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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 13:04:12 GMT 1
Prince Andrew has taken part in discussions with Emily Maitlis about his relationship with a known sexual offender leading on to questions as to whether he had sex with a teenage girl in the London Home of Ghislaine Maxwell. The consensus of opinion , certainly in the press , is that it was a car crash of an interview. He was advised not to go on tv but , as per usual , decided to ignore the advice . In the great scheme of things is this yet another nail in the Monarchy . Can they survive this . Is the Monarchy relevant in the modern age .?
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 18, 2019 13:22:28 GMT 1
No real comments on most of your post but in answer to the final question about the monarchy being relevant in the modern age - a resounding NO from me. Bin them off (and save the country a fortune as a bonus)
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Post by shrewder on Nov 18, 2019 13:34:56 GMT 1
Buckingham Palace has issued a strong denial that the Duke of York, Prince Andrew, has been involved in bizarre hill marching based sexual practices. According to reports up to ten thousand men are alleged to have been involved in incidents involving the Duke. One participant, who cannot be named for legal reasons said “Me and loads of other guys were offered money to dress up in early 19th century uniforms and then march to the top of a hill. “When we got there we were greeted by an extremely ‘excited’ Prince Andrew. He was very giggly now I think about it. “Then, just when we thought it was all over, he seemed keen to make us march all the way back down again.” Another man, who also claims to have been involved claimed, “He was quite firm about it, when we were up we were up and when we were down we were down.” Denying the claims a Buckingham Palace spokesman told us, “All allegations in this matter are false, and records will clearly show these men were neither up nor down.”
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 18, 2019 13:36:11 GMT 1
I have huge respect for the Queen, who has devoted her entire life to representing our country. Unfortunately, I have zero respect for her son and heir who appears at official functions draped in gold braid with a chest full of medals he has not earned. A Royal Navy officer who I discussed this with said that he reckoned Charlie's medals were plastic - in other words, worthless. At least his sons have worked in conflict zones, so deserve to wear their medals. The thought of him as Monarch and the idiot Blo-Jo as PM makes me cringe.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Nov 18, 2019 13:40:07 GMT 1
The Crown is good though isnt it
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Post by Dancin on Nov 18, 2019 13:55:06 GMT 1
The Crown is good though isnt it The new series dropped on Netflix last night; first two episodes were pretty good. Anything with Helena Bonham Carter gets my vote; amazing as Princess Margaret. As for the Monarchy I do feel that we are approaching a "Princess Diana" moment when big changes happened following her death. To use one of his daughters as an Alibi was wrong and being so specific about the date and somebody's birthday party at a Pizza Express has got doomed to fail all over it.
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Post by Worthingshrew on Nov 18, 2019 14:20:33 GMT 1
I have huge respect for the Queen, who has devoted her entire life to representing our country. Unfortunately, I have zero respect for her son and heir who appears at official functions draped in gold braid with a chest full of medals he has not earned. A Royal Navy officer who I discussed this with said that he reckoned Charlie's medals were plastic - in other words, worthless. At least his sons have worked in conflict zones, so deserve to wear their medals. The thought of him as Monarch and the idiot Blo-Jo as PM makes me cringe. I agree entirely about the Queen, but equally have little respect for the rest of them. I think when she passes away, there will be a massive sea-change in the country about the monarchy. I think the only ones who could hold it together are Will and Kate, and think the crown should by-pass Charlie boy to go to Will.
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 18, 2019 14:35:12 GMT 1
Just had another thought, which. I hope doesn’t linger very long - Queen Camilla. Sounds like something off Jackanory.
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Post by Mortgagehound on Nov 18, 2019 14:35:46 GMT 1
Buckingham Palace has issued a strong denial that the Duke of York, Prince Andrew, has been involved in bizarre hill marching based sexual practices. According to reports up to ten thousand men are alleged to have been involved in incidents involving the Duke. One participant, who cannot be named for legal reasons said “Me and loads of other guys were offered money to dress up in early 19th century uniforms and then march to the top of a hill. “When we got there we were greeted by an extremely ‘excited’ Prince Andrew. He was very giggly now I think about it. “Then, just when we thought it was all over, he seemed keen to make us march all the way back down again.” Another man, who also claims to have been involved claimed, “He was quite firm about it, when we were up we were up and when we were down we were down.” Denying the claims a Buckingham Palace spokesman told us, “All allegations in this matter are false, and records will clearly show these men were neither up nor down.” Bravo Shrewder
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Post by Exkeeper on Nov 18, 2019 14:39:50 GMT 1
I am now fully expecting to be arrested for treason and despatched on Trains for Wales to serve a long stint in Swan(sea) Gaol.😖
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 18, 2019 14:42:44 GMT 1
No, it's an utterly ridiculous institution in this day and age (and probably ever was).
