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Post by Mr Swing 0meter on May 3, 2005 11:45:04 GMT 1
Shrewsbury looks like it could be close on Thursday.
Putting your personal preferences aside who do you think will actually win?
Looks like it could be a Tory gain but it is very clsoe.
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 11:47:44 GMT 1
Betfair put Daniel K at 1.57, Ion at 2.0 and any other at 6.0.
Clear message to Lib Dem voters - don't throw a vote away, vote for the candidate most likely to keep the Tories out.
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Post by Guest on May 3, 2005 11:49:04 GMT 1
Odd's are on the blues but you never know the blues haven't been doing so well in the locals
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 11:50:04 GMT 1
Would you vote for the person who puts an advert in the Town's programme but won't reply to e-mailed questions about it?
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 11:51:12 GMT 1
Possibly, yes. It's a busy time you know. Which candidate are you referring to?
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 11:52:15 GMT 1
Possibly, yes. It's a busy time you know. Which candidate are you referring to? The only one that has put an advert in The Town's programme.
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 11:53:25 GMT 1
I think it is obvious from my earlier post that I have not noticed one.
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 11:54:00 GMT 1
Mike Ion
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Post by AFCBowya on May 3, 2005 11:55:43 GMT 1
Mike Ion used to teach me - and always was a pretentious idiot.
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 11:56:26 GMT 1
Right. Well, I hardly think that makes him unelectable.
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Post by AFCBowya on May 3, 2005 11:58:15 GMT 1
OK - just offering my point of view.
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Post by Guest on May 3, 2005 11:58:26 GMT 1
Mike Ion used to teach me - and always was a pretentious idiot. but that does, upsetting Telford fans
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Post by scooter on May 3, 2005 11:58:38 GMT 1
Would you vote for the person who puts an advert in the Town's programme but won't reply to e-mailed questions about it? I assume it was Ion from Martin's posts about this before. I don't see the objection - advertising in the programme is a commercial transaction, you don't have to be a supporter. Danny K a full page advert in the Chronicle to tell us about his name - it is his choice, he's paying.
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 12:01:44 GMT 1
Doesn't matter to me who had put the advert in the programme I would still have been having a go at them. Don't like politics and sport mixing. I can just about accept a sitting MP advertising local surgeries but trying to buy votes by saying I support Shrewsbury Town is a bit weak. With regards to no reply I would have thought now was the time candidates wanting to converse with people to try to win their votes. Ignoring them is a good way to switch people off. He won't be geting my vote
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2005 12:01:44 GMT 1
Clear message to Lib Dem voters - don't throw a vote away, vote for the candidate most likely to keep the Tories out. Unless you, as many Lib Dem voters do, are more natually a Conservative voter than a Labour voter.
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 12:04:21 GMT 1
Maybe so, but I imagine a lot of people considering voting Lib Dem at this election are long-term Labour voters upset over Iraq, who could just shoot themselves in the foot in Shrewsbury, and allow Danny K a massive victory
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 12:05:15 GMT 1
I assume it was Ion from Martin's posts about this before. I don't see the objection - advertising in the programme is a commercial transaction, you don't have to be a supporter. Danny K a full page advert in the Chronicle to tell us about his name - it is his choice, he's paying. No complaint about the programme here just I don't like any candidates approach to try to use sport to get votes. If he gets elected I will be expecting him to show his support by advertising next season or sponsoring a player. I did ask him some questions on Labour policies as well but suspect he didn't want to answer them because he can't. (All linked to his advert)
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Post by AFCBowya on May 3, 2005 12:06:03 GMT 1
Incidentally Mike Ion is a staunch Manure fan, I seem to remember. More reasons not to vote for him
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Post by welshshrew5 on May 3, 2005 12:08:35 GMT 1
Maybe so, but I imagine a lot of people considering voting Lib Dem at this election are long-term Labour voters upset over Iraq, who could just shoot themselves in the foot in Shrewsbury, and allow Danny K a massive victory Unlikely I think, but fair view. It's a real pointer that all three parties are concentrating on tactical voting at this election.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 3, 2005 12:11:37 GMT 1
Shrewsbury is a tight seat made more difficult by Mr Marsden's antics
Shrewsbury only went Labour because of the masive right wing vote tanek up by the UKIP< Referendum Party and Countryside Alliance stuff
sthat is another couple of thousands which should come back to Danny K
But anyone who has met the candidates would be fairly unimpressed really, none are outstanding in that sense, and I personally don;t care if we have a sign off the M54 and I don;t care if someone has been to coffee morning or not
the local elections are far more important for the future of the town,a s they will effectively decide whether the £10 million is reserve is spent on 500 affordable homes or kept to accrue interest and keep council tax premiums lower, which I believe is the biggest issue facing our town at the moment.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 3, 2005 12:13:08 GMT 1
Unlikely I think, but fair view. It's a real pointer that all three parties are concentrating on tactical voting at this election. The conservative literature says they are worried about the Lib dems winning, so it is a certainty they are really afraid of Labour winning In the last two elections both the tories and lib dems said they were the only parties in it and both times labour won
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Post by Mr Swing OMeter on May 3, 2005 12:40:46 GMT 1
I take it then that nobody really knows but it won't be the Lib Dems ...
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 12:43:18 GMT 1
I'll let you know Friday morning how I think it will end up. ;D
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Post by BelleVueShrew on May 3, 2005 12:46:07 GMT 1
Sod tactical voting - people should vote for the candidate they believe best represents them. I have never tactical voted. I know it goes on and I know all the parties use it. but if everyone followed the courage of their convictions we just may get the best candidate.
Incidentally, none have really shone for me this time and I am very close to voting green this time for their environmental issues.
I certainly won't be voting for Danny Kowpat and Labour have let me down time and again as a working class man, including their cotinual messing with the welfare state which has had a huge adverse affect on my job and many of my colleagues, leading to a far less effective service being offered to the public through no fault of our own.
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Post by dachs on May 3, 2005 12:46:59 GMT 1
Anyone who thinks it will be the Lib Dems could make an awful lot of money.
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Post by Mr Swing 0 meter on May 3, 2005 12:49:35 GMT 1
This seat looks a classic vote Lib Dem (or Green) and get Tory.
Looks like a Con gain possibility on that basis ...
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 12:54:04 GMT 1
Sod tactical voting - people should vote for the candidate they believe best represents them. I have never tactical voted. I know it goes on and I know all the parties use it. but if everyone followed the courage of their convictions we just may get the best candidate. I will be tactically voting as purely on the polices I don't know which party I would vote for. Labour will clearly win but I want them to have a smaller majority. Only way to remove tactical voting is to have proportional representation. That way we get a Parliament that represents the majority not the minority as we currently have.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on May 3, 2005 13:05:03 GMT 1
I will be tactically voting as purely on the polices I don't know which party I would vote for. Labour will clearly win but I want them to have a smaller majority. Only way to remove tactical voting is to have proportional representation. That way we get a Parliament that represents the majority not the minority as we currently have. Essex boys and girls are allowed to vote Strewth that's risky ;D
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Post by MartinB on May 3, 2005 13:15:34 GMT 1
Essex boys and girls are allowed to vote Strewth that's risky ;D I know bloody scary isn't it
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on May 3, 2005 13:53:49 GMT 1
Only way to remove tactical voting is to have proportional representation. That way we get a Parliament that represents the majority not the minority as we currently have. 40% is not a minority but also, you would get the BNP candidates and others in a PR set up First past the post is not perfect, but it certainly works for us PR in other countries often leads to weak government, corruption and aimless stretched coalitions of parties who disagree on everything except their desire for power
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