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Post by champagneprince on May 5, 2011 16:54:26 GMT 1
Pros 1. Potentially more atmosphere 2. More cash for the club 3. A chance to increase the fanbase for the future 4. More chance of a carnival type atmosphere when we win instead of one of relief (Town pubs likely to be buzzing later too) 5. Great motivation for the players 6. Great visual sight to see it full
Cons 1. Utter confusion with the seating resulting in someone sat in your seat 2. Buffet queues 3. Concourse mayhem 4. 'Old favourites' attending who really shouldn't be there 5. Increased difficulty in stewarding 6. Annoying questions such as 'What colour are we playing in ?' and 'What number is Graham Turner ?'
Anymore pros and cons ?
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Post by captainpike on May 5, 2011 16:59:17 GMT 1
None of the 'cons' really bother me and I don't think it'll be mayhem - people have been to sports events / theatre / cinema before when sold out!! Unless you know that there are 2,000 imbeciles turning up I don't see the problem.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 5, 2011 17:01:00 GMT 1
It would be nice if they came a bit more regularly, but obviously each person has their own constraints. I'll be able to sniff out the glory hunters who've never set foot in the place before, so long as they come back afterwards I'm fine with them
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2011 17:09:32 GMT 1
Iv sat in roughly the same seat every game in the last 2 seasons so hopefully the little kids who think they are something special for sitting in Block 19 wont beat me to it on Saturday!
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Post by starlight on May 5, 2011 17:09:50 GMT 1
I feel the love.
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Post by andygroundo on May 5, 2011 17:12:48 GMT 1
They might not be extra fans, they may just come to 5 to 10 games a season, but they are all turning out for this one. (For obvious reasons)
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Post by eggyshrew on May 5, 2011 17:27:30 GMT 1
I welcome all partimers as long as they fcuk off again
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Post by shrew54 on May 5, 2011 17:39:24 GMT 1
I welcome as many fans as possible I just hope they don't start criticising if it isn't going well because they're used to Premiers**te football
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Post by poolieshrew on May 5, 2011 18:50:24 GMT 1
All positive for the club, great lift for the players and cant think of any reason why you wouldnt want a full house every week!
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Post by shrewd67 on May 5, 2011 18:59:26 GMT 1
All positive for the club, great lift for the players and cant think of any reason why you wouldnt want a full house every week! Spot on! The more the better, it makes for a more enjoyable match day and more revenue for our club. Hopefully many will decide to come more often, especially if we go up this season. So no 'cons' at all.
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Post by Llanelian on May 5, 2011 19:03:06 GMT 1
Like Shrew54 I don't care where they come from. It will always be the same....in my 50 plus years of watching the Town, right from the 2-1 win against Everton in 1961, that's my earliest recollection of a 'one off' cup game, we have always had fairweather fans, and apart from the Wrexham fans that come out the hills when they are playing well and then disappear just as quickly, I think we probably we have the most fickle fans in the lower leagues.
Generally it isn't the fans that cause the problems, it has always been the club itself, via a certain Mr Starkey! Have you all forgotten the cock ups in the seventies and eighties? Complete silence for weeks on end, misinformation, long lines of supporters up Dogpole for tickets with a couple of the ladies struggling in the ticket office whilst a certain Mr Starkey was practicing his golf swing on the pitch....ah...those were the days...not! No, let them all come....I just wonder how many will return in the next ten days or so for the play off semi home leg. Sorry, only being the soothsayer that has come with living, breathing, eating and supporting the best little club in the English leagues!
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 5, 2011 19:07:58 GMT 1
cons?? Blimey, some people can make some negatives out of anything.
A full house is great for club, more money and hopefully a great atmosphere and making this even more of a community club. If they play well and even go up then hopefully some can turn up more regularly.
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Post by Liam on May 5, 2011 19:33:21 GMT 1
The only potential con I can see being significant is if they turn up and start whinging if we don't get off to a good start, thus transmitting anxiety to the players. To be fair though, we've plenty of regulars who do that anyway.
The gate will effectively provide revenue equivalent to an extra home game, and arguably 2 extra ones when you factor in how many of the usual 5000-odd are season ticket holders.
That can only be good for next season's playing budget.
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Post by tommylunch on May 5, 2011 20:29:31 GMT 1
Speaking as an "extra fan" I feel I should point out some things. Firstly, I may not get to many matches but I've been following Salop since before many regular attenders were born, including going to every match home and away in a relegation season, various away ties in the Welsh Cup, pre-season tours etc. Secondly, choosing to live a life where Saturdays are someties taken up by other things does not make me a fairweather supporter. Thirdly, some fans are not "fickle", they have to choose carefully how they spend their money, so it makes sense to spend it on the more significant matches. I could go on but I'll stop there. There, I've stopped.
