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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:07:26 GMT 1
I can confirm, as requested this is a previous B and A poster, and this IP address matched another posters on here.... However why hide the anoymety on this matter is something I dont get, and which has caused all the alarm and worry by myself on this matter initally... which caused the post to be deleted... I know who you are, and respect you dont want it annoucned... but you leave yourself open to plenty of abuse by remaining as "cypher" For the record and for what feel like the 10th time today, the club and Chairman has agreed to answer any questions on the ownership of the club from any fans (as they will any question)... however to do this the club (and within there rights too) require a real name and a location... if you want to ask the question directly yourself you will need that, if you want B and A to ask it as part of its latest set of questions, then I will need it to send to them. The club are not even trying to avoid the question, the chairman has agreed to respond, Martin has attempted to engage you.... no massive issue is it? Im sure should we want to know whats going on it will be explained... but after hours of going on about it, have you attempted to find the answers out from the club yet? Or are you more intrested in causeing grief for the club before the biggest match for years, and attempteing to get other B and A members to do all your leg work??? You will likely get your answers when you ask the question, and its likely it will turn out to be totally boring news which many on this board have already intimated the case will be. respect his right to anonimity? why is this any different to when my name has been disclosed on here by a mod?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 18, 2011 16:08:11 GMT 1
i have looked into this and you are wrong, you have no right to anonimity whatsoever. This is one of the main reasons i no longer have a personal account with B&A I don't think it is very good form to use your B&A account to express why you don't have a B&A account!
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Post by bordersalopian on May 18, 2011 16:09:21 GMT 1
I can confirm, as requested this is a previous B and A poster, and this IP address matched another posters on here.... However why hide the anoymety on this matter is something I dont get, and which has caused all the alarm and worry by myself on this matter initally... which caused the post to be deleted... I know who you are, and respect you dont want it annoucned... but you leave yourself open to plenty of abuse by remaining as "cypher" For the record and for what feel like the 10th time today, the club and Chairman has agreed to answer any questions on the ownership of the club from any fans (as they will any question)... however to do this the club (and within there rights too) require a real name and a location... if you want to ask the question directly yourself you will need that, if you want B and A to ask it as part of its latest set of questions, then I will need it to send to them. The club are not even trying to avoid the question, the chairman has agreed to respond, Martin has attempted to engage you.... no massive issue is it? Im sure should we want to know whats going on it will be explained... but after hours of going on about it, have you attempted to find the answers out from the club yet? Or are you more intrested in causeing grief for the club before the biggest match for years, and attempteing to get other B and A members to do all your leg work??? You will likely get your answers when you ask the question, and its likely it will turn out to be totally boring news which many on this board have already intimated the case will be. respect his right to anonimity? why is this any different to when my name has been disclosed on here by a mod? ^^^ What shrwestrustpress said !!
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:10:02 GMT 1
i have looked into this and you are wrong, you have no right to anonimity whatsoever. This is one of the main reasons i no longer have a personal account with B&A I don't think it is very good form to use your B&A account to express why you don't have a B&A account! you may have a point but it's done now. i may be forced to change the name of my profile as this is most definately not a trust view. edit. just tried and you cant do that any more. if one of the mods wants to change my profile name to Monkee or Marcus, feel free
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 18, 2011 16:12:28 GMT 1
flipping heck whats wrong with everyone today...
Im putting it down to nerves on friday!
I have no idea what Shrewstrustpress is on about by the way, not sure I was involved in that!
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 16:15:27 GMT 1
Everyone on here is anonymous unless they have been outed or chose to make their real identity known to each other or the board in general, pretty much most people on here use an alias so i dont really consider asking for my privacy to be maintained as a serious issue that overides the actual issue at the heart of this debate.
Please ask the question of the club by all means ElHurricane, i wish you good luck, but is that really a question that should even be being asked in the first place, surely full disclosure should already have been made as a matter of course?
Like you say, it may in all likleyhood be BORING news, BUT once again, unless full disclosure is given, NOBODY, not even you will know the truth behind this secreative company.
As i am led to understand, this issue concerning JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED was discussed privately by the mods back in December and nobody knew anything about them or where they are registered.
Like i also keep saying it MAY be nothing to worry about, but untill this companies accounts, shareholdings, directorsa and country of registration is fully disclosed by the club, then people will worry, and rightly so.
