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Post by Shrewed on May 18, 2011 17:25:15 GMT 1
Well monkee I must say you are not much of a sleuth, if you think I am cypher. I must say, as I have before, that if I was a member of the Shrewsbury trust I'd not be very happy you using their name to serve your own vindictive purpose. This whole episode would have died a death hours ago if you'd shut up. maybe you should write to them and ask for my head although i did point out that it was not a trust opinion. always trying to silence others opnions arent you? but yes, its is probably best that we both "shut up" and leave it now vindictive? stones and glass houses spring to mind Think it was you that included me in this thread not the other way round, might be nice if for the first time you admitted you were wrong. By the way heavenly how do you manage now the daily sport is no longer printed.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 18, 2011 17:26:38 GMT 1
Internet porn Ed you should try it sometime
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 17:28:12 GMT 1
Email sent to the club, up to them to now respond to concerns raised.
Hi Martin
I have done as you requested, i believe that data requested in the following questions should be a matter of public record in the interest of transparency and dispel any concerns that commercial secrecy breeds amongst the masses. I believe that the information requested should have been disclosed as a matter of course, rather than as a matter upon individual request, i strongly believe that the lack of transparency in business and government is an issue that should be confronted whenever possible.
The sooner the club responds to these questions with full disclosure, the sooner peoples concerns will be dispelled, i strongly believe my personal identity has no bearing on this matter and that refusal to answer these questions because i wish to remain anonymous will result only to raise further concerns in the minds of many about the clubs majority shareholder JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED.
Questions for the Directors of Shrewsbury town FC.
1. Can you please release and disclose the names of the chairman, secretary, directors and other senior management involved with JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED and make them available for download to the general public. 2. Can you please release a list all shareholders and shareholdings in JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMTED and make it available for download to the general public. 3. Can you please list all relevant details relating to the legal entity and company registration including country of registration of JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED and make them available for download to the general public. 4. Can you please release certified company accounts going back 6 years for JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED and make these available for download to the general public. 5. Can you please explain why there has been no previous disclosure of any kind in matters relating to the company JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED who is the football clubs biggest shareholder. 6. Do you believe that full transparency in matters such as shareholders is the best policy when a quick look across the border shows how things can go wrong when fans take their eye off the ball?
All the best
CYPHER
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 17:29:21 GMT 1
maybe you should write to them and ask for my head although i did point out that it was not a trust opinion. always trying to silence others opnions arent you? but yes, its is probably best that we both "shut up" and leave it now vindictive? stones and glass houses spring to mind Think it was you that included me in this thread not the other way round, might be nice if for the first time you admitted you were wrong. By the way heavenly how do you manage now the daily sport is no longer printed. yes, i included you, the general appearance of the posting reminded me of your style of writing and having changed your profile name almost as often as i do, can you blame me for wondering? How can i say i am wrong when the identity of "cypher " is still unknown? x
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 18, 2011 17:33:59 GMT 1
You did more than wonder Marcus. You called him out. And it wasn't him.
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Post by Pilch on May 18, 2011 17:37:33 GMT 1
for the record, the mods discussed this same story over 6 months ago it led to about 4 posts and nobody really cared
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 17:37:37 GMT 1
You did more than wonder Marcus. You called him out. And it wasn't him. wasnt it? i see no proof either way Dave. if i do i will of course apologise. happy to change my opinion if new info comes to light, did i miss a post somewhere ?
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 18, 2011 17:42:15 GMT 1
Welldone Marcus you know it i not Shrewed,hope2010 and shrewed54 that only leaves 3997 to cross of the list to you find out who that person is 3996 now as it aint me.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 17:47:08 GMT 1
Welldone Marcus you know it i not Shrewed,hope2010 and shrewed54 that only leaves 3997 to cross of the list to you find out who that person is 3996 now as it aint me. actually Martin, i already knew you werent capable of Cyphers posting but you are also not capable of reading minds, so how exactly do you know it isnt him? Didnt he delete his other profiles? as i read it, you are only allowed one apart from certain exceptions
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Post by markglasgow on May 18, 2011 18:54:54 GMT 1
Two outcomes of this:
1) Jalfreen Holdings is indeed a trust set up by RW and we can all agree that it's a bit of fuss over nothing.
2) Jalfreen Holdings belongs to an as yet unnamed third party. This of course would be of great interest to all of us.
Either way Cypher has certainly got us all thinking and despite much whining it is certainly the thing that should be discussed on this board. Not sure about anyone else but I'm certainly keen to know what's what.
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2011 19:15:32 GMT 1
Interesting opening post on this thread. By someone who thinks he knows who Cypher is, it seems to me. What Martin James already knows is that the vast majority of people on here don't post under there real name. Pretty obviously. Of course when the questions are asked it is always open to the club not to answer the questions. As it was open to the club a number of years ago not to ask questions regarding the ownership of all the land at Oteley Road. So we go back to a previous issue that has raised its head before: people with ownership of shares should ask these sort of questions at the annual general meeting.