Everyone professes to believe in a meritocracy but then we have the monarchy, which is its utter antithesis.
Yet, it's very popular - people like princes and princesses and all that jazz - and I doubt this latest scandal will dent that too much in the long term.
So I guess we're stuck with it until people outgrow the need for fairy stories.
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Post by salop27 on Nov 18, 2019 16:38:38 GMT 1
No real comments on most of your post but in answer to the final question about the monarchy being relevant in the modern age - a resounding NO from me. Bin them off (and save the country a fortune as a bonus) I'm not bothered overly about the royal family. To bin them off to save a fortune is incorrect though as they help generate about £2 billion a year in tourism!
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Post by barrynic on Nov 18, 2019 16:55:18 GMT 1
No, it's an utterly ridiculous institution in this day and age (and probably ever was). Everyone professes to believe in a meritocracy but then we have the monarchy, which is its utter antithesis. Yet, it's very popular - people like princes and princesses and all that jazz - and I doubt this latest scandal will dent that too much in the long term. So I guess we're stuck with it until people outgrow the need for fairy stories. That will mean the end of religion and all the fake gods then.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 17:09:37 GMT 1
I am now fully expecting to be arrested for treason and despatched on Trains for Wales to serve a long stint in Swan(sea) Gaol.😖 Your quite safe. That train won't turn up.
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Post by Pilch on Nov 18, 2019 17:12:10 GMT 1
that Epstein chap was asking for trouble when inviting Andy round
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 17:18:48 GMT 1
Tabloids are examining absolutely everything he said in infinitesimal detail.
So far we've got pictures of him:-
1. groping other girls at parties.
2. sweating.
Plus verifying the photo of him with the 17 year old, and working on his pizza at Woking alibi.
And forensically picking apart every line of his answers. Not too difficult either.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 17:31:58 GMT 1
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 17:47:48 GMT 1
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Nov 18, 2019 18:26:27 GMT 1
If I was in. Pizza Express and Prince Andrew walked in I would remember it, put on Facebook, tell my friends and make an entry in my diary. I even did this when Kevin Webster off Corrie was at the next table to us at Costa.
So I confidently expect all those people who were in Pizza Express at the same time as the Prince to come forward to confirm his alibi.
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Post by GrizzlyShrew on Nov 18, 2019 19:11:12 GMT 1
If I was in. Pizza Express and Prince Andrew walked in I would remember it, put on Facebook, tell my friends and make an entry in my diary. I even did this when Kevin Webster off Corrie was at the next table to us at Costa. So I confidently expect all those people who were in Pizza Express at the same time as the Prince to come forward to confirm his alibi. They are so insignificant in my life that i probably wouldnt even notice them, unless there was a load of paparazzi around them which would be a give away.
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 19:13:59 GMT 1
If I was in. Pizza Express and Prince Andrew walked in I would remember it, put on Facebook, tell my friends and make an entry in my diary. I even did this when Kevin Webster off Corrie was at the next table to us at Costa. So I confidently expect all those people who were in Pizza Express at the same time as the Prince to come forward to confirm his alibi. His protection officers would have logged this. However, I'm not sure how going to a Pizza Express in the late afternoon is an alibi for not being at a night club many hours later. No staff who worked at Pizza Express in Woking in 2001 still work there, but I'll lay odds the Press will find one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 19:41:16 GMT 1
br]No staff who worked at Pizza Express in Woking in 2001 Incorrect! Sharon still works there!
