|
Post by southshropblue on Mar 1, 2011 22:58:46 GMT 1
firstly congratulations to Bury they were much better than us and to Ryan Lowe What was GP thinking about letting him go on a free questions are: 1 Why did Taylor get subbed? 2Why do we put subs on so late I would have thought at 2-0 it was time to make a change 3 why are we useless at set pieces these days?In GP's day they were the only goals we scored now we hardly ever score from them ,there must be a happy medium! Why were players pulling out of tackles tonight I think we can still get promotion but I think if we do it will be via the play offs
|
|
shrws1
Shropshire County League
Posts: 40
|
Post by shrws1 on Mar 1, 2011 23:01:01 GMT 1
well he has no idea what hes doin pressures getting to him already get a grip man
|
|
|
Post by Pilch on Mar 1, 2011 23:08:49 GMT 1
Taylor was our only hope The sub ended all hope
Not heard 'one Graham turner' sung recently
That has to be our worst home performance for a decade or so
|
|
|
Post by Mike on Mar 1, 2011 23:10:20 GMT 1
I've got a question.
How does GT consider James Collins better than Jake Robinson?
|
|
|
Post by stockportershrew on Mar 1, 2011 23:11:56 GMT 1
That has to be our worst home performance for a decade or so Said on the other thread it's our worst home result since the relegation season I think. These things happen. Hope we can up our game for saturday and especially for next tuesday.
|
|
shrws1
Shropshire County League
Posts: 40
|
Post by shrws1 on Mar 1, 2011 23:12:10 GMT 1
lets look to the next match
|
|
|
Post by mightyshrew on Mar 1, 2011 23:14:29 GMT 1
ok the lad hit the bar and I have been impressed by him but tonight, other than effort what did Taylor give us. He never beat the full back at all.
|
|
blue4u
Shropshire County League
Posts: 65
|
Post by blue4u on Mar 1, 2011 23:30:59 GMT 1
Having always pushed for the young lads to play,Jonny Taylor offers a lot of effort but of late little or no quality which at this stage of the season is needed.He runs and runs but you need more than workrate to reach the next stage.
|
|
|
Post by shrew4life on Mar 1, 2011 23:32:52 GMT 1
Another question. Why is Taylor taking corners when he clearly can't cross from a dead ball situation? He just floats the ball in. Every corner or free kick bury had threatened us.
Why when we get a long free kick do we never drop the ball deep in the box? We always kick it half heartedly near the outskirts of the area where it's easily defended.
Why can't we put in through balls?
Why oh why, oh why will we not shoot when we have a bit of space? It's infuriating that our first thought is to just get rid of the ball.
|
|
|
Post by southshropblue on Mar 1, 2011 23:33:56 GMT 1
Having always pushed for the young lads to play,Jonny Taylor offers a lot of effort but of late little or no quality which at this stage of the season is needed.He runs and runs but you need more than workrate to reach the next stage. Respect your view but disagree- I thought he troubled their defense more than anyone else though he was caught out of position a couple of times
|
|
|
Post by forestryman on Mar 1, 2011 23:37:46 GMT 1
with all the effort put in, i thought he was beginning to look a bit ragged. would rather have seen van den broek go on though.
james collins had a poor night in front of goal but i suppose you have to tolerate that occasionally with younger players.
Mark Wright was poor as was wroe and davis.
players have also pulled out of tackles when we have won games, but maybe we ignore them until we lose
|
|
blue4u
Shropshire County League
Posts: 65
|
Post by blue4u on Mar 1, 2011 23:44:11 GMT 1
Jake Simpson was crucified for not beating his man or getting crosses in how many did we get off our wide men tonight.We have Matty Harrold at centreforward yet we don't put decent ball into the box from our wide men
|
|
Aub
Midland League Division Two
Posts: 221
|
Post by Aub on Mar 1, 2011 23:54:26 GMT 1
[quote author=admin board=general thread=71700 post=886830 time=1299017
That has to be our worst home performance for a decade or so[/quote] Utter rubbish and total over reaction. Up until their 2nd goal we were probably the better side and created a fair few chances. Fair enough the last 20mins they knocked it around for fun but the wonder strike for the 3rd goal gave them the luxury to do so. There is no way that was worse than the Darlo match last season.
|
|
|
Post by SouthStandShrew on Mar 1, 2011 23:56:35 GMT 1
[quote author=admin board=general thread=71700 post=886830 time=1299017 That has to be our worst home performance for a decade or so Utter rubbish and total over reaction. Up until their 2nd goal we were probably the better side and created a fair few chances. Fair enough the last 20mins they knocked it around for fun but the wonder strike for the 3rd goal gave them the luxury to do so. There is no way that was worse than the Darlo match last season.[/quote] Darlo last season was the lowest ever.
