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Post by islaymalt on Oct 9, 2011 11:35:13 GMT 1
I liked your 3, 6, 14 and 16
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Post by spartan on Oct 9, 2011 12:02:45 GMT 1
I was intrigued by the series of nominations of Matt Richards for MOM.
Yes he he his goal very well, and had a decent first half.
Second half he was chasing shadows, well off the pace.
We are 10 weeks into the season, and Richards had just 75 minutes on the pitch in the month of September. We don't have a reserve team to develop match-fitness of the players not getting regular first team football.
So is he at 70, 80, 90% match fitness? If the answer is 70 then I'm encouraged that there is more to come. If it's over 90, then our midfield which is not the toughest across the park has to be strengthened.
Barnet's second goal illustrates what happens when we depend on Wright and Gornell to perform defensive duties on the edge of the box.
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Post by mattmw on Oct 9, 2011 12:14:08 GMT 1
I've not quite worked out Richards yet. He seems to read the game well and has a good range of passes - particularly the long ball down the wings.
But he also seems a bit slow in closing people down and tracking back in midfield, and it's difficult to judge his fitness as he has played so little
Going into the winter months and the more muddy conditions we'll encounter away from home I'd quite like to see another midfielder brought in who can break up play and close down the opposition. I'm not sure the centre three we have gives us quite enough options.
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Post by blue and ambar on Oct 9, 2011 12:30:57 GMT 1
Lets be even more honest................ you have hardly posted a word about "our" side in a really good run of 7 wins out of nine having condemned us pre season as a bottom half of the table team. Or be even more honest and recognise that actually GT has improved the squad/team with his signings....you having written them off before they even had a chance to kick a ball. And please don't start me on your ramblings about the central midfield or should we go and beg for Disley back. And how are Crewe doing with their fantastic manager Paul, if you believe the current squad playing as they did today are strong enough to win promotion I suggest you get some new glasses. If we played well I doubt you would be giving comments on here. Wasnt the best performance town have had but the points is all that matters. Playing poorly and winning is the sign of a good side anyway I would of thought. How about the games against Vale, Torquay, Hereford etc? Were they good enough to win promotion?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 12:31:21 GMT 1
As people have suggested a strange game, very low key and no one seemed up for it initially
When we attacked them they looked shakey at the back but they could say the same about us, Id have said a draw was definitely a fair result.
For me the biggest problem with us is our inability to kill games off, Torquay, Hereford and now Barnet are games where we could have easily gone on to win 3 or 4 nil but we seem to sit back when we get to 2 nil and invite pressure on ourselves. However we did show good character to go onto win the game yesterday when could have easily crumbled and heads gone down when it went to 2-2
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Post by willsmith99 on Oct 9, 2011 13:20:00 GMT 1
I said Richards seemed to be blowing after about 30 mins yesterday,he also was stood still with his hands on his hips on the edge of our 18 yard box when Barnet were looking to score a second goal. He does need to step up his fitness before he has a regular place in the starting 11.