There's a complacency about Martin James' post too. There is no guarantee that we are anything more than a heart beat away from the sort of problems that have occurred for a number of years at Wrexham. Whenever there is a state of flux in the ownership or leadership of an organisation then predators will strike. We're a juicy target compared to most clubs in Leagues 1 and 2. We need to be vigilant.
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Post by Shrewed on May 18, 2011 19:17:24 GMT 1
Pilch, could you please do me a favour and point out to the Doubting Thomas that I am not Cypher. I really am looking forward to a grovelling apology and maybe a few pints on Friday.
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2011 19:27:08 GMT 1
It's ProfPatPending. Welcome back Prof.
If it is an ex-employee of Shrewsbury Town that doesn't really narrow it down.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 19:38:08 GMT 1
this all seems pretty pointless to me, but for arguements sake i googled jefreen holdings ltd and it came up with no matches (no pun intended).
surely if this was for real these people would be on google? i googled spooks for goodness sake and it came up with MI5.
all seems a little bizarre to me with lots of people getting hot under the collar because of some random posts by some faceless poster?
why?
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on May 18, 2011 19:45:57 GMT 1
There's a complacency about Martin James' email to. There is no guarantee that we are anything more than a heart beat away from the sort of problems that have occurred for a number of years at Wrexham. Whenever there is a state of flux in the ownership or leadership of an organisation then predators will strike. We're a juicy target compared to most clubs in Leagues 1 and 2. We need to be vigilant. Absolutely agree, I've expressed concern on here many times about what will happen when RW retires/loses interest/carks it.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 19:54:58 GMT 1
Pilch, could you please do me a favour and point out to the Doubting Thomas that I am not Cypher. I really am looking forward to a grovelling apology and maybe a few pints on Friday. Grovelling and beer were not on offer. and having given it some though, i wont be offering the apology after some of the things you have said about me over the years. especially as it seems you get off on that sort of thing. I am a little intreagued by the sort of person you are, what did you do for a living before you retired (put me right if you arent retired)? my guess is teacher or maybe some sort of office manager
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Post by Shrewed on May 18, 2011 20:11:26 GMT 1
Pilch, could you please do me a favour and point out to the Doubting Thomas that I am not Cypher. I really am looking forward to a grovelling apology and maybe a few pints on Friday. Grovelling and beer were not on offer. and having given it some though, i wont be offering the apology after some of the things you have said about me over the years. especially as it seems you get off on that sort of thing. I am a little intreagued by the sort of person you are, what did you do for a living before you retired (put me right if you arent retired)? my guess is teacher or maybe some sort of office manager Now why doesn't that surprise me. There are some who like to dish out the insults but can't face being on the receiving end. If you are that intrigued about what I did prior to retirement i'm sure that if you go back over my posts you will find sufficient evidence to put together a picture, providing your a better sleuth than you have demonstated today. Oh by the way I don't give a sh!t about you.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 20:28:15 GMT 1
Ed is a former teacher of mathematics and taught in Church Stretton.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 20:39:27 GMT 1
Grovelling and beer were not on offer. and having given it some though, i wont be offering the apology after some of the things you have said about me over the years. especially as it seems you get off on that sort of thing. I am a little intreagued by the sort of person you are, what did you do for a living before you retired (put me right if you arent retired)? my guess is teacher or maybe some sort of office manager Now why doesn't that surprise me. There are some who like to dish out the insults but can't face being on the receiving end. If you are that intrigued about what I did prior to retirement i'm sure that if you go back over my posts you will find sufficient evidence to put together a picture, providing your a better sleuth than you have demonstated today. Oh by the way I don't give a **** about you. classy methinks he doth protest too much i wasnt the one asking for an apology you're right about people not being able to take iti will be a little disappointed seem to remember i guessed your profile changes in the past.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 20:41:02 GMT 1
Ed is a former teacher of mathematics and taught in Church Stretton. really! maybe i am a better slueth than he thinks cheers Dr
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Post by SeanBroseley on May 18, 2011 20:54:39 GMT 1
Does anyone seriously think that this or associated threads will have an affect on Friday's game in any way shape or form?
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2011 20:57:26 GMT 1
Graham Turner is my guess
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 20:58:27 GMT 1
Does anyone seriously think that this or associated threads will have an affect on Friday's game in any way shape or form? doubtful it will affect the players
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Post by markglasgow on May 18, 2011 21:50:56 GMT 1
Graham Turner is my guess Always thought/hoped that Turner would have 3 years as manager and then take over from RW upstairs. This plan could have been brought forward of course....
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