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Post by swindonred (read your pm) on May 5, 2011 20:31:58 GMT 1
Speaking as an "extra fan" I feel I should point out some things. Firstly, I may not get to many matches but I've been following Salop since before many regular attenders were born, including going to every match home and away in a relegation season, various away ties in the Welsh Cup, pre-season tours etc. Secondly, choosing to live a life where Saturdays are someties taken up by other things does not make me a fairweather supporter. Thirdly, some fans are not "fickle", they have to choose carefully how they spend their money, so it makes sense to spend it on the more significant matches. I could go on but I'll stop there. There, I've stopped. Preach on brother. All about circumstances. Exiles, for instance, are hardly in as able position to attend games as Shrews' residents, and are more likely to cherry pick the matches they see but they feel the passion nonetheless.
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Post by ferkle94 on May 5, 2011 20:33:24 GMT 1
Speaking as an "extra fan" I feel I should point out some things. Firstly, I may not get to many matches but I've been following Salop since before many regular attenders were born, including going to every match home and away in a relegation season, various away ties in the Welsh Cup, pre-season tours etc. Secondly, choosing to live a life where Saturdays are someties taken up by other things does not make me a fairweather supporter. Thirdly, some fans are not "fickle", they have to choose carefully how they spend their money, so it makes sense to spend it on the more significant matches. I could go on but I'll stop there. There, I've stopped. Fair play to you, but i think this thread is more about those who only turn up when the town are doing well, unlike yourself
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Post by Dale on May 5, 2011 20:36:07 GMT 1
Speaking as an "extra fan" I feel I should point out some things. Firstly, I may not get to many matches but I've been following Salop since before many regular attenders were born, including going to every match home and away in a relegation season, various away ties in the Welsh Cup, pre-season tours etc. Secondly, choosing to live a life where Saturdays are someties taken up by other things does not make me a fairweather supporter. Thirdly, some fans are not "fickle", they have to choose carefully how they spend their money, so it makes sense to spend it on the more significant matches. I could go on but I'll stop there. There, I've stopped. There are probably thousands of others like you, we may have 5,000 or so 'regular' STFC supporters now but I bet are there are far more than the usual 5,000 or 6,000 matchgoing supporters who call themselves supporters of our great club. One good example is my stepgrandad's son, he became a Salop supporter (and still proudly wears his hat and scarf) from seeing the players train when he was a student at the old 'Tech' back in the day, yet he has never even seen a live game!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2011 20:50:08 GMT 1
Some strange opinions on this one. Seems some of us want to see an increased attendance, glad of the extra revenue, hopefully bigger fan base etc etc. while others want all of the above, but want to vet the newcomers before allowing them in. Lets just be grateful that we will have 9000 town fans cheering on OUR team on the day.
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Post by stfcfan87 on May 5, 2011 22:10:14 GMT 1
there's probably about 5000 odd fans who go to each of our games, however they're probably not always the same ones. Some will only be able to go to every one, hence why not everyone has a season ticket - it's just as this is the last game of the season and there's something at stake, everyone has prioritised this one and moved around other commitments - perhaps they've arranged to finish early, swapped work for the next weekend, perhaps they've cut another commitment, or been budgeting for this game for a couple of weeks.
As it is we should enjoy having this capacity because it's not like its happened before!
But it's not the same as the wembley trips for example, where we had hundreds / thousands of people tagging along who just wanted to go see wembley
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Post by captainpike on May 5, 2011 22:11:20 GMT 1
I've had season tickets in the past, I have a season ticket now. But between 2008 and 2010 I had very few Saturdays off work, so I can fully sympathise with fans who have made a special effort to go to this game. I have two friends coming up from Brighton, one down from York, another from Bristol. That's just me - I'm sure there are a lot of people who are true fans who are making a special effort to get there.
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Post by champagneprince on May 5, 2011 22:45:52 GMT 1
With regards to 'why' I posted the thread it was just to gauge opinion really, as i've seen comments on recent threads and threads in the past commenting on the downside of large crowds at the Prostar and the Gay Meadow and i'm sure there will be comments that follow this game too. It was intended as a question rather than a statement. On a personal note, I think it's a good thing for the fans, the players and also the club and the 'pros' far outweigh the 'cons' (although 'cons' is probably the wrong choice of word). I hope that when we go up , we gain a permanent 7k following for League 1, as i'm sure that will help to increase the enjoyment factor significantly for everybody. At the moment I am priviliged to be in a job where I get Saturdays off and can (just about) afford it. But that wasn't always the case, so I fully understand why people might not be able to make it every week. With my own experiences in mind some of the posts above have been superb it's great to see more or less everyone seeing it as a positive and getting behind those who can't make it regularly.