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Post by starlight on Oct 9, 2011 13:36:29 GMT 1
Our central defence of Sharps and Sherriff is just nowhere near good enough. Thought Wroe had his worst game since arriving here. As G.T said we just kept giving the ball away. To many players had poor games, Sharps, Sherriff, Wroe, Wright. Pleased with Gornell, and Ainsworth was decent in patches. Need to improve a lot if we're going to get any points at Crawley and Rotherham.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 13:39:01 GMT 1
Let's be honest three points are three points but that is the luckiest three points the Town have got since Turner was appointed. It was in my opinion the poorest home performance under Turner. No urgency, no control only hoof ball. If the town are to win automatic promotion there needs to be at least 3 additions to the squad. The squad today was besides Bradshaw those players available to Turner and I'm afraid there are several who just aren't consistent enough. Firstly Ed, good to see your still talking football Id agree that we were lucky to get 3 points yesterday and it was a bit harsh on Barnet, however to say that it was the worst home performance under Turner, well thats stretching it to say the least I dont agree with it being just hoofball, at times we played some decent football (or tried to) but I will admit that at times we were playing some aimless balls forward out of defence, but I think that wasnt helped by Barnet playing a very high line leaving little space in the middle. In my eyes we went 2-0 up, looked comfortable but then sat back and invited pressure on ourselves like a few home games this season. We looked like we had thrown it away but showed good character to come back and get the winner. Not perfect but it was 3 points and a fairly entertaining game with goals, isnt that what your always saying you want? I mean you infamously moaned when we won 4-1 so surely you would be happy with a 3-2 tight fought victory? Id be interested to know your opinions of a) the several players who arent consistent enough and b) what positions these 3 additions would be
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 13:46:55 GMT 1
Paul, if you believe the current squad playing as they did today are strong enough to win promotion I suggest you get some new glasses. If we played well I doubt you would be giving comments on here. Wasnt the best performance town have had but the points is all that matters. Playing poorly and winning is the sign of a good side anyway I would of thought How about the games against Vale, Torquay, Hereford etc? Were they good enough to win promotion? Recognising that there are problems and dealing with them before we play the stronger teams. Currently we have only played 4 games against top half teams
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 13:57:47 GMT 1
If we played well I doubt you would be giving comments on here. Wasnt the best performance town have had but the points is all that matters. Playing poorly and winning is the sign of a good side anyway I would of thought How about the games against Vale, Torquay, Hereford etc? Were they good enough to win promotion? Recognising that there are problems and dealing with them before we play the stronger teams. Currently we have only played 4 games against top half teams I make it 5 Ed, all of which were away and we have won 2, drawn 1 and lost 2 Southend - L Burton - D Oxford - L Gillingham - W Vale - W
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Post by blue and ambar on Oct 9, 2011 14:51:22 GMT 1
If we played well I doubt you would be giving comments on here. Wasnt the best performance town have had but the points is all that matters. Playing poorly and winning is the sign of a good side anyway I would of thought How about the games against Vale, Torquay, Hereford etc? Were they good enough to win promotion? Recognising that there are problems and dealing with them before we play the stronger teams. Currently we have only played 4 games against top half teams I am sure that Turner will be adressing the negative points about yesterday and it would be more difficult to beat the better teams in the league if we play like that against them. But it will be a different game maybe town were a bit complacent against Barnet, it was almost a repeat of the England game. As for additions have to wait till January for that.
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 15:38:55 GMT 1
Let's be honest three points are three points but that is the luckiest three points the Town have got since Turner was appointed. It was in my opinion the poorest home performance under Turner. No urgency, no control only hoof ball. If the town are to win automatic promotion there needs to be at least 3 additions to the squad. The squad today was besides Bradshaw those players available to Turner and I'm afraid there are several who just aren't consistent enough. Firstly Ed, good to see your still talking footbal Id agree that we were lucky to get 3 points yesterday and it was a bit harsh on Barnet, however to say that it was the worst home performance under Turner, well thats stretching it to say the least I dont agree with it being just hoofball, at times we played some decent football (or tried to) but I will admit that at times we were playing some aimless balls forward out of defence, but I think that wasnt helped by Barnet playing a very high line leaving little space in the middle. In my eyes we went 2-0 up, looked comfortable but then sat back and invited pressure on ourselves like a few home games this season. We looked like we had thrown it away but showed good character to come back and get the winner. Not perfect but it was 3 points and a fairly entertaining game with goals, isnt that what your always saying you want? I mean you infamously moaned when we won 4-1 so surely you would be happy with a 3-2 tight fought victory? Id be interested to know your opinions of a) the several players who arent consistent enough and b) what positions these 3 additions would be Paul, I don't think that I said the game wasn't entertaining just that it was dire football, yes literally once or twice we strung more than a couple of passes together, but most time the back four got the ball it was hoof ball up the field and hope. Without naming individual players I think that the Town's defence is not as strong as strong as I would have hoped, midfield has been better going forward but I'm not sure it is protecting the defence as I would have expected far to often players are allowed to run 20 or 30 yards towards the penalty area. Upfront is strong although I'm not sure dropping a player who has scored 3 in 3 gives the right message. In terms of additions: goalkeeper, defender and midfield. Yesterday we had all the available players in the squad. What would have happened if one of the players had been injured in the warm up as happen earlier in the season.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 16:13:35 GMT 1
