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Post by OswestrySalopian on Mar 17, 2011 22:25:35 GMT 1
If there ever has been a 'crunch' game, it has to be on Saturday. Off the back of a 5-0 Drubbing, it's vital that the players put on a winning performance, and bring some confidence back to the fans. A win for us on Saturday will put us just a point from the Automatic places, whilst a defeat will see us 7 points from the top 3,and maybe even out of the playoffs. Is this game the first of the 'Make or break' f the season?
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Post by Jonah on Mar 17, 2011 22:58:29 GMT 1
Well IMO the season is already broken
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 22:59:23 GMT 1
Where has the Jonah gone from last season? Almost complete role reversal this year mate!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 23:04:50 GMT 1
All games are like cup finals now but this one will certainly test the lad's spirit after the thrashing last weekend. I thought we played some great stuff down at Wycombe so am hopeful for a repeat performance but all 3 points this time
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Post by Jonah on Mar 17, 2011 23:06:15 GMT 1
Where has the Jonah gone from last season? Almost complete role reversal this year mate! Sorry Ant but just being realistic mate I have said before that I hope I am proven wrong but I just can't see it. Simple really we are just not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 23:10:15 GMT 1
We certainly aren't the strongest team in this league and dare I say we're not the second best either but that third place is up for grabs, no doubt about it in my mind and that to me is being realistic. I also very much doubt that the fans of those other sides going for that spot think either they're a cert for it or that we're definitley out of it. I'd like to be proven wrong on the first line of this post too
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 23:10:40 GMT 1
I don't think it's Make or Break. A draw will keep things pretty much as they are I expect.
But it's a fair point that a loss (combined with a Bury draw or win) would make automatic promotion a real ask.
I still think we'll go into the last 3 games of the season with a lot to play for.
Jonah - you were proven very wrong in 2008-10 mate!
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Post by albionshrew on Mar 17, 2011 23:15:53 GMT 1
Re: Break? The performance at Torquay was such a joke I think we are already broke. (Apologies for the unintentional rhyme ).
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Post by Jonah on Mar 17, 2011 23:18:32 GMT 1
Was I Gareth? Please explain.
From memory I supported our manager which is exactly what you are doing now isn't it?
What's the difference then?
IMO the football we are watching today is no better than the bad old days of PS.
Fact but like I say I hope I am proved wrong.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 17, 2011 23:18:33 GMT 1
Agree with both Ant and Welshshrew's posts.
By 35/36 games, you're not usually in a false position.
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Post by elmundo on Mar 17, 2011 23:21:31 GMT 1
IMO the football we are watching today is no better than the bad old days of PS. Must have been going to different games to me then
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 23:27:43 GMT 1
Was I Gareth? Please explain. From memory I supported our manager which is exactly what you are doing now isn't it? What's the difference then? IMO the football we are watching today is no better than the bad old days of PS. Fact but like I say I hope I am proved wrong. I just find it extremely odd the lengths you went to in order to defend Paul Simpson, yet with the Town sat four points off 3rd place and with the opportunity to reduce that to one point with 9 games left to go, you state the season is already broken. It doesn't come as any surprise though really as you've rarely come down on the optimistic side of looking at the Town and the managers (not that there's anything wrong with that!). The surprise for me was always how much you backed Paul Simpson from Day 1 right through to his dismissal. I just don't understand why that is?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2011 23:30:30 GMT 1
Was I Gareth? Please explain. IMO the football we are watching today is no better than the bad old days of PS. Fact but like I say I hope I am proved wrong. I don't where you get your "Fact" from, but IMO the football is without doubt better.
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Post by Jonah on Mar 17, 2011 23:41:58 GMT 1
It is purely my opinion and again I hope I am proved wrong. Gareth get over PS will you I have I have seen it to many times to be optimistic. Oh and by the way I was right about Ratcliffe,Quinn and Peters so that's not a bad record
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Post by jaytee on Mar 18, 2011 0:01:03 GMT 1
I can see both sides here. Torquay was awful. But the other teams are no better than us. It's wide open.
Personally, I can see GT bringing someone in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 0:21:18 GMT 1
It is purely my opinion and again I hope I am proved wrong. Gareth get over PS will you I have I have seen it to many times to be optimistic. Oh and by the way I was right about Ratcliffe,Quinn and Peters so that's not a bad record Nope, you were wrong about Quinn (just like I was!) He got us promoted despite our assertions he wouldn't. PS Why do we keep going over old ground.....
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Post by Pilch on Mar 18, 2011 0:39:09 GMT 1
i personally think we might just limp into the play offs but will get taught a lesson in the semis
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Post by ambergambler on Mar 18, 2011 8:18:03 GMT 1
i personally think we might just limp into the play offs but will get taught a lesson in the semis Trust me Vale will be in the Play offs and we will meet at some point! The football this season is better Quality but as Jaytee says wide open and at least one team will make a late run into playoffs again.
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Post by mrbunny on Mar 18, 2011 8:52:53 GMT 1
We should still make the playoffs but if we are to go up automatically then we need to go on a decent winning run starting tomorrow. Can't see that happening so lottery of playoffs it is again.
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Post by northwestman on Mar 18, 2011 9:14:48 GMT 1
i personally think we might just limp into the play offs but will get taught a lesson in the semis Trust me Vale will be in the Play offs and we will meet at some point! The football this season is better Quality but as Jaytee says wide open and at least one team will make a late run into playoffs again. That team has already started its late run and will be a real threat in the playoffs. That team is Torquay. The other possibility is Accrington.
