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May 15, 2011 9:42:01 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on May 15, 2011 9:42:01 GMT 1
sharps out ? No perfect replacement ? 2-0 down
Torquay maybe playing a defensive formation ?
Perfect. Time for all 3 up front
Collins harrold Bradshaw
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 15, 2011 9:42:45 GMT 1
Good idea...
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May 15, 2011 9:50:13 GMT 1
Post by heavenlyshrew on May 15, 2011 9:50:13 GMT 1
Pilch who would you play in the back 3 though?
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May 15, 2011 9:59:30 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on May 15, 2011 9:59:30 GMT 1
Roberto Carlos Franz Beckenbaur Bobby Moore
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May 15, 2011 10:00:07 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on May 15, 2011 10:00:07 GMT 1
All 3 would still get in the side :-0
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May 15, 2011 10:12:13 GMT 1
Post by heavenlyshrew on May 15, 2011 10:12:13 GMT 1
I am sure Rod hull and the emu could get a place ahead of grandison after yesterday;))
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May 15, 2011 10:19:01 GMT 1
Post by Shrewed on May 15, 2011 10:19:01 GMT 1
I am sure Rod hull and the emu could get a place ahead of grandison after yesterday;)) Why pick on one player, was he the worst town player - no way. You criticise others for their views on the teams performance but then have a go at the least experIenced player in the team. A player who needs support from all real town fans.
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Post by TonyKellysBelly on May 15, 2011 10:27:31 GMT 1
I'd like to see 3-4-3 but think GT will stick to a rigid 4-4-2 If Sharps is out Raven will play even if he's not 100% I'd start Bradshaw up top, he looked the only one who could make something happen when he came on yesterday. I think all 3 strikers could yet play a big part Friday. Early goal will help settle us COYB
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May 15, 2011 10:37:40 GMT 1
Post by shrewsace on May 15, 2011 10:37:40 GMT 1
Would go with Bradshaw-Harrold-Ainsworth up top in a 3-4-3. Branston loves a physical tussle, not sure he's so keen with two tricky, pacy youngsters running rings around him.
I think Taylor, Bradshaw and Ainsworth could be the key to getting Torquay on the back foot, rather than relying on physical presence and trying to break the door down.
If the Wright of the Hereford and Oxford home games would like to put in an appearance, that would also be much appreciated.
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May 15, 2011 10:42:08 GMT 1
Post by Shrewed on May 15, 2011 10:42:08 GMT 1
We need goals so yes I'd go with 3 up front but Collins instead of Harrold he is more likely to score and does drag the defence about more. I also think we tend to play the ball on the ground more with Collins.
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May 15, 2011 11:13:06 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 11:13:06 GMT 1
I would stick with 4-4-2 to start, we need to get behind them on the wings and we have the players to do that, in fact in the first half yesterday that was our better play.
We still need a solid start and going with 3 at the back and conceding an early go would kill the home leg before we have even started
If we are at 0-0 with 30 minutes to play then yes it's a good option.
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May 15, 2011 12:13:21 GMT 1
Post by hooverfoxhat on May 15, 2011 12:13:21 GMT 1
Cat among the pigeons here but I'd have Leslie on the bench and throw him on mid second half - can be an impact player and likely as anyone to score with a sweet left foot and for what it's worth if you're going to have the likes of Disley and others on the bench and never play them then drop 1 of them totally and give Elder a chance for the last 10minutes if needed.
It's rip,s**t or bust time!
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May 15, 2011 12:17:16 GMT 1
Post by bertymax on May 15, 2011 12:17:16 GMT 1
If we go with 3 up front, but i'd rather it be Harrold, Bradshaw and Ainsworth. Although Collins has banged a fair few in this season, given his pedigree as an ex prem player he seems to lose his compusure a bit too much in front of goal. Not a big fan if im honest.
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May 15, 2011 12:20:43 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 12:20:43 GMT 1
Cat among the pigeons here but I'd have Leslie on the bench and throw him on mid second half - can be an impact player and likely as anyone to score with a sweet left foot and for what it's worth if you're going to have the likes of Disley and others on the bench and never play them then drop 1 of them totally and give Elder a chance for the last 10minutes if needed. It's rip,s**t or bust time! No to both suggestions, neither have the quality in my opinion to provide some quality out of nothing
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May 15, 2011 12:27:28 GMT 1
Post by hooverfoxhat on May 15, 2011 12:27:28 GMT 1
Rather have a bench though with something representing attacking options - the likes of Disley etc are sadly bench warmers so why not warm the bench with personnel that might, just might give us something extra in the last 10 or 15 minutes - certainly no fan of Leslie but he can on the odd occasion pull something out of the bag with a decent shot on goal, as for Elder.......enigmatic at STFC but who knows, stranger things have happened.
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May 15, 2011 12:31:06 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 12:31:06 GMT 1
They toke the p**s out of our defence twice with 4 players imagine it with 3.
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May 15, 2011 12:36:33 GMT 1
Post by SeanBroseley on May 15, 2011 12:36:33 GMT 1
Turner shouldn't tinker about too much as it will give the players more things to think about.
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May 15, 2011 13:39:52 GMT 1
Post by Shrewed on May 15, 2011 13:39:52 GMT 1
Cat among the pigeons here but I'd have Leslie on the bench and throw him on mid second half - can be an impact player and likely as anyone to score with a sweet left foot and for what it's worth if you're going to have the likes of Disley and others on the bench and never play them then drop 1 of them totally and give Elder a chance for the last 10minutes if needed. It's rip,s**t or bust time! Think it would be a good idea to have Leslie and elder on the bench, we have got to win no point in having players on the bench who are very unlikely to come on.
