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Post by martinshrew on Jan 29, 2019 23:19:41 GMT 1
Senior management need to stand up and be counted. Endless bad decisions since not buying a striker last January. Two managers in one season with no league experience, weird player recruitment, ticketing **** ups, contractual **** ups. Disgrace. Any ambition at this club and we'd be playing Championship football this year.
Absolutely ****ing rotten to the core.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jan 29, 2019 23:21:33 GMT 1
Fully agreed.
Caldwell and Roland the time is up.
Need fresh ideas.
I really can't stomach hosting Crawley Town and such again next season....
We allowed key players to walk away for free last season.
We have NEVER been at such a great chance to push on after last season.
Instead it's been a car crash all season and FULL blame is to the top two.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 23:22:33 GMT 1
Don't beat about the bush 😊
Tell us what you really think 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 23:28:43 GMT 1
Don’t blame Ricketts too much as it’s not his squad, blame has to be aimed higher. The decision to bring in Askey who didn’t have a clue, then to replace him with another inexperienced manager has proved badly wrong. Askey was never the right appointment and to give him the amount of £££ we did was crazy as he’s blown it on the likes of Norburn and Waterfall on a huge contract. Leaves Ricketts in a position where he will get the stick, but he didn’t make the decision to bring these lads in, Askey/Caldwell did.
If we do go down, blame has to be directed above management as they’re the ones choosing these inexperienced lower league managers, all to try and emulate the Hurst success, lightning doesn’t strike twice!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 23:29:21 GMT 1
Time to go Roland, thanks for what you have done time for knew ideas and someone who can take us further we seem to be stuck in this horrible cycle of relagation scrap battles in league one and bad decisions time after again.
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Post by accordingtome on Jan 29, 2019 23:31:08 GMT 1
Vote with your feet, it's the only way to make Roland sit up and take notice
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Post by Valerioch on Jan 29, 2019 23:46:59 GMT 1
Don’t blame Ricketts too much as it’s not his squad, blame has to be aimed higher. The decision to bring in Askey who didn’t have a clue, then to replace him with another inexperienced manager has proved badly wrong. Askey was never the right appointment and to give him the amount of £££ we did was crazy as he’s blown it on the likes of Norburn and Waterfall on a huge contract. Leaves Ricketts in a position where he will get the stick, but he didn’t make the decision to bring these lads in, Askey/Caldwell did. If we do go down, blame has to be directed above management as they’re the ones choosing these inexperienced lower league managers, all to try and emulate the Hurst success, lightning doesn’t strike twice! Ricketts has reduced a 7 point gap to 0 in the space of 9 games That’s a damning statistic if ever
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Post by jimmyrobbo on Jan 29, 2019 23:49:27 GMT 1
Don’t blame Ricketts too much as it’s not his squad, blame has to be aimed higher. The decision to bring in Askey who didn’t have a clue, then to replace him with another inexperienced manager has proved badly wrong. Askey was never the right appointment and to give him the amount of £££ we did was crazy as he’s blown it on the likes of Norburn and Waterfall on a huge contract. Leaves Ricketts in a position where he will get the stick, but he didn’t make the decision to bring these lads in, Askey/Caldwell did. If we do go down, blame has to be directed above management as they’re the ones choosing these inexperienced lower league managers, all to try and emulate the Hurst success, lightning doesn’t strike twice! How thick do you have to be? Still bleating about JA. He did NOT spend much when replacing 7 or 8 of our best players. We'll make a substantial profit when his signings are sold on. His tenure was financially successful. After the disastrous start, we had turned the corner. Results were on the up. We would certainly not be in this precarious position had he been left at the helm. I warned at the time. I hate to say it, but we jettisoned a true football man to appease the moaners. Can we put to one side this idiotic notion that JA is inexperienced? You're just showing your lack of any knowledge. Do some reading and find out a bit more about him.
Huge contracts? Get real. We can build a defence around Waterfall. Not around Sadler, unfortunately.
I agree that Caldwell deserves some criticism. Poor leadership helped undermine his man. He made his scapegoat.