Firstly Ed, good to see your still talking footbal Id agree that we were lucky to get 3 points yesterday and it was a bit harsh on Barnet, however to say that it was the worst home performance under Turner, well thats stretching it to say the least I dont agree with it being just hoofball, at times we played some decent football (or tried to) but I will admit that at times we were playing some aimless balls forward out of defence, but I think that wasnt helped by Barnet playing a very high line leaving little space in the middle. In my eyes we went 2-0 up, looked comfortable but then sat back and invited pressure on ourselves like a few home games this season. We looked like we had thrown it away but showed good character to come back and get the winner. Not perfect but it was 3 points and a fairly entertaining game with goals, isnt that what your always saying you want? I mean you infamously moaned when we won 4-1 so surely you would be happy with a 3-2 tight fought victory? Id be interested to know your opinions of a) the several players who arent consistent enough and b) what positions these 3 additions would be Paul, I don't think that I said the game wasn't entertaining just that it was dire football, yes literally once or twice we strung more than a couple of passes together, but most time the back four got the ball it was hoof ball up the field and hope. Without naming individual players I think that the Town's defence is not as strong as strong as I would have hoped, midfield has been better going forward but I'm not sure it is protecting the defence as I would have expected far to often players are allowed to run 20 or 30 yards towards the penalty area. Upfront is strong although I'm not sure dropping a player who has scored 3 in 3 gives the right message. In terms of additions: goalkeeper, defender and midfield. Yesterday we had all the available players in the squad. What would have happened if one of the players had been injured in the warm up as happen earlier in the season. Oh my word, we seem to have caught you off guard, there were definitely hints of satisfaction in your last post. Was that half praise for the central midfield? Anyway I would be willing to spend a few minutes debating your points at length as long as you answer this question first: Shrewsbury have started the season well and have won 7 out of their last 9 league games as well as putting together a great run in the League Cup. Surely every supporter would find some excitement and positive things to post about during a sequence like that Well not quite everybody, the run coincides with you hardly posting about football on here at all, despite logging on lots.............why?
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Post by andygroundo on Oct 9, 2011 16:20:48 GMT 1
It was in my opinion the poorest home performance under Turner. You missed Morecambe last season then
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 16:33:09 GMT 1
Paul, you are mistaken for some unknown reason I appear to be permanently signed on via my iPad. So even though it appears that I am logged on I am much too busy to discuss the fortunes of STFC which fortunately or not is not my top priority these days.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 17:25:32 GMT 1
Paul, you are mistaken for some unknown reason I appear to be permanently signed on via my iPad. So even though it appears that I am logged on I am much too busy to discuss the fortunes of STFC which fortunately or not is not my top priority these days. Oh I see.............. just a coincidence then Perhaps your iPad decides to proritise contributing to the political threads rather than saying anything positive about our decent start to the season. Oh well It takes all kinds of supporters I suppose
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 17:40:17 GMT 1
Paul, you are mistaken for some unknown reason I appear to be permanently signed on via my iPad. So even though it appears that I am logged on I am much too busy to discuss the fortunes of STFC which fortunately or not is not my top priority these days. Oh I see.............. just a coincidence then Perhaps your iPad decides to proritise contributing to the political threads rather than saying anything positive about our decent start to the season. Oh well It takes all kinds of supporters I suppose There again politics is slightly more important than, I suspect you'll find that even my political posts are far less frequent than before. Also un like many I do not comment on games I have not seen. It does take all sorts of supporters you know there are even some supporters who believe that all Turner's summer signings were better that the players they were supposed to replace.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 17:46:35 GMT 1
Oh I see.............. just a coincidence then Perhaps your iPad decides to proritise contributing to the political threads rather than saying anything positive about our decent start to the season. Oh well It takes all kinds of supporters I suppose There again politics is slightly more important than, I suspect you'll find that even my political posts are far less frequent than before. Also un like many I do not comment on games I have not seen. It does take all sorts of supporters you know there are even some supporters who believe that all Turner's summer signings were better that the players they were supposed to replace. Politics is important but not a priority I would have thought on a STFC football messageboard. Ignoring Regan, who has been injured for most of the time, which ones arent better
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Post by blue and ambar on Oct 9, 2011 17:47:32 GMT 1
Paul, you are mistaken for some unknown reason I appear to be permanently signed on via my iPad. So even though it appears that I am logged on I am much too busy to discuss the fortunes of STFC which fortunately or not is not my top priority these days. Oh I see.............. just a coincidence then Perhaps your iPad decides to proritise contributing to the political threads rather than saying anything positive about our decent start to the season. Oh well It takes all kinds of supporters I suppose I'm sure discussing STFC is a priority but apparently not when the team are doing well. Funny that time can always be found when there is something to moan about.
