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Post by wibbin on Nov 5, 2014 18:06:35 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me if any food banks are operating in Shrewsbury and if so some more info would be gratefully received.
Thanks in advance
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Post by RBA on Nov 5, 2014 18:32:23 GMT 1
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Post by RBA on Nov 5, 2014 18:34:25 GMT 1
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Post by jamo on Nov 5, 2014 20:02:49 GMT 1
TBH Is definitely the best source of information for this, I am sure that there is one that operates out of The United Reform Church on Coleham Head.
Fancy a middle class little Tory town like sleepy old Shrewsbury needing food banks ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 21:31:33 GMT 1
Why? Is it only Labour voters that get hungry! As the man said, " wer'e ALL in this, together."
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 5, 2014 23:03:04 GMT 1
Apparently the rise in food banks is down to the fact people won't turn their nose up at a free meal - if you listen to Tory toss-pieces like Duncan-Smith, anyway.
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Post by shrewinjapan on Nov 5, 2014 23:57:06 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me if any food banks are operating in Shrewsbury and if so some more info would be gratefully received. Thanks in advance You're surely not that skint, are you Rodders?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 0:48:33 GMT 1
Workshy lazy barstewards.
That or people just aren't paid enough for the work that they do.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 6, 2014 6:17:59 GMT 1
TBH Is definitely the best source of information for this, I am sure that there is one that operates out of The United Reform Church on Coleham Head. Fancy a middle class little Tory town like sleepy old Shrewsbury needing food banks ? Barnabas Church Centre in Coleham is where Shrewsbury foodbank has it's store, with a distribution point in harlescott grange at hope church centre. I think this is the same conversation I'm having on Facebook?
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Post by wibbin on Nov 6, 2014 8:53:10 GMT 1
TBH Is definitely the best source of information for this, I am sure that there is one that operates out of The United Reform Church on Coleham Head. Fancy a middle class little Tory town like sleepy old Shrewsbury needing food banks ? Barnabas Church Centre in Coleham is where Shrewsbury foodbank has it's store, with a distribution point in harlescott grange at hope church centre. I think this is the same conversation I'm having on Facebook?
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Post by atcham jack on Nov 6, 2014 11:04:31 GMT 1
many of the so called "new jobs" are on minimum wage, zero hours contracts. many people may have to take 2 or 3 jobs to get by, and use food banks. there is no such thing as sleepy old tory towns, but in Shrewsbury there are isolated pockets of wealth.
workers all deserve a living wage, and although people scoff and taunt labour and Milleband it will be they who form the largest party next May and re distribute our wealth on a lesser scale than last time. poorly paid workers and the NHS are crying out for re distribution of wealth.
Ashamed to once have been a Tory. Maggie and the Miners strike put paid to that
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 6, 2014 13:04:03 GMT 1
This is not intended as a party political point, but there is such hardship just now for people being changed from one set of benefits to another. Sometimes a 2-3 week gap between one stopping and another starting.
The money is 'backdated' but in those weeks in between the cupboards are bare.
It's quite heart wrenching really, that the system itself takes money out of people's hands for an administrative reason, and the stress that causes.
That's a far cry from the 'idle poor' narrative being spread by the press.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 16:34:39 GMT 1
many of the so called "new jobs" are on minimum wage, zero hours contracts. many people may have to take 2 or 3 jobs to get by, and use food banks. there is no such thing as sleepy old tory towns, but in Shrewsbury there are isolated pockets of wealth. workers all deserve a living wage, and although people scoff and taunt labour and Milleband it will be they who form the largest party next May and re distribute our wealth on a lesser scale than last time. poorly paid workers and the NHS are crying out for re distribution of wealth. Ashamed to once have been a Tory. Maggie and the Miners strike put paid to that I see you in an entirely different light now AJ . You have gone up in my estimation a 100 fold.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 18:10:29 GMT 1
That's a far cry from the 'idle poor' narrative being spread by the press. You mean the Daily Mail.....
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 6, 2014 19:29:40 GMT 1
That's a far cry from the 'idle poor' narrative being spread by the press. You mean the Daily Mail..... If only it was just them
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 15:37:55 GMT 1
You mean the Daily Mail..... If only it was just them You’re right of course and it’s sickening.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 21, 2014 13:53:30 GMT 1
Latest news from the food bank
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Post by jamo on Nov 21, 2014 13:56:09 GMT 1
Fair play Throb, i don't know whether to feel proud of that achievement or to just weep for the need for it.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Nov 21, 2014 14:02:42 GMT 1
Both, in equal measure - but while the need is there the people of Shrewsbury and surrounding villages continue to look after their own and it is really humbling.
Out of my office window I see people collecting their parcels and I see people bringing food to donate and it has reached the stage where you don't know who is who these days, because so many people are affected by food poverty and because so many people are willing to help - even to the point where we have former clients now donating.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Nov 24, 2014 18:34:56 GMT 1
If only the Unions hadn't cuddled up to Labour and supported its unvetted mass immigration policy, the working wage might actually be worth something.
