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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 18:23:10 GMT 1
You know it makes sense, I have never known a goalkeeper to get so many second, to twenty chances.
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Post by jamo on Apr 6, 2017 19:18:10 GMT 1
The only fault in your openly biased opinion is that any replacement is demonstrably worse and less experienced, just at the time we least need experimentation.
Absolutely stupid suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:03:57 GMT 1
How individuals continue to defend this goalkeeper is laughable, he should have been rested weeks ago
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:14:03 GMT 1
You've got a direct line to your mate Roland haven't you? Maybe you should have a word with him
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Post by chameleon on Apr 6, 2017 21:17:26 GMT 1
I do think there could be a change between the sticks against Rochdale.
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Post by thesensationaljt on Apr 6, 2017 21:35:48 GMT 1
The goalkeeping in League Juan is really poor. I haven't seen Juan keeper sofa, where I've thought, "I wish we had him".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:47:02 GMT 1
Embarrassing that a man in his 50s would post this.
Even worse that his mate mortgagehound would then rock up to stroke the original poster's metaphorical cock.
FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 21:57:15 GMT 1
Embarrassing that a man in his 50s would post this. Even worse that his mate mortgagehound would then rock up to stroke the original poster's metaphorical cock. FFS. [b Embarrassing post by a self proclaimed top poster
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Post by northwestman on Apr 7, 2017 9:29:14 GMT 1
Well, he's certainly made a number of mistakes this season, and recently they seem to be getting more frequent.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 7, 2017 11:05:51 GMT 1
He's made some bad and costly mistakes recently, no doubt. But this campaign against him is tedious and the idea that he's being given another chance every time he makes a mistake is laughable. If goalkeepers were dropped every time they made a mistake you'd rarely see a keeper start two successive games.
Give it a rest. The manager will decide and I'll back that decision either way.
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Post by wakemanender on Apr 7, 2017 11:12:06 GMT 1
We don't see what goes on in training. The Manager said earlier in the season that he has two goalkeepers, not a first team and reserve keeper. For some reason PH doesn't now fancy Halstead. I have always been a big fan of Jason but have to now admit he needs a break. It does explain why there appeared to be interest in bringing the Grimsby keeper in during the transfer window. We now have two good keepers who are prone to mistakes but isn't that the case throughout our league. Its even the case with Joe Hart.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 7, 2017 11:22:26 GMT 1
We don't see what goes on in training. The Manager said earlier in the season that he has two goalkeepers, not a first team and reserve keeper. For some reason PH doesn't now fancy Halstead. I have always been a big fan of Jason but have to now admit he needs a break. It does explain why there appeared to be interest in bringing the Grimsby keeper in during the transfer window. We now have two good keepers who are prone to mistakes but isn't that the case throughout our league. Its even the case with Joe Hart. Fair comment, but if your goalkeeper has lost confidence then he needs resting. I think this all stems from that horrific injury which Leutwiler received against Grimsby. He was undoubtedly an excellent goalkeeper then with rumours that higher division clubs were interested in him but I don't think he's ever been quite the same goalkeeper since. Mind you, no longer having Goldson and NKP in front of you and them being replaced with El Abd, McGivern and Lancashire wouldn't do much for my confidence either!
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Post by Minormorris64 on Apr 7, 2017 12:28:33 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 16:25:13 GMT 1
Yawn...
Good job you're not a Chelsea fan Fred. You'd of been doing your nut at Courtois' howler this week.
Which incidentally was a worse mistake than any I have seen by JL this season.
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Post by haughmond on Apr 7, 2017 16:33:12 GMT 1
You know it makes sense, I have never known a goalkeeper to get so many second, to twenty chances. When I read the title of this thread I thought, God that's cruel, Freds given him a new nickname. 😉😉 Get Halstead in, and now before we have another performance only Bigbird could love.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 7, 2017 16:38:05 GMT 1
To be honest the manager will make his own decisions and he is hardly likely to listen to a fan telling him who to play.
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Post by haughmond on Apr 7, 2017 16:57:13 GMT 1
To be honest the manager will make his own decisions and he is hardly likely to listen to a fan telling him who to play. Very true. So let's not discuss anything teamwise, let's just STFU and accept what we are given, and be Friggin grateful for it.
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Post by shrewder on Apr 7, 2017 18:31:47 GMT 1
To be honest the manager will make his own decisions and he is hardly likely to listen to a fan telling him who to play. Very true. So let's not discuss anything teamwise, let's just STFU and accept what we are given, and be Friggin grateful for it. [br Think the point is a fan bluntly saying drop a player is hardly going to be taken notice of. This is completely different from the normal banter we have on here.
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 7, 2017 18:39:03 GMT 1
So we go into a must win game with a second string keeper, who is second string for a reason, that being that he is not as good as JL.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 18:46:34 GMT 1
So we go into a must win game with a second string keeper, who is second string for a reason, that being that he is not as good as JL. Or misplaced faith by his manager....