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Post by northwestman on Nov 18, 2019 19:53:59 GMT 1
br]No staff who worked at Pizza Express in Woking in 2001 Incorrect! Sharon still works there! Besides which, Pizza Express have ordered all their employees not to talk to the press.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 19:57:49 GMT 1
Just had another thought, which. I hope doesn’t linger very long - Queen Camilla. Sounds like something off Jackanory. Even my wife, (who is more of a royalist than I am) shudders at the very thought that Camilla could one day be Queen!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 21:33:37 GMT 1
Incorrect! Sharon still works there! Besides which, Pizza Express have ordered all their employees not to talk to the press. Sharon is incapable of keeping her mouth shut!
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 18, 2019 22:49:56 GMT 1
Can't sweat? I bet he's sweating now. Andrew, the dumbest royal, that may well be all there is to it. But if there is anything in it then his conscience is his burden.
Thank goodness Willy and Harry seem to be a combination of an updated Liz and Dianna and that's not a bad combination.
The BBC making a big thing of their interview, just like they always do, but meanwhile there is a much more important general election campaign going on that's going to influence ordinary people's lives for the next 5 years.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 19, 2019 15:23:33 GMT 1
No real comments on most of your post but in answer to the final question about the monarchy being relevant in the modern age - a resounding NO from me. Bin them off (and save the country a fortune as a bonus) I'm not bothered overly about the royal family. To bin them off to save a fortune is incorrect though as they help generate about £2 billion a year in tourism! Ah, the patronising old tourism myth. Why would foreign tourists cease to be interested in coming to Britain if we had no monarchy? They don't get invited in for tea. What about domestic tourism? Do you go to London because you might see a member of the royal family? The Queen stays at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh for one week of the year - tourists visit Edinburgh for 52 weeks of the year. The absence of a monarchy doesn't stop tourists flocking to France or the US.
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Post by jacksdad on Nov 19, 2019 16:46:14 GMT 1
I'm not bothered overly about the royal family. To bin them off to save a fortune is incorrect though as they help generate about £2 billion a year in tourism! Ah, the patronising old tourism myth. Why would foreign tourists cease to be interested in coming to Britain if we had no monarchy? They don't get invited in for tea. What about domestic tourism? Do you go to London because you might see a member of the royal family? The Queen stays at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh for one week of the year - tourists visit Edinburgh for 52 weeks of the year. The absence of a monarchy doesn't stop tourists flocking to France or the US. Why is it patronising? And it's not a myth. In 2017 it was estimated that the Royal family contributed £1.8bn to the UK economy of which £550m was through additional revenues generated by tourism directly attributed to them. I haven't read anyone stating that tourists will cease coming to Britain if we had no monarchy and no one is stating that the only reason they come is because of the monarchy so I'm not sure what your point is?
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Post by venceremos on Nov 19, 2019 20:44:28 GMT 1
Ah, the patronising old tourism myth. Why would foreign tourists cease to be interested in coming to Britain if we had no monarchy? They don't get invited in for tea. What about domestic tourism? Do you go to London because you might see a member of the royal family? The Queen stays at Holyrood Palace in Edinburgh for one week of the year - tourists visit Edinburgh for 52 weeks of the year. The absence of a monarchy doesn't stop tourists flocking to France or the US. Why is it patronising? And it's not a myth. In 2017 it was estimated that the Royal family contributed £1.8bn to the UK economy of which £550m was through additional revenues generated by tourism directly attributed to them. I haven't read anyone stating that tourists will cease coming to Britain if we had no monarchy and no one is stating that the only reason they come is because of the monarchy so I'm not sure what your point is? It's patronising in the sense that it implies people are so bedazzled by the notion of monarchy that substantial numbers of us invest our leisure time in pursuing ….. what? …… a glimpse of a royal? And it's patronising in the sense that it tells people that, whatever their principled ideas of what a 21st century democracy might look like and however obvious it might seem that a nation built on privilege and inheritance can't also be a genuine meritocracy, the business argument trumps those beliefs. And it's a myth because the business case appears spurious to me. If, as you say, nobody is saying tourists will cease coming to Britain if there's no monarchy, how can you claim that additional revenues are generated by there being a monarchy? Are you suggesting the same tourists somehow spend more because we have a royal family? My point is very clear - I don't believe the absence of a monarchy would lead to a fall in tourist revenues and I cited France and the US as examples. I don't see what your point is given that you've accepted that tourists wouldn't stop visiting without the monarchy.
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Post by staffordshrew on Nov 20, 2019 1:40:10 GMT 1
God save the Queen and the facist regime and it's leader Boris.
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