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May 15, 2011 14:13:44 GMT 1
Post by Myddleshrew on May 15, 2011 14:13:44 GMT 1
Team for friday has to be attacking
GK Smith
CB Sherrif CB Sadler CB Canavan
RM Wright CM Wroe CM Davies LM Taylor
CF Ainsworth CF Harrold CF Bradshaw
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May 15, 2011 14:20:45 GMT 1
Post by timgallon on May 15, 2011 14:20:45 GMT 1
Turner shouldn't tinker about too much as it will give the players more things to think about. You could argue that Torquay have clearly got our number in our current formation and sticking to it will not enable the team to do what is required. I would like to see GT go for a more attacking formation. Better to get knocked out trying to win rather than being all conservative about it.
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May 15, 2011 14:21:00 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 14:21:00 GMT 1
I don't see any reason to introduce a new formation at the start of the game. 442 has served us pretty well all season. Yes we need an early goal but if we give one away it's curtains for sure. The right pair up front is the key selection............. probably Harrold and Ainsworth for me to give Torquay something different to think about. I hope Raven is back to add a bit of expererience to the right side.
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May 15, 2011 14:34:06 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on May 15, 2011 14:34:06 GMT 1
I don't see any reason to introduce a new formation at the start of the game. 442 has served us pretty well all season. Yes we need an early goal but if we give one away it's curtains for sure. The right pair up front is the key selection............. probably Harrold and Ainsworth for me to give Torquay something different to think about. I hope Raven is back to add a bit of expererience to the right side. canavan yesterday, goldson v bury both we just like fish out of water trying to fill sharps boots they might as well have not been on the pitch we are 2-0 down, the whole season has come down to 90 minutes we need at least 2 goals more than torquay lets play the last 20 minutes first if it doesnt work at least we still have 70 more attack attack attack ;-) we can win this 5-2
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May 15, 2011 14:36:13 GMT 1
Post by Feedo Gnasher on May 15, 2011 14:36:13 GMT 1
Smith
Raven - Sherriff - Sadler
Taylor - Wroe - Davies - Wright
Ainsworth - Bradshaw - Collins could work, even though that almosts reads as a 3-2-5. Attack
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May 15, 2011 18:28:11 GMT 1
Post by Aub on May 15, 2011 18:28:11 GMT 1
Agree with a change of formation but think 343 a bit radical. I think a 4141 could do the trick. The problem we`ve had with Torquay is the midfield 4 are too deep and outnumbered. Id put either Mcintyre or Mcallister in front of the back 4 and push the 4 midfielders 15 yds further up the pitch to support a lone striker who would be Bradshaw. Some might say its negative but it worked a treat away at Crewe earlier this season when strangely Robinson played up top on his own and had a great game. Whatever system we do it cant be 442 cos Torquay have obviously got us sussed playing that way.
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May 15, 2011 18:30:18 GMT 1
Post by bigbluesfan on May 15, 2011 18:30:18 GMT 1
Why not Disney and Leslie he done Hereford a turn getting goals when needed and he must be match fit so throw them on could not be any worse than some off the players that played yesterday.
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May 15, 2011 18:45:23 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 18:45:23 GMT 1
Leslie wasnt good enough for the squad before he left, none of the players did themselves a favour yesturday but they have been doing the job when Leslie wasnt here, so he wont get back in, stick him on the bench.
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May 15, 2011 18:48:05 GMT 1
Post by Rusholme Ruffian on May 15, 2011 18:48:05 GMT 1
Agree with a change of formation but think 343 a bit radical. I think a 4141 could do the trick. The problem we`ve had with Torquay is the midfield 4 are too deep and outnumbered. Id put either Mcintyre or Mcallister in front of the back 4 and push the 4 midfielders 15 yds further up the pitch to support a lone striker who would be Bradshaw. Some might say its negative but it worked a treat away at Crewe earlier this season when strangely Robinson played up top on his own and had a great game. Whatever system we do it cant be 442 cos Torquay have obviously got us sussed playing that way. I'm not aversed to this. Give Wroe a bit more freedom, and release the wingers that bit more too/ could even turn into a 4231 at times. But not sure i'm convinced bringing in players who haven't played for a long time is the way forward. and do the have the quality '1' up top? not sure
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May 15, 2011 18:56:46 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 18:56:46 GMT 1
3 across the back against the same Tomlin/Robinson/Zebroski combination which has setup/scored 7 and could have had more in our last two meetings?
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May 15, 2011 19:02:30 GMT 1
Post by Pilch on May 15, 2011 19:02:30 GMT 1
3 across the back against the same Tomlin/Robinson/Zebroski combination which has setup/scored 7 and could have had more in our last two meetings? yes you are right lets play 5 4 1 and hold them to 0-0 the whole 90 minutes could be like the last 10 of man u blackburn
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May 15, 2011 19:07:43 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on May 15, 2011 19:07:43 GMT 1
"Going for it" is all very well, and we have to do that to some degree, but keeping a clean sheet with 3 at the back looks a tall order.
I'd personally go for a 4-3-1-2 formation - with Ainsworth being the roaming "1" just behind Bradshaw and one of Collins or Harrold, probably the latter. Difficult decision might be whether we could accommodate both Wright and Taylor in that midfield 3...probably not - likely to need 2 from Wroe, Davis and McIntyre to protect the walking wounded at the back.
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