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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2005 1:56:54 GMT 1
Danny K is in then.
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Post by CuyBlue on May 6, 2005 1:58:49 GMT 1
Daniel Kawczynski Conservative 18,960 37.7 +0.3 Mike Ion Labour 17,152 34.1 -10.5 Richard Burt Liberal Democrat 11,487 22.8 +10.4 Peter Lewis UK Independence Party 1,349 2.7 -0.5 Emma Bullard Green 1,138 2.3 +0.4 James Gollins Independent 126 0.3 -0.2 Nigel Harris World 84 0.2 +0.2
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 2:01:03 GMT 1
looks like we have the Lib dems to thank for this All I can say is in Danny K's favour he was the only candidate to come to the shrewsTRUST open meeting but against him He is allegedly a slippery opportunist politician who does not give a toss about shrewsbury but only hung out here for a chance at westminster
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2005 2:10:22 GMT 1
looks like we have the Lib dems to thank for this There's a few of them on here that may wish to respond to that, but I think Mr Paul Marsden did an excellent job for the Tory Party campaign.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 2:15:04 GMT 1
I am sure they will want to respond to that, and it is their democratic right what i want to know is why Burt sent me a letter two days ago saying it was him or the Tories, yet i heard him on Radio Shriopshire tonight saying it was Labour or the Tories The Lib dem vote goes up and lets the Tories back in That means I have personal evidence that Danny K (allegedly) and the Lib Dems have been dishonest to try and win Shrewsbury Looks like I might have to stand as the next Labour candidate, if only to be honest about local politics
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2005 2:28:06 GMT 1
I've spent the last week or so listening to the Labour Party (and ExKeeper on another thread) as a whole tell me how voting for Lib Dems will let the Tories into power.
Total b******s all along.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 2:30:18 GMT 1
Voting Lib dems ALWAYS let's the Tories into power in a Labour marginal seat this politcis thing is not rocket science
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Post by BlueinTF5 NLI on May 6, 2005 2:43:41 GMT 1
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Post by rob on May 6, 2005 3:25:59 GMT 1
Is this surprising, the people of shrewsbury a chance on Paul marsdon, a chance on Labour and feel as if they've been screwed over. Its little wonder they went back to the conservatives. As for Danny K, to be fair to him, his picture keeps cropping up in the star and chronicle and his name has been appearing in the letters page of the star for a good year or so. As for voting lib dems resulting in the conservatives getting back in. Take a look at the government majority. Utter b******s. 36% of the vote and they are cruising towards a majority of 55/60+ What were you saying again the other day about FPTP being the best democratic system for voting in a government again Dave???
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2005 3:34:25 GMT 1
Bollox
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Post by carsonshrew on May 6, 2005 5:57:41 GMT 1
All I can say is in Danny K's favour he was the only candidate to come to the shrewsTRUST open meeting You're right about him being opportunist Dave. He turned up to that meeting, made sure he had schmoozed (sp?) with everyone important, then left half way through. I swear I did not see him come back after the break. Think my local - Jon Tandy - stayed for the whole thing though.
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Post by ianwhit on May 6, 2005 6:00:55 GMT 1
got up and watched telly, labour still in so was happy, switch to local news and shrewsury now have the tallest mp, now depressed...
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Post by jamo on May 6, 2005 6:16:22 GMT 1
looks like we have the Lib dems to thank for this All I can say is in Danny K's favour he was the only candidate to come to the shrewsTRUST open meeting ....Yes he attended alright. Had his photo taken and then left. This is a bad day for Shrewsbury, not because we have a tory MP, we are after all a conservative town. But because we are now saddled with a careeer politician who gives not one toss for us or our local concerns. Marsden has a lot to answer for
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Post by harmerhillshrew on May 6, 2005 6:43:27 GMT 1
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Post by blue 44 on May 6, 2005 6:57:59 GMT 1
This is a bad day for Shrewsbury, not because we have a tory MP, we are after all a conservative town. But because we are now saddled with a careeer politician who gives not one toss for us or our local concerns. Marsden has a lot to answer for I sthere any other kind of politician after all Blair is not from the North East Howard not from Folkstone The key to Danny K will not be where he came from(Herefordshire?) but what he does for the town If its nothing he wont be in again but after the shambles of Marsden a change could have been expected and I think The Lib Dems did pretty well here and may do better next time The War is what did for a 100 Labour MPs they CAn only blame Blair for that!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 7:18:24 GMT 1
I have had 4 hours sleep and have modified my thinking The Lib Dems are not to blame They didn;t invade Iraq The one million people on the streets of London campaigning against the war should have been listened to
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 7:27:34 GMT 1
36% of the vote and they are cruising towards a majority of 55/60+ What were you saying again the other day about FPTP being the best democratic system for voting in a government again Dave??? Today we have a strong, yet humbled government I don't believe that would be the case without the current system
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Post by Parker unlogged on May 6, 2005 7:28:22 GMT 1
So the world would be a better place with dictator Saddam Hussein still in power then?, sometimes you just have to look at the bigger picture.
Yes the deaths are extremely sad, but when you sign up you know the risks.