Its up to the club now, to make a statement na dmake full disclosure of their own back, they shouldnt just think a couple of sentances in a Q& A ids going to satisfy peoples concerns, regardless of anything being amiss or not.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:15:35 GMT 1
flipping heck whats wrong with everyone today... Im putting it down to nerves on friday! I have no idea what Shrewstrustpress is on about by the way, not sure I was involved in that! not sure if you were but it was during my last incarnation. My view has changed somewhat since, although i had very different reasons for not wanting people to use my name in vain
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:19:47 GMT 1
Everyone on here is anonymous unless they choose to make there real identity known to each other or the board in general, pretty much most people on here use an alias so i dont really consider asking for my privacy to be maintained as a serious issue that overides the actual issue at the heart of this debate. Please ask the question of the club by all means ElHurricane, i wish you good luck, but is that really a question that should even be being asked in the first place, surely full disclosure should already have been made as a matter of course? Like you say, it may in all likleyhood be BORING news, BUT once again, unless full disclosure is given, NOBODY, not even you will know the truth behind this secreative company. As i am led to understand, this issue concerning JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED was discussed privately by the mods back in December and nobody knew anything about them or where they are registered. Like i also keep saying it MAY be nothing to worry about, but untill this companies accounts, shareholdings, directorsa and country of registration is fully disclosed by the club, then people will worry, and rightly so. Its up to the club now, to make a statement na dmake full disclosure of their own back, they shouldnt just think a couple of sentances in a Q& A ids going to satisfy peoples concerns, regardless of anything being amiss or not. 1 . you have no right to anonimity 2. if it "may" be nothing to worry about, as you say, so why come on here casting alsortsf doubt and suspicion? why not make some enquirys before gobbing off? andwinding everyone up? i will tell you, it is because you are not bothered about the club, you just like to wind people up dont you Ed?
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 16:26:04 GMT 1
@ shrewstrustpress
You may not be concerned about who our major shareholding compnay is but i am, you only have to look down the road at Wrexham and Chester to see what kind of thing can happen, when fans take their eye off the ball.
For the record - I have not made any allegations of wrongdoing by Roland or the club, what i am simply asking is that in the interests of transparency, that the club make full disclosure about its Majority Shareholder.
I dont really see that as asking anything that shouldnt be asked of the custodians of our football club by default.
I have every right to anonymity if i so choose, just as you do.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 18, 2011 16:26:57 GMT 1
Everyone on here is anonymous unless they choose to make there real identity known to each other or the board in general, pretty much most people on here use an alias so i dont really consider asking for my privacy to be maintained as a serious issue that overides the actual issue at the heart of this debate. Please ask the question of the club by all means ElHurricane, i wish you good luck, but is that really a question that should even be being asked in the first place, surely full disclosure should already have been made as a matter of course? Like you say, it may in all likleyhood be BORING news, BUT once again, unless full disclosure is given, NOBODY, not even you will know the truth behind this secreative company. As i am led to understand, this issue concerning JEFREEN HOLDINGS LIMITED was discussed privately by the mods back in December and nobody knew anything about them or where they are registered. Like i also keep saying it MAY be nothing to worry about, but untill this companies accounts, shareholdings, directorsa and country of registration is fully disclosed by the club, then people will worry, and rightly so. Its up to the club now, to make a statement na dmake full disclosure of their own back, they shouldnt just think a couple of sentances in a Q& A ids going to satisfy peoples concerns, regardless of anything being amiss or not. 1 . you have no right to anonimity 2. if it "may" be nothing to worry about, as you say, so why come on here casting alsortsf doubt and suspicion? why not make some enquirys before gobbing off? andwinding everyone up? i will tell you, it is because you are not bothered about the club, you just like to wind people up dont you Ed? Marcus please shut up as you are boring everyone now repeating the same crap,any the mystery poster is not Ed. If you had have met Ed you would of known this plus ED only gets his links from the sun and daily star
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:27:22 GMT 1
@ shrewstrustpress You may not be concerned about who our major shareholding compnay is but i am, you only have to look down the road at Wrexham and Chester to see what kind of thing can happen, when fans take their eye off the ball. For the record - I have not made any allegations of wrongdoing by Roland or the club, what i am simply asking is that in the interests of transparency, that the club make full disclosure about its Majority Shareholder. I dont really see that as asking anything that shouldnt be asked of the custodians of our football club. I have every right to anonymity if i so choose, just as you do. simply wrong shrewed54
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:29:10 GMT 1
1 . you have no right to anonimity 2. if it "may" be nothing to worry about, as you say, so why come on here casting alsortsf doubt and suspicion? why not make some enquirys before gobbing off? andwinding everyone up? i will tell you, it is because you are not bothered about the club, you just like to wind people up dont you Ed? Marcus please shut up as you are boring everyone now repeating the same cr@p,any the mystery poster is not Ed. If you had have met Ed you would of known this plus ED only gets his links from the sun and daily star as eloquent as ever if that is all you have to add to the discussion, i suggest you pick the crayons back up and continue your colouring
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Post by differentcoco on May 18, 2011 16:30:14 GMT 1
With the greatest of respect, it is my right to anonymity that allows me to pose such questions in the first place, B****xs. Fed up with this now. Put up or shut up.