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Post by Ned on May 5, 2011 23:01:43 GMT 1
**** them, bunch of tossers Seriously, if it's going to benefit the club and with the possibility of getting a few more regulars then there's no harm in it. If the kids enjoy it, they'll keep on mentioning it to their parents. Can only benefit the club.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 5, 2011 23:27:27 GMT 1
I am bringing 3 people for their first game: two lads and their Dad (who watched town in the 70s/80s)
I am also bringing another lad for about the 5th time, who has also started going with his grandad.
Personally I think it is "The more the merrier"
Every new person introduced is potential: last season I brough a couple to a few games, and they now have season tickets.
PLUS if our average support is 5500 in reality that must involve about 7,000 people in total with many not there every single week. They'll all show up for the big game.
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2011 0:35:24 GMT 1
It will be great to see the ground so full, but I still don't understand why people who don't come often are so desperate to come to a game where promotion is out of our control They should have all been coming to the Accy game, or like at least one person I know, saving their money for the play-off games
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Post by Blues in Crewe on May 6, 2011 5:12:59 GMT 1
Extra fan here too, I am able to read my seat number on the ticket infact I selected it when I booked, agree with the buffet/concourse mayhem but isnt it always and seems from posts on here that many 'regulars' are planning ahead to avoid being in those areas.
Admittedly I don't think I've made it this season (not actually quite sure where the last 12 months has gone) but I changed jobs and was away training mon-fri from July to Feb which meant very little time to barely get general household tasks done let alone anything else. The job change also meant a significant pay cut so the consideration of fuel, parking etc on top of the ticket meant that Ive mostly sat at home checking for updates or picking up radio Salop.
This was pretty much the first game that I could get to since I started on shift and still I finish 3am Sat morning and back in 10pm Sat night but it was always my plan to do the last game of the season and I ordered my ticket pretty much as soon as they were available for online sale. Promotion may be out of our control but its the kind of game that you would really kick yourself if results do go our way and you could have gone but didn't
TBH I'm not sure what is all the fuss about its not like the 'parttimers' are taking tickets from the regular fans its not a game that was massively pre-hyped to sell out no one has needed loyalty points to buy tickets etc the fan base for the club has massively grown over the years and I dont understand how people can think that this is a bad thing
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Post by ssshrew on May 6, 2011 9:22:44 GMT 1
Good luck to everyone who comes. Does it really matter how often unless they start criticising the team we have watched all season. All revenue must be good for the club. There are many reasons why some people can't come all season.
There shouldn't be a problem with seating surely. Everyone has a ticket with the seat they have paid for printed on it!
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Post by alex1993 on May 6, 2011 9:45:36 GMT 1
cant see any cons. as long as i can sit in my usual seat in block 19 it really doesnt bother me. i think it will be great visually and also could be brilliant to hear 9000 singing along. as for the concourses, doesnt bother me wont go near them tomorrow. as long as we get 3 points and hopefully prove to these 'new' fans that shrewsbury is a great club then you never know we could have another sell out in the play offs if wycombe do win and it could boost our gate for next year. COYB get behind them
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 6, 2011 9:53:32 GMT 1
Also count all the parents of people who ae 20/30/40 who probs took you to your first games, and then as they got older stopped going every week for a variety of reasons (I know a lot that never stopped going too!)
My folks are like that, they went to the town when we were kids every week for about 5-7 years, then as we moved on to the Riverside from the familey stand, they picked the games they wanted to go to (probs doing 5-8 a season) and all the big games...
They could be considered part timers, but my mum always has the match on at home should she not go.... but the point is there still supporters....
I think the persentage of people pitching up tomora, with no previous afiliation to the club is pretty low who you could not considered to be a supporter will be pretty low!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2011 10:33:45 GMT 1
Promotion on Saturday would be a great and special occasion for the supporters that have followed this football club for many seasons in the bottom division, and especially those that have traveled the breadth of the country this year.
To the day-trippers and newcomers, any success will mean nothing. Take their money and run.
I won't be there on Saturday, but there are some excellent people involved with Shrewsbury Town Football Club. I will be listening and hoping that they celebrate the success they deserve.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on May 6, 2011 10:55:11 GMT 1
Just as long as everyone knows that a win is not enough, we're depending on results elsewhere too. Dont want any premature celebrations...
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