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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 13:58:26 GMT 1
Surprised there’s no thread on this - what’s everyone’s thoughts? Any need to worry?
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Post by Pilch on Feb 2, 2020 14:01:24 GMT 1
Surprised there’s no thread on this - what’s everyone’s thoughts? Any need to worry? same crossed my mind the other day I always think things like this are nature and evolution trying to put the world to rights
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Feb 2, 2020 14:32:41 GMT 1
Seems a bit odd this virus appears in the same city they built a virus research facility 3 years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:32:53 GMT 1
No not worried. More people die each year from the yearly flu virus than from this. It seems this is not transmitted as easily as the flu virus either.
Makes me laugh a little when I see people on tv wearing surgical masks which do nothing to stop you catching this or normal cough cold virus.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Feb 2, 2020 14:45:50 GMT 1
Not worried, not really taken much notice of it tbh, i tend not to really take much of the news headlines in Should I?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 2, 2020 16:32:08 GMT 1
i am worried as i have health problems that make me more vunerable to things like this, were as with flue i can get a jab( i know it wont protect me gainst all strains but it is better than nothing)
i know we live in a global comunity but considering how infectious it is during incubation were symptoms can take up to 14 days. not cancelling flights from china and allowing people to come from the ground zero of the infection makes no sense to me. whilst a very different virus during the last Ebola virus flights from affected countries were stopped in days , this first case of corona virus was in december the 31st.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Feb 2, 2020 16:58:23 GMT 1
Coincidentally I recently finished a book called Pale Rider on the subject of the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918. It’s estimated that up to 100 million people died in the epidemic more than double the death toll of the war itself.
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Post by neilsalop on Feb 2, 2020 17:11:03 GMT 1
i know we live in a global comunity but considering how infectious it is during incubation were symptoms can take up to 14 days. not cancelling flights from china and allowing people to come from the ground zero of the infection makes no sense to me. whilst a very different virus during the last Ebola virus flights from affected countries were stopped in days , this first case of corona virus was in december the 31st. To be brutally honest if it does have a 14 incubation period before any symptoms appear, then there is a good chance that it is already a worldwide thing and we've already go it in the UK on a lot bigger scale than we know.
As Nursie pointed out though the virus doesn't spread as easily as the common cold virus and the majority of people just shake it off. There are potentially 1000s of people in Wutan that have had it and not even realised.
If it does go on to become a Global Pandemic or mutates then maybe we will all need to take more care, but until then I'll just carry on regardless. Unfortunately there are many people in this country and globally that can't afford to have time off on the sick and if it does get worse, the government are going to have do something to make sure that people aren't taking it into their workplace, but aren't going to be financially disadvataged.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2020 20:37:37 GMT 1
No not worried. More people die each year from the yearly flu virus than from this. It seems this is not transmitted as easily as the flu virus either. Makes me laugh a little when I see people on tv wearing surgical masks which do nothing to stop you catching this or normal cough cold virus. That will be why the coach drivers taking the people to quarantine were not wearing anything protective then?
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 2, 2020 21:00:36 GMT 1
Just started to binge on "Fear the Walking Dead" and then this pops up so...well, you know...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 22:11:50 GMT 1
No not worried. More people die each year from the yearly flu virus than from this. It seems this is not transmitted as easily as the flu virus either. Makes me laugh a little when I see people on tv wearing surgical masks which do nothing to stop you catching this or normal cough cold virus. That will be why the coach drivers taking the people to quarantine were not wearing anything protective then? To be honest I’m not really sure about that. I saw the pictures and found it all very odd. If I was driving a bus with 30 + flu patients on I think I’d wear a mask. That said, maybe the patients were made to wear them instead. I don’t know👍
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 2, 2020 22:22:31 GMT 1
That will be why the coach drivers taking the people to quarantine were not wearing anything protective then? To be honest I’m not really sure about that. I saw the pictures and found it all very odd. If I was driving a bus with 30 + flu patients on I think I’d wear a mask. That said, maybe the patients were made to wear them instead. I don’t know👍 My mate is so thick he's stopped drinking orange pop 'cos he doesn't want to catch the Corona virus. They weren't all victims tho', just resided in the area.
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Post by aghabullogueshrew on Feb 10, 2020 11:10:49 GMT 1
How heartless is this government! If isn't bad enough if you catch Coronavirus, then they send you to bloody Milton Keynes! The heartless swines!
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 10, 2020 14:23:52 GMT 1
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busterswhilst there is a lot of hysteria online,what happened in the french chateau whould suggest it is more contagious than previously stated. as with all viruses the very young, older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus. since i have a number of health issues i fall into that group i fail to understand why seven days after new Zealand stoped all flights from china why we have not done the same.