OK, there were no WMD, but the world is a far better place without Saddam in power, just ask the majority of the Iraqi people.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 6, 2005 7:31:54 GMT 1
No one disagree with that point
I look forward to use invading Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia, North Korea and China in this electoral term of office
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Post by soupie not logged in on May 6, 2005 8:01:19 GMT 1
You're right about him being opportunist Dave. He turned up to that meeting, made sure he had schmoozed (sp?) with everyone important, then left half way through. I swear I did not see him come back after the break. quote] You're quite right - heleft just before the second half started and did not come back. I spoke to him as he was leaving, and he told me he was sorry he couldn't stay, but he had another engagement to attend. He was the only candidate to make an appearance.
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Post by john on May 6, 2005 8:11:53 GMT 1
Im very saddened by this People will soon find out that DK is using this for a stepping stone for his own future abd he'll hand pick or his advisers will who it is best for him to serve in Shrewsbury. My message to Labour is get Gordon Brown in now
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Post by scooter on May 6, 2005 8:13:40 GMT 1
I look forward to us invading Zimbabwe, Saudi Arabia, North Korea and China in this electoral term of office I don't see you getting elected on that platform
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Post by grinfish on May 6, 2005 8:26:14 GMT 1
So the world would be a better place with dictator Saddam Hussein still in power then?, sometimes you just have to look at the bigger picture. Yes the deaths are extremely sad, but when you sign up you know the risks. OK, there were no WMD, but the world is a far better place without Saddam in power, just ask the majority of the Iraqi people. The bigger picture? "Yes, we ousted an evil man - to help the US get at his oil reserves. And it only the misleading of Our electorate! But we'll leave all the other tyrants, they haven't got anything worth having, and we haven't got any nasty rumours to spread about them beyond the usual."
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Post by matt on May 6, 2005 8:59:31 GMT 1
Daniel K is a useless.... i suggest everyone here writes to him with their grievences and see just how little we matter to him. say what you like about Marsden but as a constituency MP he was worth 10 derek conways. makes my life easier anyway, wasn't sure whether to come back to live in Shrews after i graduate - definately won't be doing that now.
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Post by Exkeeper on May 6, 2005 9:05:56 GMT 1
Welshshrew, the protest vote to the Lib Dems in Shrewsbury, shows that a vote for a party with no hope, lets in the least favoured alternative. This probably also happened in a number of other constituencies. Luckily, the nation as a whole, were wise enough to recognise that a party so weak in opposition, would not be strong enough to govern. also, some, like myself have lived through long term Tory governments, and remember paying 15% mortgage rates, inflated poll tax charges and countless other rip-offs.
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Post by Parker on May 6, 2005 9:12:01 GMT 1
Daniel K is a useless.... i suggest everyone here writes to him with their grievences and see just how little we matter to him. say what you like about Marsden but as a constituency MP he was worth 10 derek conways. makes my life easier anyway, wasn't sure whether to come back to live in Shrews after i graduate - definately won't be doing that now. Speak as you find- if thats the case Marsden is a useless prat of a glory hunter. Left Labour to try and jump on the increasing popularity that is Lib Dem and when that didnt work tried to go back to Labour who didnt want him. Put three matters to Mr Marsden over the years, who did nothing about one of them and could not even be bothered to give a reply to the other two. Thats how much we mattered to him as a constituency.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2005 9:14:47 GMT 1
Welshshrew, the protest vote to the Lib Dems in Shrewsbury, shows that a vote for a party with no hope, lets in the least favoured alternative. This probably also happened in a number of other constituencies. Luckily, the nation as a whole, were wise enough to recognise that a party so weak in opposition, would not be strong enough to govern. also, some, like myself have lived through long term Tory governments, and remember paying 15% mortgage rates, inflated poll tax charges and countless other rip-offs. First of all, interesting to hear you use the 'protest vote' phrase. I find that utterly patronising whenever politicians of any party use it. It is possible to define every single vote cast as a 'protest' vote of some kind, whether anti-Tory, anti-Labour, anti-establishment, anti-BNP, anti-candidate etc. etc. Don't try and get out of the simple fact that people in their droves did not want to vote Labour Secondly you stated that voting for the Lib Dems would let the Tories in nationally. That was total and utter b******s. At least admit that? I am by no means a die hard Tory. In many places last night I would have voted Lib Dem (possibly even Shrewsbury - I don';t know) but let's cut beneath the crap and look at things realistically eh?
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Post by matt on May 6, 2005 9:19:58 GMT 1
Speak as you find- if thats the case Marsden is a useless prat of a glory hunter. Left Labour to try and jump on the increasing popularity that is Lib Dem and when that didnt work tried to go back to Labour who didnt want him. Put three matters to Mr Marsden over the years, who did nothing about one of them and could not even be bothered to give a reply to the other two. Thats how much we mattered to him as a constituency. and there was me thinking he left Labour over the Afghanistan issue. how wrong could i be! I totally forgot how he was simply trapped by the bedazzling glory and success of the Lib Dem's (ahem) Have much contact with Conway then did you?
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Post by True_Shrew on May 6, 2005 9:20:46 GMT 1
Here Here Welshrew
Lib Dems are starting to benefit on the nations feelings about Labour, could be very interesting in 4 years....
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Post by Parker on May 6, 2005 9:20:56 GMT 1
Seems to me that as we again have a Labour Government more "droves of people" still voted Labour, did they not?
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