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Post by theriverside on Apr 24, 2019 9:17:55 GMT 1
Althought last nights results were not helpful, I still cannot see four of the five teams directly below us ending up on 51 points. Think we will lose at Cov, draw with the g***s and finish 18th on 51 points ourselves. The bottom 3 to stay as they are with Southend dropping off the edge after losing to Sunderland on the last day.
Overall for STFC - close enough for comfort and certainly enough for the board to act swiftly afterwards.
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Post by keithb123 on Apr 24, 2019 9:34:04 GMT 1
Everyone can see there are real problems with the current management, tactics, passion etc. etc. but will the board act on it at the end of the season? I doubt it very much. My guess is they will let SR stay in the post for a few months and when it all goes t!ts up will have to act, however, that could leave us in another similar situation. IMO they should shake his hand after the last game and get someone in with experience before the friendlies start and rebuild. It's not as if there isn't any money available.
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Post by Pilch on Apr 24, 2019 10:25:08 GMT 1
Sunderland may or may not still have something to play for by the time they visit Southend. A fired up Southend side/crowd against a Sunderland side already automatically promoted or already in the playoffs but who can't be automatically promoted isn't a good scenario for us. negative again how about a Sunderland side followed by their usual massive noisy following will be looking to finish the season off in style against an possibly already relegated side
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Post by blamber on Apr 24, 2019 10:47:45 GMT 1
Sunderland always bring a big following but they are out of sorts at the moment and Southend will relish a big home crowd with their new found vein of form under Kevin Bond.
I think we are fortunate that we play on Sunday as we will know whether we will still need more points at Coventry. If we do need a point or two then any of the final day fixtures will create twists and turns meaning we can't rely on anyone else. It brings back memories of St James Park, Exeter - although they had nothing to play for whilst an already relegated Walsall will be determined to do what they can to take us down with them.
All things considered, I think we will stay up. But let's see what Saturday brings.
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Post by bictonshrew on Apr 24, 2019 10:49:55 GMT 1
a Sunderland side followed by their usual massive noisy following Noisy??!!
Big following but certainly not noisy.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2019 13:51:23 GMT 1
Everyone can see there are real problems with the current management, tactics, passion etc. etc. but will the board act on it at the end of the season? I doubt it very much. My guess is they will let SR stay in the post for a few months and when it all goes t!ts up will have to act, however, that could leave us in another similar situation. IMO they should shake his hand after the last game and get someone in with experience before the friendlies start and rebuild. It's not as if there isn't any money available. You missed out a key ingredient in your list of problems - the players. Individually they're not bad, collectively, they just don't work as a unit. That's been the case under Askey and Ricketts and, I've now no doubt, would have been the case had Coyne and Ramsay carried on for the rest of the season. I don't know why, and it's no longer necessary to worry about it, but they just don't function effectively as a team. Two more games and it changes. Players will leave, players will arrive and we'll reset. Ricketts hasn't yet had a summer to build his squad. He's had to work with what he inherited, although he made some good signings from what was available in January. If he keeps us up, he's earned the right to take us into next season. He'll be more experienced, he'll have worked with the players through pre-season and he'll have been able to mold the squad more to his liking. I'll go with that. Of course there are no guarantees but that's true for any manager.
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Post by shrewswolf on Apr 24, 2019 13:57:18 GMT 1
Everyone can see there are real problems with the current management, tactics, passion etc. etc. but will the board act on it at the end of the season? I doubt it very much. My guess is they will let SR stay in the post for a few months and when it all goes t!ts up will have to act, however, that could leave us in another similar situation. IMO they should shake his hand after the last game and get someone in with experience before the friendlies start and rebuild. It's not as if there isn't any money available. You missed out a key ingredient in your list of problems - the players. Individually they're not bad, collectively, they just don't work as a unit. That's been the case under Askey and Ricketts and, I've now no doubt, would have been the case had Coyne and Ramsay carried on for the rest of the season. I don't know why, and it's no longer necessary to worry about it, but they just don't function effectively as a team. Two more games and it changes. Players will leave, players will arrive and we'll reset. Ricketts hasn't yet had a summer to build his squad. He's had to work with what he inherited, although he made some good signings from what was available in January. If he keeps us up, he's earned the right to take us into next season. He'll be more experienced, he'll have worked with the players through pre-season and he'll have been able to mold the squad more to his liking. I'll go with that. Of course there are no guarantees but that's true for any manager. I can’t decide if a summer of Ricketts signings is exciting or really, really scary. Ro Shaun Williams & Tyrese Campbell have been excellent January signings, even more so considering where we found ourselves in the league at the time. In fact, Campbell could have done with coming in January the year before to add firepower. However, the rest are car crash ‘paid off after 6/12 months’ signings. Old, injury prone, unfit or mainly unused. Thank god in a couple of cases they’re only on loan.
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Post by venceremos on Apr 24, 2019 14:02:35 GMT 1
You missed out a key ingredient in your list of problems - the players. Individually they're not bad, collectively, they just don't work as a unit. That's been the case under Askey and Ricketts and, I've now no doubt, would have been the case had Coyne and Ramsay carried on for the rest of the season. I don't know why, and it's no longer necessary to worry about it, but they just don't function effectively as a team. Two more games and it changes. Players will leave, players will arrive and we'll reset. Ricketts hasn't yet had a summer to build his squad. He's had to work with what he inherited, although he made some good signings from what was available in January. If he keeps us up, he's earned the right to take us into next season. He'll be more experienced, he'll have worked with the players through pre-season and he'll have been able to mold the squad more to his liking. I'll go with that. Of course there are no guarantees but that's true for any manager. I can’t decide if a summer of Ricketts signings is exciting or really, really scary. Ro Shaun Williams & Tyrese Campbell have been excellent January signings, even more so considering where we found ourselves in the league at the time. In fact, Campbell could have done with coming in January the year before to add firepower. However, the rest are car crash ‘paid off after 6/12 months’ signings. Old, injury prone, unfit or mainly unused. Thank god in a couple of cases they’re only on loan. How often do you get a whole bunch of good January signings? It's very rare because relatively few players are available and clubs won't easily release those who are doing well. Given that his January signings have been far better than Hurst's last season, I don't understand why anyone would be "really, really scared" at the prospect of Ricketts having the opportunity to build his own squad with far more options available.
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Post by zenfootball2 on Apr 25, 2019 8:56:44 GMT 1
As I calculate it, if Wimbledon fail to beat Wycombe on Saturday then we're safe barring a mathematical miracle. Anyone else who hasn't got a headache from working it out care to confirm? me ; when i look at all the variations i get brain freeze
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Post by venceremos on Apr 25, 2019 11:29:57 GMT 1
As I calculate it, if Wimbledon fail to beat Wycombe on Saturday then we're safe barring a mathematical miracle. Anyone else who hasn't got a headache from working it out care to confirm? me ; when i look at all the variations i get brain freeze I'm waiting till 5:00 on Saturday - it will be a bit easier to compute the possibilities then!
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