While giving out free passes to SR, don't forget that he inherited a side that had found its feet. We all know what has happened since then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 23:51:11 GMT 1
Askey had this team lower mid table. Coyne and Ramsey them on their best run of the season following that.
Ricketts has a big couple of days and following few weeks to show he can be a manager at this level.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 29, 2019 23:52:46 GMT 1
You really telling me Rickets wants strikers of the quality of Sam smith and amadi holloway to work with ? Reice Charles cook , vincelot ?
We’re either paying the players we’ve got thousands over the top every week and can’t afford anything better ,
The chairman is being tight ,
Or rickets things this squad and players are good enough .
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 29, 2019 23:53:08 GMT 1
Don’t blame Ricketts too much as it’s not his squad, blame has to be aimed higher. The decision to bring in Askey who didn’t have a clue, then to replace him with another inexperienced manager has proved badly wrong. Askey was never the right appointment and to give him the amount of £££ we did was crazy as he’s blown it on the likes of Norburn and Waterfall on a huge contract. Leaves Ricketts in a position where he will get the stick, but he didn’t make the decision to bring these lads in, Askey/Caldwell did. If we do go down, blame has to be directed above management as they’re the ones choosing these inexperienced lower league managers, all to try and emulate the Hurst success, lightning doesn’t strike twice! We'll make a substantial profit when his signings are sold on. Nice of you to least try and lighten the mood. Good one that...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 29, 2019 23:55:43 GMT 1
You really telling me Rickets wants strikers of the quality of Sam smith and amadi holloway to work with ? Reice Charles cook , vincelot ? We’re either paying the players we’ve got thousands over the top every week and can’t afford anything better , The chairman is being tight , Or rickets things this squad and players are good enough . I think we may have blown whatever we were prepared to invest in the season under Askey. Now we're got Fey, he is more than proving his worth. Holloway and Angol though are another matter altogether. Norburn does not look to be worth the money paid if he is indeed the clubs record signing.
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Post by jimmyrobbo on Jan 30, 2019 0:00:39 GMT 1
We'll make a substantial profit when his signings are sold on. Nice of you to least try and lighten the mood. Good one that... I'm sick of hearing the same lines without people using common sense.
Financially, our dealings have been very sound. A few mistakes but we have been prudent.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:01:55 GMT 1
Okenabirhie is a fantastic signing. Imagine if the Hurst side contained him instead of Payne or Morris.
It seems that Askey signed some good players and yet he didn't know how to utilise them. I'm honestly not sure what Ricketts is trying to do though.
Should have brought Hurst back and got rid of Caldwell.
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Post by Scarecrow on Jan 30, 2019 0:02:25 GMT 1
If we go down it’ll be 12 years on from the move from the gay meadow when Roland promised that the new stadium would allow us to progress to the championship within 10 years.
12 years on and we could be back down to League Two after finishing 3rd in the league the previous season and the board refusing to buy a striker to take us over the line and get automatic promotion.
Roland is the problem and we’ll always be his little league one league two yo yo club and he’s happy to be that. Bar our miracle last season we haven’t finished in the top half in league one under his tenure. I think people need to start opening their eyes to where the problems lie. Roland needs to go. We’ve been lied to for too long.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 30, 2019 0:03:12 GMT 1
Nice of you to least try and lighten the mood. Good one that... I'm sick of hearing the same lines without people using common sense.
Financially, our dealings have been very sound. A few mistakes but we have been prudent.
Financially? Prudent? I suspect we may have different priorities. So we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Post by bobbytheblock19er on Jan 30, 2019 0:04:16 GMT 1
Okenabirhie is a fantastic signing. Imagine if the Hurst side contained him instead of Payne or Morris. It seems that Askey signed some good players and yet he didn't know how to utilise them. I'm honestly not sure what Ricketts is trying to do though. Should have brought Hurst back and got rid of Caldwell. i thought caldwell was the messiah !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:07:42 GMT 1
Okenabirhie is a fantastic signing. Imagine if the Hurst side contained him instead of Payne or Morris. It seems that Askey signed some good players and yet he didn't know how to utilise them. I'm honestly not sure what Ricketts is trying to do though. Should have brought Hurst back and got rid of Caldwell. i thought caldwell was the messiah !! Not in my religion he's not :-)
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Post by tvor on Jan 30, 2019 0:09:32 GMT 1
I'm sick of hearing the same lines without people using common sense.