But what does a £30+k a year union rep know about the need of food banks eh. Just as bad as those they claim to oppose.
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Post by venceremos on Nov 24, 2014 19:13:14 GMT 1
If only the Unions hadn't cuddled up to Labour and supported its unvetted mass immigration policy, the working wage might actually be worth something. But what does a £30+k a year union rep know about the need of food banks eh. Just as bad as those they claim to oppose. Wow, three (or is it four?) tenuous links for the price of one! Let me try and get my head around this theory. We need food banks because wages are low because of mass immigration because of Labour policy because of union support. Is that it? No mention of the corn laws being repealed though. Surprised you missed that one out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 19:14:06 GMT 1
If only the Unions hadn't cuddled up to Labour and supported its unvetted mass immigration policy, the working wage might actually be worth something. But what does a £30+k a year union rep know about the need of food banks eh. Just as bad as those they claim to oppose. Have you used a food bank? Tell us your personal knowledge and insight.
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Nov 24, 2014 19:24:53 GMT 1
If only the Unions hadn't cuddled up to Labour and supported its unvetted mass immigration policy, the working wage might actually be worth something. But what does a £30+k a year union rep know about the need of food banks eh. Just as bad as those they claim to oppose. Wow, three (or is it four?) tenuous links for the price of one! Let me try and get my head around this theory. We need food banks because wages are low because of mass immigration because of Labour policy because of union support. Is that it? No mention of the corn laws being repealed though. Surprised you missed that one out. Simple math is it not? More demand for jobs with a bigger population but less available work drives down wages and means companies can quite literally hang their staff out to dry and offer pittance in the way of wages, fixed hour contracts, pensions, work conditions and everything else. I've hardly reinvented the wheel with that statement, I'm personally not sure what's so difficult to understand about it
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Post by mattmw on Nov 24, 2014 19:43:05 GMT 1
Wow, three (or is it four?) tenuous links for the price of one! Let me try and get my head around this theory. We need food banks because wages are low because of mass immigration because of Labour policy because of union support. Is that it? No mention of the corn laws being repealed though. Surprised you missed that one out. Simple math is it not? More demand for jobs with a bigger population but less available work drives down wages and means companies can quite literally hang their staff out to dry and offer pittance in the way of wages, fixed hour contracts, pensions, work conditions and everything else. I've hardly reinvented the wheel with that statement, I'm personally not sure what's so difficult to understand about it According to the ONS there are over 2 million more jobs in the economy in 2014 than in 1999, so while the population has increased the number of jobs has also increased
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Post by venceremos on Nov 24, 2014 19:46:26 GMT 1
Simple math is it not? More demand for jobs with a bigger population but less available work drives down wages and means companies can quite literally hang their staff out to dry and offer pittance in the way of wages, fixed hour contracts, pensions, work conditions and everything else. I've hardly reinvented the wheel with that statement, I'm personally not sure what's so difficult to understand about it According to the ONS there are over 2 million more jobs in the economy in 2014 than in 1999, so while the population has increased the number of jobs has also increased Not so simple maths (not math) then!
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Nov 24, 2014 20:04:42 GMT 1
According to Migration watch, between 1991 and 2012 net migration resulted in an additional 3.4 million people to the UK population.
So assuming both statistics are factually correct, the number of people coming into the country during that time significantly outnumbers the amount of jobs.
Not intended as an immigration bashing rant but more aimed at the resident leftie who spersoned at the idea of there being food banks in 'middle class Tory Shrewsbury'
Interesting for Milipede to come out this week and berate Sports Direct (again) for employing people on zero-hours contracts, when A. Zero hour contracts were brought in by the Labour government and B. Over 60 Labour MP's employ people on zero-hour contracts.
More Labourites from the 'as I say, not as I do' camp.
And we wonder why there's more food banks. More say
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Post by mattmw on Nov 24, 2014 20:28:38 GMT 1
Population of the UK grew by 6 million between 1991 and 2011, but the percentage of the working age population remained at around 65% (ONS)
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Post by jamo on Nov 24, 2014 20:57:48 GMT 1
Anyone got any statistics for net emigration from The U.K. for the years 1991- 2012 ?
Would help the debate if they could be produced.
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Post by mattmw on Nov 24, 2014 21:08:17 GMT 1
Anyone got any statistics for net emigration from The U.K. for the years 1991- 2012 ? Would help the debate if they could be produced. In 1991 emigration from the UK was 285,000 people per year and this rose steadily to an average of 321,000 a year in 2012 (ONS figures)
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Post by shrewsace on Nov 24, 2014 21:08:29 GMT 1
Have we ever had an 'unvetted mass immigration policy' or is that something of an exaggeration?
Did Labour 'bring in' zero hour contracts? Not sure about that, would it not be more accurate to say they sprung up during New Labour's time in office? Although admittedly Nu-Labour and its paranoia of being painted as 'anti-business' probably did too little to clamp down on such exploitative practices.
Talking of exploitative practices, good to see LSF having a pop at low wages and the driving down of conditions.
You should join a union comrade. No race to the bottom!
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