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Post by staffordshrew on Feb 10, 2020 19:51:36 GMT 1
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busterswhilst there is a lot of hysteria online,what happened in the french chateau whould suggest it is more contagious than previously stated. as with all viruses the very young, older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus. since i have a number of health issues i fall into that group i fail to understand why seven days after new Zealand stoped all flights from china why we have not done the same. We should all be ok, but people with health issues should stay away from cruises, Coronavirus and Norovirus spread like wildfire through a cruise ship, so that's saved you the cost of a cruise. Just washing hands with good old soap and water is the best way to try to stop these things spreading. It's being blown up out of all proportion by the media, when there are a lot of other things to worry about.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Feb 10, 2020 21:01:00 GMT 1
It pales into comparison to those who die from malaria, flu, heart disease etc, so I think it’s a big over reaction from the media. As someone else said, 100 million died from Spanish flu after the WW1.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 10, 2020 21:14:31 GMT 1
It pales into comparison to those who die from malaria, flu, heart disease etc, so I think it’s a big over reaction from the media. As someone else said, 100 million died from Spanish flu after the WW1. its easy saying that but sooner or later something like this will become the new Black Death , nature thinks we need a cull , its probably right too, I've got no chance,i dont need a virus I could go if someone pops a balloon in the next room
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 10, 2020 22:24:33 GMT 1
It pales into comparison to those who die from malaria, flu, heart disease etc, so I think it’s a big over reaction from the media. As someone else said, 100 million died from Spanish flu after the WW1. it does but at the present china is struggling with the coronavirus and they have two major outbreaks of chicken flue which is very difficult for a human to catch but if infected has a death rate of 60% whilst the death toll from SARS was low it should be noted that China has responded in a more open way than with SARS. with the world we live in a virus is quckly spread globally
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Post by shrewinjapan on Feb 11, 2020 9:33:44 GMT 1
It pales into comparison to those who die from malaria, flu, heart disease etc, so I think it’s a big over reaction from the media. As someone else said, 100 million died from Spanish flu after the WW1. Currently seems to be about a 1% fatality rate, which is higher than flu. Some models predict 60-80% of the world's population could eventually be infected, which would mean a death toll of 40 million plus. Not insignificant, is it?
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 11, 2020 14:23:57 GMT 1
It pales into comparison to those who die from malaria, flu, heart disease etc, so I think it’s a big over reaction from the media. As someone else said, 100 million died from Spanish flu after the WW1. Currently seems to be about a 1% fatality rate, which is higher than flu. Some models predict 60-80% of the world's population could eventually be infected, which would mean a death toll of 40 million plus. Not insignificant, is it? Professor Trevor Drew is the director of the CSRIO's Australian Animal Health Laboratory in regional Victoria, Professor Drew told The Australian previous research in pigs showed how coronavirus could become more lethal over time. He said the contagion needs to be regarded as a 'cloud' of closely matched pathogens rather than one virus with the potential to become even deadlier in 'a 'high-host-density environment' such as China. 'You may well find that more virulent viruses emerge from that cloud,' Professor Drew said. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7952287/Virologist-warns-coronavirus-deadlier-Qantas-waits-fly-Australians-Wuhan.htmli feel we still dont know enough about this virus to compare moratality rates to flue,the spanish flue has been mentioned what i was not aware of was in the second wave the virus had mutated to a much deadlier form Mortality of the Spanish Flu Pandemic. The global mortality rate from the 1918/1919 pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 10% to 20% of those who were infected died. With about a third of the world population infected, this case-fatality ratio means that 3% to 6% of the entire global population died. www.influenzavirusnet.com/1918-flu-pandemic/mortality.html
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Post by LetchworthShrew on Feb 21, 2020 10:16:57 GMT 1
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Post by zenfootball2 on Feb 21, 2020 10:35:07 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 9:24:04 GMT 1
Not worried, not really taken much notice of it tbh, i tend not to really take much of the news headlines in Should I? No.i rarely watch any news these day's and feel more relaxed and happier for it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 9:37:52 GMT 1
Stop the Chinese eating the filth they eat might stop this type of thing happening.
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Post by Pilch on Feb 22, 2020 12:13:08 GMT 1
Stop the Chinese eating the filth they eat might stop this type of thing happening. unlike us who eat CJD Burgers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2020 16:30:27 GMT 1
Stop the Chinese eating the filth they eat might stop this type of thing happening. unlike us who eat CJD Burgers Pathetic comment pilsh.we had no idea our beef was infected,we've eaten beef safely for hundreds of year's.bats though and other creatures are well known to be dangerous but these clowns still eat it,and put us all at risk.they are dirty feckers,stick up for them if you like,but would you think eating bats is safe?and maybe try it?no I didn't think so.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Feb 26, 2020 10:14:15 GMT 1
First known case here in Baden-Wurttemberg. Just up the road from here in Calw.
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Post by frankwellshrews on Feb 26, 2020 10:23:03 GMT 1
There is somebody in quarantine here in our very own county town, too. All very hush hush at the moment in the UK though.
On a slight tangent, are we just going to leave the comments above (about Chinese people) to stand? Not a good advert for the board or the town, particularly frustrating as the person writing them has zero connection to Shrewsbury as far as I can tell but a casual reader might not know that.
Notable that the moderation here is quick to jump on personal agendas but quite happy to let racist rhetoric stand.
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Post by Minormorris64 on Feb 26, 2020 10:27:52 GMT 1
An average of 600 people die EVERY year of complications from seasonal influenza virus In a bad year it could be as many as 10,000 deaths In 2013 there were more than 13,000 deaths By contrast what are the current UK figures for coronavirus ? p e r s p e c t i v e r e q u i r e d
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Post by shrewinjapan on Feb 26, 2020 10:30:20 GMT 1
Are certain posts earlier really acceptable for this board?
Update: Stutty edited them so I have removed the quoted content.
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