|
|
|
Post by hooverfoxhat on Mar 1, 2011 23:59:38 GMT 1
For half an hour we played some good passing football and looked a better team than our showings against the likes of Burton, Stevenage and Gillingham, guilty within that period of missing 3 gilt edge chances - put those away and the messageboard would be full of praise for what would probably have been a relatively comfortable win - the last half hour was poor with too may players going missing but worst performance in lord knows how many years, no way, time for a reality check for some methinks.
|
|
|
Post by elderstatesman on Mar 2, 2011 0:05:59 GMT 1
We do not have a great record against the teams around us and these are the teams we will have to beat if we end up in the play offs.Disappointed with the performance tonight,Bennet is the first decent player Grandison has faced and I don't think he coped that well,and the back four in general looked very shaky,lets just hope nothing else happens to Sharps.A good result Saturday will lift everyone though and lets go again.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2011 0:19:25 GMT 1
In my view this is the best chance we've had at automatic promotion since 1994.
Most seasons, you will need 80+ points to get promoted - 83 points would have got you promoted in all but 2 out of the last 10 years, whilst 79 points would have only been enough once.
Are we going to get to 83 points - i.e. 10 wins and a draw from the last 13 games? I very much doubt it.
However, this year my feeling from the way it's panning out is that any team that goes into the final day with 74 or 75 points will still be in the hunt for automatic promotion. Can we pick up 22 points from the next 12 games? Yes, absolutely.
I wouldn't rather any other manager from this division being in charge of this set of players, and I think by April we could well be in an automatic promotion race which would be a fantatic achievement by GT.
The smart money is on the play-offs and unless we really drop off again, then that looks likely, but I'm certainly not ruling out 3rd place.
The talk of a championship is nonsense and needs to stop now though.
|
|
|
Post by theyesman on Mar 2, 2011 0:20:55 GMT 1
Apparently Turner thought we played well apart from the last 20 minutes... The view from the side must be different to from behind the goal..
|
|
|
Post by Bordershrew on Mar 2, 2011 0:27:03 GMT 1
Was it that bad?
We created 3 or 4 VERY good chances which should have been buried, Bury had 3 shots on target and scored 3 goals? It could have been 4-3 on a better day!
We were in the game until the 2nd goal where we started to lose our way a bit, this is when changes should have been made.
Massive overreaction to what was a poor result, but one that doesn't give a true reflection of the game in my opinion.
COYB.
|
|
|
Post by southshropblue on Mar 2, 2011 0:28:36 GMT 1
Any thoughts on why we seem so poor from set pieces these days?
|
|
|
Post by daveshrew on Mar 2, 2011 0:56:05 GMT 1
That has to be our worst home performance for a decade or so Really? I must have been at a different game. Hit the post, hit the bar. Best football I've seen us play since before Christmas in the first half (I didn't go to lincoln).
|
|
|
Post by daveshrew on Mar 2, 2011 0:59:10 GMT 1
For half an hour we played some good passing football and looked a better team than our showings against the likes of Burton, Stevenage and Gillingham, guilty within that period of missing 3 gilt edge chances - put those away and the messageboard would be full of praise for what would probably have been a relatively comfortable win - the last half hour was poor with too may players going missing but worst performance in lord knows how many years, no way, time for a reality check for some methinks. Totally agree.
|
|
|
Post by elmundo on Mar 2, 2011 1:00:33 GMT 1
Was it that bad? We created 3 or 4 VERY good chances which should have been buried, Bury had 3 shots on target and scored 3 goals? It could have been 4-3 on a better day! We were in the game until the 2nd goal where we started to lose our way a bit, this is when changes should have been made. Massive overreaction to what was a poor result, but one that doesn't give a true reflection of the game in my opinion. COYB. Spot on.
|
|
|
Post by Liam on Mar 2, 2011 1:14:14 GMT 1
An overreaction. We were the better side for an hour until we went 2-0 down. There is no way in hell that was worse than the likes of Darlington or Staines. In fact, I'm not even sure if it was worse than Crewe this season.
Taylor hit the bar.
From the rebound, Harrold missed a sitter.
Taylor put in a beautiful cross from which Collins missed an even bigger sitter.
It was Taylor's persistence that set up Wroe to hit the post.
In fact, it is no exaggeration to say that all bar one of our best chances tonight occured due to work by Jon Taylor. I do agree that his set pieces were poor, however.
This is a legit point and it's this more than anything that's going to cost us promotion.