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Post by mattmw on Mar 18, 2011 9:26:42 GMT 1
This is far from a vintage Town side, but then it's not a fantastic league 2 this season either. From the position we are in now there is no reason why we can't - with a bit of luck - get automatic promotion. Think there is a fine line between the season being a success or a disappointment.
think we need key players like Wright, Ainsworth and Harrold to stay fit and find their best form and for a couple of other players to up their game. Bradshaw could get us some important goals and if other sides get some injuries it's all in the mix.
That said a defeat on Saturday would be a big knock to our confidence and I think anymore than 2 defeats before the end of the season will see us struggle
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Post by texmexshrew on Mar 18, 2011 10:39:27 GMT 1
Was I Gareth? Please explain. From memory I supported our manager which is exactly what you are doing now isn't it? What's the difference then? IMO the football we are watching today is no better than the bad old days of PS. Fact but like I say I hope I am proved wrong. Are you seriously saying the football we have been playing is NO BETTER than the worst Simpleton offered up?! I think Turner has seen to address any weaknesses along the way - especially with mid season overhaul of the Centre Midfield. Only our Keeper position is weaker IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 10:58:11 GMT 1
if we dont win tomorrow i believe we can kiss good by to the automatic places.
a 5 nil drubbing is tough to come back from especially as we seem to struggle against any of our promotion rivals.
If we do loose tomorrow, i wouldnt be suprised to see us slide and get over taken in the play off slots.
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Mar 18, 2011 11:59:56 GMT 1
if we dont win tomorrow i believe we can kiss good by to the automatic places. a 5 nil drubbing is tough to come back from especially as we seem to struggle against any of our promotion rivals. If we do loose tomorrow, i wouldnt be suprised to see us slide and get over taken in the play off slots. I would say if we dont loose tomorrow i would say we are still in with a big shout of a top 3 finish. Shrewsbury have not done it the easy way the last few years when we made the play offs. Yes we would need a big slice of luck but its about time we had some. We are due a couple of pens or a couple of o.g to even out what has gone against us so far this season.
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Post by blue and ambar on Mar 18, 2011 14:09:05 GMT 1
if we dont win tomorrow i believe we can kiss good by to the automatic places. a 5 nil drubbing is tough to come back from especially as we seem to struggle against any of our promotion rivals. If we do loose tomorrow, i wouldnt be suprised to see us slide and get over taken in the play off slots. Talk about writing off the season. Most clubs supporters fear the worst after a hammering, its only natural but what happened last week shouldn't affect this. This season's outcome does look uncertain but there are still 10 games left and we are in a decent position within the chasing pack, lets just see what happens shall we?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 15:02:40 GMT 1
Interesting one this, wont decide anything mathmatically but perhaps it terms of fan, player and club moral it might,
A win whether conceiving or not will do everyone the world of good and put some faith that we can challenge again for an automatic place, a draw and things stay the same with lots of questions still unanswered, lose and I expect lots of angry and very worried supporters, with a lot of panic around the club,
we should be looking to at still hold out against Wycombe i feel, if we can't win, a draw would not be a bad result, personally I just hope its a good game
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Mar 18, 2011 15:04:17 GMT 1
Interesting one this, wont decide anything mathmatically but perhaps it terms of fan, player and club moral it might, A win whether conceiving or not will do everyone the world of good and put some faith that we can challenge again for an automatic place, a draw and things stay the same with lots of questions still unanswered, lose and I expect lots of angry and very worried supporters, with a lot of panic around the club, we should be looking to at still hold out against Wycombe i feel, if we can't win, a draw would not be a bad result, personally I just hope its a good game I would believe and hope that win,draw or lose, the only people panicking will be on this board.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 15:54:21 GMT 1
if we dont win tomorrow i believe we can kiss good by to the automatic places. a 5 nil drubbing is tough to come back from especially as we seem to struggle against any of our promotion rivals. If we do loose tomorrow, i wouldnt be suprised to see us slide and get over taken in the play off slots. Talk about writing off the season. Most clubs supporters fear the worst after a hammering, its only natural but what happened last week shouldn't affect this. This season's outcome does look uncertain but there are still 10 games left and we are in a decent position within the chasing pack, lets just see what happens shall we? If the don't like the answer perhaps the question should not have been asked. And are you really so naive as to think that last weeks 5 nil drubbing against our promotion rivals is not going to hit our moral and give a boost to those around us and trying to catch us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2011 17:16:32 GMT 1
I wouldn't quite call it make or break.
The thing with league 2 (this season being no real difference to any other) is that if you string 3 or 4 wins together it pushes you into a very strong position. I think we'll be fighting for automatic promotion come the last few games of the season, independent of the result tomorrow.
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Post by WindsorShrew on Mar 18, 2011 17:24:50 GMT 1
Not going am off to watch the Gunners at West Brom instead....
That said from what I have seen we are best off waiting a season as we are by no means good enough to go up this year..in that I don't want to go up for a year and then straight back down ala Hereford.
Mr Turner has I feel progressed this term, next will be his test I don't feel he will get X amount of attempts he had at Hereford here.
Simply put we are not good enough and will be very lucky to scrape a play off final.
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