Financially, our dealings have been very sound. A few mistakes but we have been prudent.
Financially? Prudent? I suspect we may have different priorities. So we'll have to agree to disagree. I guess much will become clearer when the accounts are published.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:13:58 GMT 1
Once in generation opportunity to build on a successful season last year.
And we don't just bungle it, we set fire to the best part of £1m doing it and turn ourselves back into relegation candidates within a few months.
That's pretty spectacular.
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Post by 18stfc86 on Jan 30, 2019 0:19:14 GMT 1
If we end up going down (again), you've got to question What was the point in moving from a scenic old fashioned ground, in the centre of town which had a decent atmosphere with 2500 fans through the gates on a Tuesday evening, to a soulless lego type stadium out of town with **** all atmosphere. Dread going to games these days unless we're away.
This January transfer window has done it for me, Roland and Brian out.
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Post by martinshrew on Jan 30, 2019 0:28:06 GMT 1
If we end up going down (again), you've got to question What was the point in moving from a scenic old fashioned ground, in the centre of town which had a decent atmosphere with 2500 fans through the gates on a Tuesday evening, to a soulless lego type stadium out of town with **** all atmosphere. Dread going to games these days unless we're away. This January transfer window has done it for me, Roland and Brian out. Doubt I'll go again this season. Fed up of our souless club lacking ambition. Roland has taken us as far as he can, but is now actually taking us backwards. 12 years at the new ground and by the time we go down this season we could arguably be in a worse position than when we arrived here. Angry with the club for ****ing up the best chance in a generation. 3,000 at home for our first home game against Solihull Moors or Morecombe next year?
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Post by bhmon on Jan 30, 2019 0:34:51 GMT 1
Don’t blame Ricketts too much as it’s not his squad, blame has to be aimed higher. The decision to bring in Askey who didn’t have a clue, then to replace him with another inexperienced manager has proved badly wrong. Askey was never the right appointment and to give him the amount of £££ we did was crazy as he’s blown it on the likes of Norburn and Waterfall on a huge contract. Leaves Ricketts in a position where he will get the stick, but he didn’t make the decision to bring these lads in, Askey/Caldwell did. If we do go down, blame has to be directed above management as they’re the ones choosing these inexperienced lower league managers, all to try and emulate the Hurst success, lightning doesn’t strike twice! How thick do you have to be? Still bleating about JA. He did NOT spend much when replacing 7 or 8 of our best players. We'll make a substantial profit when his signings are sold on. His tenure was financially successful. After the disastrous start, we had turned the corner. Results were on the up. We would certainly not be in this precarious position had he been left at the helm. I warned at the time. I hate to say it, but we jettisoned a true football man to appease the moaners. Can we put to one side this idiotic notion that JA is inexperienced? You're just showing your lack of any knowledge. Do some reading and find out a bit more about him.
Huge contracts? Get real. We can build a defence around Waterfall. Not around Sadler, unfortunately.
I agree that Caldwell deserves some criticism. Poor leadership helped undermine his man. He made his scapegoat.
While giving out free passes to SR, don't forget that he inherited a side that had found its feet. We all know what has happened since then.
Spot on Jimmy lad. We weren't getting promoted this season under Askey, but certainly didn't see enough to think we'd be deep in a relegation battle, and we had actually starting winning a few league games when trigger was pulled!
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Post by shrewswolf on Jan 30, 2019 1:53:15 GMT 1
Our club isn’t rotten to the core, it’s just a smallish club with a smallish budget that currently has a smallish budget type team.
It’s not good enough on the pitch and I’m as annoyed as anybody by the mistakes of the manager/team tonight but come on.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 7:12:53 GMT 1
Our club isn’t rotten to the core, it’s just a smallish club with a smallish budget that currently has a smallish budget type team. It’s not good enough on the pitch and I’m as annoyed as anybody by the mistakes of the manager/team tonight but come on..... Smallish budget? With respect, How many millions have we made lately? Lidl, cup runs, Nolan, Nisala, Payne, Morris, Goldson sell on fee, Woods sell on fee etc. It seems when we are doing okay the club bills itself as ambitious with "state of the art facilities" etc, but, whenever we hit the buffers we sudden go back to being little Shrewsbury. Can't have it both ways.
