped the truly pathetic opening goal was conceded says an awful lot. Grant was way off it too. Burton, Wycombe & today really show how a narrow pitch and effective scouting nullify us with ease, no room for Grant & there is no room for us to play. Norburn must have had a heavy Christmas too. Fair play, he’s hit & miss in the extreme but I felt Laurent worked his b******s off for the other 3.
Fejiri was bright. At the back Sadler & Waterfall were not. We don’t keep clean sheets, something has to give back there.
Ricketts didn’t score highly in my estimations either. Our entire formation was bypassed each and every single time their keeper bowled the ball out wide and Holloway, Fejiri & Laurent out of the game. By the time Norburn tried to cover that ground, another pass went by him too and Accrington could pass around small numbers. Jordan Clark was loving it.
Don’t even get me started on our offsides.
Still, we’ll still be alright. Decent on our day but never away from home.
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