Good post.
I agree with most of that, although I do think the last 20-25 minutes were unacceptable, and for that reason the final scoreline didn't flatter Bury as much as the scoreline did after an hour or so.
|
|
|
Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 2, 2011 1:20:40 GMT 1
biggest problem in my mind was that at 2-0 down and an hour gone it was obvious we weren't going to score the way it was - for all our efforts we rarely got any on target and by this point it just simply wasn't working as it was.
despite this we didn't make a change of players or tactics until about 72 mins - not even swapping wingers sides. we then made a pretty like for like sub in replacing taylor for ainsworth - leaving on the ineffective wright - and then shortly after (6mins) when ainsworth had made no impact, we then took off collins for leslie (a left footer), and moved ainsworth up front - still leaving wright on the left were he'd had a poor game.
like i say we needed changes earlier and a different plan. that's the most worrying thing for me about tonight.
i'd have loved to see Van den Brook get a chance - it would have been something different and at 2-0 down and going knowwhere i can't see it would have been too much of a risk either
|
|
|
Post by weststandshrew on Mar 2, 2011 1:28:31 GMT 1
I think worst home performance of the decade is an over-reaction. Yes it was worst home performance of the season but 3-0 defeat at home to Darlo and one or two others towards end of last season were worse.
|
|
|
Post by Liam on Mar 2, 2011 1:37:51 GMT 1
I think worst home performance of the decade is an over-reaction. Yes it was worst home performance of the season but 3-0 defeat at home to Darlo and one or two others towards end of last season were worse. There was also the small matter of us getting relegated in 2002/2003! I admit I can't remember too many individual games off the top of my head, but I'd extremely be surprised if there weren't some horrors in that particular season that far outstripped anything we saw tonight.
|
|
|
Post by stfcfan87 on Mar 2, 2011 2:33:24 GMT 1
Sorry I don't think it was the worst performance of the season - Crewe at home was that or Morecombe. Games where we created absolutely nothing and were never ever in.
Tonight wasn't great but it wasn't a patch on those games.
And sorry Staines is still the worst performance I have ever seen from Shrewsbury by a long long way.
|
|
|
Post by Dale on Mar 2, 2011 12:13:43 GMT 1
I thought we created some excellent chances but simply fluffed them all, I dont even think the players heads dropped until the final 20 minutes when the players seemed to give up a little, far too panicky in possession at times though and we needed a experienced vocal leader to calm things down a little, unfortunately the only person who can seem to do that in our squad was suspended last night!
A bad night at the office, need to bounce back quickly at Northampton and it will be a good test of the players resolve and character.
|
|
ercallshrew
Midland League Division One
Perfect72
Posts: 437
|
Post by ercallshrew on Mar 2, 2011 14:26:05 GMT 1
its the morning after the night before and after listening to the idiots calling/texting in to radio shropshire last night i decided to give the board a break till today, good job too looking at all the wrist slashers on here , talk about an utter over reaction , ok on face value a 3-0 defeat sounds awful but in a open first half after burys first ( from a defence blunder) we hit the post and bar from the rebound all in all it could easily been 1-1, 2-2 at ht........we passed the ball around well early in the game something that seemed foreign to us all game against gillingham..poor old jon taylor hardly saw the ball we seem to only use one side of the pitch at least he saw more of it in the 2nd half when on the" favoured" side......
in the second half we needed a good start unfortunatly we came out the blocks slow and bury get a second just after we had a good chance.. jon taylors cross left collins two yards out but he slips it over the bar , and wroe hits the post, and bury get a good third, and then admittidly the last twenty mins are then poor from us.........but if we had just taken our chances and the upsurge of scoring would have given us a totally different outcome , maybe still a defeat but it would have looked far more upbeat. the guys now have to regroup and get stuck into northampton , if we are guilty of one thing its not taking our chances something that has plagued us at times all season we need to be clinical........
im not looking at this through rose tinted glasses and there are improvements needed in certain areas but to say it was our worst performance get a grip, i do worry about the managers subs i wonder what craig disley has done wrong when he cant get on when we looked in need of some midfield creativity , and why take jon taylor off when he soon after took collins off and could have swapped for lional then , jon taylor was at least making inroads down the flank in that period of the game ...... we lost to a good bury side and we do need to win these games but the performance for most part didnt warrent a scoreline like that , gillingham was dire ... its now a case of responding and hopefully the manager will shake things up , id like to see disley and maybe vdb get a run out but all is not lost ,so come on get a win on saturday and all the plonkers will be saying we can win the league then ...lol.....rough with the smooth lets move on be positive .........:-)
|
|