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 16:30:45 GMT 1
lol im not shrewed54 whoever that is im cypher..
I dont know who you are shrewstrustpress, i dont want to know who you are, and you have every right to remain in the shadows, just as i do.
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Post by cypher on May 18, 2011 16:33:34 GMT 1
Why do you need to know who i am, what diffetrence does it make to the issue being dabated? I dont know you, i dont need to know you, if you have a valid point, then why would that point carry less weight if you stay behind your current alias, your real name would mean nothing to me anyway, unless i knew you, which for all i know i might, but in all likelyhood i dont.
Who cares, what matters is the content, not the colouring.
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Post by spanishwaiter on May 18, 2011 16:36:04 GMT 1
Jon Harris also had an account on here at one time mmmmmmm food for thought
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:43:16 GMT 1
Jon Harris also had an account on here at one time mmmmmmm food for thought aye, maybe but i think he has other fish to fry trying to run Rexham. for me , i think it is shrewed or hope2010 or one of his other profiles. Could a mod disclose the previous username? that wouldnt be covered by anonimity as it is only a user name and not personal data
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on May 18, 2011 16:46:16 GMT 1
In fairness this all brings back memories of the Messiah
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Post by spanishwaiter on May 18, 2011 16:47:18 GMT 1
Jon Harris also had an account on here at one time mmmmmmm food for thought aye, maybe but i think he has other fish to fry trying to run Rexham. for me , i think it is shrewed or hope2010 or one of his other profiles. Could a mod disclose the previous username? that wouldnt be covered by anonimity as it is only a user name and not personal data This gets a thumbs up from me
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:47:28 GMT 1
In fairness this all brings back memories of the Messiah Ah , the good old days to be honest, the messiah was more entertaining
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 18, 2011 16:48:03 GMT 1
Didn't know Shrewstrust was Marcus aka Monkee, aka Eggman etc :-)
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Post by Minormorris64 on May 18, 2011 16:51:14 GMT 1
And before anybody thinks it maybe someone who likes looking at Accounts , it ain't me.................BUT when I first saw the change in shareholdings I was rather intrigued but I didn't want to bother you all with such tittle tattle Looking at the response today I am rather glad I didn't say anything at the time.........STFC as transparent......................................... as mud. Anyway my loan period is over............I do have a read now and again.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 16:52:19 GMT 1
Didn't know Shrewstrust was Marcus aka Monkee, aka Eggman etc :-) you have missed quite a few usernames out there. shrewstrustpress to be exact, i am not the trust, i just do the press bits this account was purely for info from the trust but sometimes i cant resist the great thing about a trust is that one person cannot possibly represent the diversity of the entire membership, or for that matter control it as a single entity. correct me if i am wrong, are you the chap called Leon? did you also have another username too?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on May 18, 2011 16:59:08 GMT 1
That's me
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Post by mrbunny on May 18, 2011 17:13:47 GMT 1
correct me if i am wrong, are you the chap called Leon? did you also have another username too? To be fair calling himself Wakemanshrew now would be rather pointless.
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Post by Shrewed on May 18, 2011 17:14:00 GMT 1
Well monkee I must say you are not much of a sleuth, if you think I am cypher. I must say, as I have before, that if I was a member of the Shrewsbury trust I'd not be very happy you using their name to serve your own vindictive purpose. This whole episode would have died a death hours ago if you'd shut up.
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 17:20:15 GMT 1
Well monkee I must say you are not much of a sleuth, if you think I am cypher. I must say, as I have before, that if I was a member of the Shrewsbury trust I'd not be very happy you using their name to serve your own vindictive purpose. This whole episode would have died a death hours ago if you'd shut up. maybe you should write to them and ask for my head although i did point out that it was not a trust opinion. always trying to silence others opnions arent you? but yes, its is probably best that we both "shut up" and leave it now vindictive? stones and glass houses spring to mind
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Post by eclipsechaser on May 18, 2011 17:23:22 GMT 1
You are saying that The Club is hiding information ?
Well you are nothing but cowardly in hiding your identity .
You are a HYPOCRITE !
No-one will take you seriously and
Will treat you with utter contempt , which you most certainly deserve!
If you have anything to say , PUT YOUR NAME TO IT !
Until then , you are COWARD !
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Post by heavenlyshrew on May 18, 2011 17:23:28 GMT 1
Marcus it was not that long ago since you lost your head so to speak with the trust.Correct me if i am wrong
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Post by shrewsTRUST on May 18, 2011 17:24:45 GMT 1
Marcus it was not that long ago since you lost your head so to speak with the trust.Correct me if i am wrong you are wrong
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