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Post by Exkeeper on Apr 7, 2017 20:10:11 GMT 1
So we go into a must win game with a second string keeper, who is second string for a reason, that being that he is not as good as JL. Or misplaced faith by his manager.... And the GK coach, if you believe that. Add on anyone who has watched MH regularly, home and away.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 20:34:50 GMT 1
We don't see what goes on in training. The Manager said earlier in the season that he has two goalkeepers, not a first team and reserve keeper. For some reason PH doesn't now fancy Halstead. I have always been a big fan of Jason but have to now admit he needs a break. It does explain why there appeared to be interest in bringing the Grimsby keeper in during the transfer window. We now have two good keepers who are prone to mistakes but isn't that the case throughout our league. Its even the case with Joe Hart. Mind you, no longer having Goldson and NKP in front of you and them being replaced with El Abd, McGivern and Lancashire wouldn't do much for my confidence either! Oh to still have NKP with us. Our loss has definitely been Bradford's gain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2017 20:48:24 GMT 1
Or misplaced faith by his manager.... And the GK coach, if you believe that. Add on anyone who has watched MH regularly, home and away. Well I have seen halstead regularly home and away, and have little faith in our KP coach based on his inability to improve loots obvious and blatant shortcoming. It's all about opinions but I doubt our defence have any confidence in lootwiler at present
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Post by Pilch on Apr 8, 2017 6:37:14 GMT 1
JL is way better than anything else we have so what is the point ?
what he needs to do is get grimmer and brown running down the lines like i suggested before the millwall game
grimmer came on a proved this should happen from the start, in his case at least
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Post by northwestman on Apr 8, 2017 8:56:57 GMT 1
On the basis that Halstead is already probably resigned to picking up his P45 at the end of the season, then putting him in might result in some outstanding performances either to try to save his job, or alternatively to put himself in the shop window for other Clubs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 9:34:19 GMT 1
JL is way better than anything else we have so what is the point ? what he needs to do is get grimmer and brown running down the lines like i suggested before the millwall game grimmer came on a proved this should happen from the start, in his case at least Because your opinion and judgement that JL is by far a better Gk is misguided. Halstead has shown in his appearances that he is better and more consistent in gk basics, commanding his area, organisation of his defenders, superior kicking, decision making, all better than JL. I can see why fans like JL he is a good shot stopper which is pleasing to the fans eye which clouds there judgement at his failings plus I suppose he does have a good chant. I would also argue Halstead is no worse a shot stopper. Halstead has not had a fair deal, he made one mistake at Fleetwood and dropped, and has probably not been helped by JL close bond with his gk coach. JL is in the worst form I can recall from a Shrewsbury keeper and for that reason should have been dropped long ago, probably as far back as Bolton away. It takes a strong manager to drop a fans favourite given our predicament and the last manager with that bottle was Gary Perers giving a young Joe Hart his debut. If JL does play today I still hope he has a great game and keeps a clean sheet and Town win but I dt it is hope over judgement. JL is clearly a nice guy but not a good enough keeper some fans like to think he his.
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Post by northwestman on Apr 8, 2017 9:50:36 GMT 1
JL is way better than anything else we have so what is the point ? what he needs to do is get grimmer and brown running down the lines like i suggested before the millwall game grimmer came on a proved this should happen from the start, in his case at least Because your opinion and judgement that JL is by far a better Gk is misguided. Halstead has shown in his appearances that he is better and more consistent in gk basics, commanding his area, organisation of his defenders, superior kicking, decision making, all better than JL. I can see why fans like JL he is a good shot stopper which is pleasing to the fans eye which clouds there judgement at his failings plus I suppose he does have a good chant. I would also argue Halstead is no worse a shot stopper. Halstead has not had a fair deal, he made one mistake at Fleetwood and dropped, and has probably not been helped by JL close bond with his gk coach.JL is in the worst form I can recall from a Shrewsbury keeper and for that reason should have been dropped long ago, probably as far back as Bolton away. It takes a strong manager to drop a fans favourite given our predicament and the last manager with that bottle was Gary Perers giving a young Joe Hart his debut. If JL does play today I still hope he has a great game and keeps a clean sheet and Town win but I dt it is hope over judgement. JL is clearly a nice guy but not a good enough keeper some fans like to think he his. Interesting comment, but have you any source to back it up?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 10:01:13 GMT 1
Opinion from watching the training ..
By the way a lot of time has been spent on JL and corners
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Post by whitchurch2wem on Apr 8, 2017 10:46:40 GMT 1
Leutwiler is very clearly struggling for any kind of form, but what is also clear, is that Hurst does not fancy Halstead at all, otherwise he would have been in weeks ago. Leutwiler is just about un-droppable, which may also explain his poor form as he is never going to be pushed and perhaps believes that he will always (if fit ) play. I agree that Halstead only had one poor game at Fleetwood and got dropped like a hot spud, but Hurst couldn't wait to get his first choice back in, and in my opinion, he hopes that Jayson can play his way back into form. Lets hope we have the time for this luxury.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 11:06:46 GMT 1
When I created this thread with the title "FAO Paul Hurst- DROP LEUTWILER" I did so knowing full well that professional league Managers take no notice of what supporters think on message boards so fully expect Paul Hurst to start Jason Leutwiler, in hindsight it is one of several misjudgements he has made with squad selection over the last few weeks......
Interesting feedback on here and other media is that many, even those that like JL, believe he should at the least have been rested. On radio Shropshire even the respected and level headed Mark Elliot has questioned several times JL selection.
I now just hope Shrewsbury Town pull off a miracle and find enough points in the last few games to keep our League 1 status......and we get a much better Number 1 GK for next season with Leutwiler finding another club having a year left on his contract.
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