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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 6, 2019 13:28:28 GMT 1
The cream of the Cream is dead at 80. Great drummer, I hope the "human combine harvester" went out with a bang. So long and thanks for all the riffs.
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Post by albionshrew on Oct 6, 2019 14:18:15 GMT 1
My mate reckons we saw the Baker-Gurvitz Army at the Shrewsbury Music Hall in 1975. I can't remember. Any one else here frequent the Music Hall in the '70s? Camel gigs were my favourite.
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Oct 6, 2019 15:08:47 GMT 1
There was a good documentary film about him a few years ago, he wasn’t an easy man by all accounts.
Mrs ST and I used to have disagreements about him, she was a fan but I never liked the interminable drum solos.
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 6, 2019 15:48:19 GMT 1
Jack Bruce On What He Thought Of The Film Beware Of Mr Baker
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Post by Mortgagehound on Oct 6, 2019 16:25:20 GMT 1
Very sad news
A legend no question
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 6, 2019 17:25:53 GMT 1
Extraordinary musician. One of the most pivotal British musicians in the post WW2 era. Up there with Wolverhampton's own, Dave Holland. Very sad day. (Not Winterland - the Royal Albert Hall)
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Post by SeanBroseley on Oct 6, 2019 17:27:11 GMT 1
There was a good documentary film about him a few years ago, he wasn’t an easy man by all accounts. Mrs ST and I used to have disagreements about him, she was a fan but I never liked the interminable drum solos. I remember my wife opining some 15 years into our marriage, "I don't really like Jimi Hendrix."
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Post by staffordshrew on Oct 6, 2019 18:22:56 GMT 1
There was a good documentary film about him a few years ago, he wasn’t an easy man by all accounts. Mrs ST and I used to have disagreements about him, she was a fan but I never liked the interminable drum solos. I remember my wife opining some 15 years into our marriage, "I don't really like Jimi Hendrix." To which the riposte might be "I hear he's not too keen on you either dear"
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Post by venceremos on Oct 7, 2019 12:05:13 GMT 1
" Difficult character", seems to be the euphemistic description, as that extraordinary documentary demonstrated when, amongst other things, he broke the nose of the film maker.
I gather that jazz drummers look down on rock drummers but Baker evidently mastered both forms and more besides.
I only really know his work with Cream and they produced some of the best music of the 60s, so that'll do for me. However good a drummer he was, I could have done without his encouragement of the drum solo though!
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Post by venceremos on Oct 17, 2019 10:46:06 GMT 1
Did anyone else go to the Music of Cream gig at Theatre Severn last night?
I loved it. Malcolm Bruce (Jack's son), Kofi Baker (Ginger's son) & Will Johns (Eric Clapton's nephew) played as I imagine Cream would have done back in '68 or '69. Very poignant to see Kofi playing in front of a video backdrop of his dad doing the same and likewise for Malcolm with Jack behind him.
Some used to say that Cream were one of the forerunners of heavy metal but they were so much more than that. They had soulful, catchy pop songs (Strange Brew, White Room), extended blues workouts (Spoonful, Sitting On Top Of The World) and riff-heavy classics (Sunshine Of Your Love, Badge and my favourite - Crossroads). The instrumental improvisations were much more than guitar solos etc (which became such a cliché as others followed in the 70s). Frequently it was either more like jazz improvisation, with all three "soloing" at the same time, or wonderfully expressive blues playing.
I thought the trio captured the spirit beautifully last night.
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Post by quinnster on Oct 17, 2019 21:40:01 GMT 1
Yes I was at the Theatre Severn, amazing given that (Dad)Ginger had passed, but in true show biz ways, the show went on.....and ....on, extended drum solo's from Kofi and guitar/bass jamming style bluesey influences, that defined Cream, yet Jimi Hendrix was almost there in spirit, the late 60's such a time, just before Black Sabbath emerged blues free just after. This the closest I ever got to Woodstock or the Isle of White lol. Irony that when punk came, they rebelled against these long drum or guitar solo's, yet Cream were as rebels themselves, pushing boundaries. So many awesome groups back then......
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 17, 2019 23:32:35 GMT 1
Did anyone else go to the Music of Cream gig at Theatre Severn last night? I loved it. Malcolm Bruce (Jack's son), Kofi Baker (Ginger's son) & Will Johns (Eric Clapton's nephew) played as I imagine Cream would have done back in '68 or '69. Very poignant to see Kofi playing in front of a video backdrop of his dad doing the same and likewise for Malcolm with Jack behind him. Some used to say that Cream were one of the forerunners of heavy metal but they were so much more than that. They had soulful, catchy pop songs (Strange Brew, White Room), extended blues workouts (Spoonful, Sitting On Top Of The World) and riff-heavy classics (Sunshine Of Your Love, Badge and my favourite - Crossroads). The instrumental improvisations were much more than guitar solos etc (which became such a cliché as others followed in the 70s). Frequently it was either more like jazz improvisation, with all three "soloing" at the same time, or wonderfully expressive blues playing. I thought the trio captured the spirit beautifully last night. Crossroads is my favourite too 😄 Glad to hear the lads doing justice to the classics I was fortunate enough to be able to experience from its original iteration all those years ago.
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Post by Chief Inspector Swan on Oct 18, 2019 0:23:01 GMT 1
Did anyone else go to the Music of Cream gig at Theatre Severn last night? I loved it. Malcolm Bruce (Jack's son), Kofi Baker (Ginger's son) & Will Johns (Eric Clapton's nephew) played as I imagine Cream would have done back in '68 or '69. Very poignant to see Kofi playing in front of a video backdrop of his dad doing the same and likewise for Malcolm with Jack behind him. Some used to say that Cream were one of the forerunners of heavy metal but they were so much more than that. They had soulful, catchy pop songs (Strange Brew, White Room), extended blues workouts (Spoonful, Sitting On Top Of The World) and riff-heavy classics (Sunshine Of Your Love, Badge and my favourite - Crossroads). The instrumental improvisations were much more than guitar solos etc (which became such a cliché as others followed in the 70s). Frequently it was either more like jazz improvisation, with all three "soloing" at the same time, or wonderfully expressive blues playing. I thought the trio captured the spirit beautifully last night. Crossroads is my favourite too 😄 Glad to hear the lads doing justice to the classics I was fortunate enough to be able to experience from its original iteration all those years ago. If you’re lucky enough like some you’ll remember the original Cream playing the Music Hall back in the day.
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Post by Bob Rickerton on Oct 18, 2019 16:29:39 GMT 1
Crossroads is my favourite too 😄 Glad to hear the lads doing justice to the classics I was fortunate enough to be able to experience from its original iteration all those years ago. If you’re lucky enough like some you’ll remember the original Cream playing the Music Hall back in the day. Were you there too? Small old world, eh! The encore of Sunshine of Your Love will live long in the memory - indeed it has because I'm still talking about it now!
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Post by Shrewsfan1985 on Oct 19, 2019 13:19:52 GMT 1
RIP.
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