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Jan 30, 2019 7:35:13 GMT 1
Our club isn’t rotten to the core, it’s just a smallish club with a smallish budget that currently has a smallish budget type team. It’s not good enough on the pitch and I’m as annoyed as anybody by the mistakes of the manager/team tonight but come on..... Smallish budget? With respect, How many millions have we made lately? Lidl, cup runs, Nolan, Nisala, Payne, Morris, Goldson sell on fee, Woods sell on fee etc. It seems when we are doing okay the club bills itself as ambitious with "state of the art facilities" etc, but, whenever we hit the buffers we sudden go back to being little Shrewsbury. Can't have it both ways. Going back to League 2 would be a financial nightmare. Stevenage bringing 30 fans...
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Post by hankmaloysenior on Jan 30, 2019 7:57:08 GMT 1
The 'little Shrewsbury' tag really gets on my tits. We've spent the vast majority of our history in the third tier or higher. We should never be considered a small club at this level. In regard to attendances, budgets etc we are a middling third tier club. I always view our par as being somewhere between 10th and 16th. Occasionally we should challenge the play-offs (far more often than we have done) and occasionally I know we will be hovering above the drop zone.
BUT last season should have been the game-changer. I knew as early as pre-Christmas 2017 that the squad would be stripped of the best players but I wasn't too gutted about not going up as I thought the money we brought in from the saleable assets, improved attendances, cup-run would enable us to solidify ourselves as a upper mid table side who could regularly challenge for the play-offs. Particularly, given all the other cash we've brought in over the last few seasons/this summer.
Instead, we've lost all momentum. Relegation would be a disaster and undo years of gradual progress.
Say what you like about Askey but the signing of Fey was a masterstroke (although it was a bizarre decision not to play him straight away). I thought when we signed him that he's the kind of player Peterborough would buy and then sell him on for £2-3million within a couple of years. I think that's even more likely now as he is very desired commodity - a natural goalscorer with a brilliant strike rate at a good age. But would I trust Salop to reinvest even half the money in the squad and spend it wisely. Would I ****.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Jan 30, 2019 8:00:27 GMT 1
Our club isn’t rotten to the core... Yeah, does seem a bit strong that. From what you read I'd look to Chesterfield as being in that state currently, we're not in that situation at all.
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Post by salop81 on Jan 30, 2019 8:03:37 GMT 1
Our club isn’t rotten to the core... Yeah, does seem a bit strong that. From what you read I'd look to Chesterfield as being in that state currently, we're not in that situation at all. Not yet stuttgartershrew...not yet...but the first step is in motion and that is a L2 return soon...😬
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 8:08:27 GMT 1
Whilst Im as p**sed off as the next person as how the season has panned out, the continuous claims of us being 'rotten to the core' by a small number of posters are nonsense, clubs like Blackpool, Charlton, Bolton, Coventry, Chesterfield fall into that category.
We are a club who a actually from the outside are a good model how to run a football club, small club with no debt, own our own ground, own our training ground and have recently earnt millions recently from transfer fees. Then theres attempts to improve relations with fans via the SP which has led to safe standing, supporters bar and others initiatives. Yes it's not perfect but is going in the right direction.
The reality is a number of the off field issues have been around for a long time but fans will forget about them when things are going well on the pitch. And that's what it all comes down to, results on the pitch and this season has generally been poor which is why we get some of this melodramatic stuff.
The club got it wrong in the summer and are suffering now, the worry for me is they don't appear to be resolving it. 5 players signed and on face value only a (fit) Dave Edwards will improve the first team, seems madness when we are in a relegation battle and with such obvious weaknesses in the team. The question is whether that is down to financial restrictions or lack of contacts for our new manager. I guess we will never know but I hope we survive and it doesn't become such a big question
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