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 19:01:04 GMT 1
There again politics is slightly more important than, I suspect you'll find that even my political posts are far less frequent than before. Also un like many I do not comment on games I have not seen. It does take all sorts of supporters you know there are even some supporters who believe that all Turner's summer signings were better that the players they were supposed to replace. Politics is important but not a priority I would have thought on a STFC football messageboard. Ignoring Regan, who has been injured for most of the time, which ones arent better Some of Turner's summer signings have yet to have the opportunity to demonstrate their ability, however out of those that have played a reasonable number of games only one seems an improvement over the player they have replaced.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 19:13:48 GMT 1
Politics is important but not a priority I would have thought on a STFC football messageboard. Ignoring Regan, who has been injured for most of the time, which ones arent better Some of Turner's summer signings have yet to have the opportunity to demonstrate their ability, however out of those that have played a reasonable number of games only one seems an improvement over the player they have replaced. A good political answer there. I will give you a bit more of a clue. Robinson and Harrold are sat on the bench at teams currently in the bottom half of League 2, Robinson hasnt scored all season. MacIntyre is a regular starter for Accy, another team in the bottom half of League 2............... he hasnt scored. Disley has guided Grimsby, a non league side to below AFCTU in the league
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Post by tvor on Oct 9, 2011 19:21:08 GMT 1
Shrewsbury have started the season well and have won 7 out of their last 9 league games as well as putting together a great run in the League Cup. Our bottom half of the table quality squad, often depleted by injuries, must be massively over achieving this season hey?
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Post by SouthStandShrew on Oct 9, 2011 20:21:36 GMT 1
Were two points off the top!
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Post by Shrewed on Oct 9, 2011 20:35:16 GMT 1
Some of Turner's summer signings have yet to have the opportunity to demonstrate their ability, however out of those that have played a reasonable number of games only one seems an improvement over the player they have replaced. A good political answer there. I will give you a bit more of a clue. Robinson and Harrold are sat on the bench at teams currently in the bottom half of League 2, Robinson hasnt scored all season. MacIntyre is a regular starter for Accy, another team in the bottom half of League 2............... he hasnt scored. Disley has guided Grimsby, a non league side to below AFCTU in the league Paul your selective memory is nearly as bad as your unbiased statistics. Since when has what a player doing at the moment got anything to do with how they were playing last season. If that was the case Taylor would be a far worse player this season that last. Using your illogical method of deciding a players form let metics you a clue both Raven and Sadler are playing in a division above us.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 9, 2011 20:41:41 GMT 1
Weirdly enough, like last season we have started with an excellent home record and dropped points away from home. In both seasons it looks as if we've been playing the weaker teams at home, it looks like we've had a really tough away start (which doesn't get easier any time soon), and we've managed to eak out a few more points from these this season round. I wonder if like last season, we will see a downturn in our home results, and upturn in our away results in the second half of the season?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2011 21:19:28 GMT 1
A good political answer there. I will give you a bit more of a clue. Robinson and Harrold are sat on the bench at teams currently in the bottom half of League 2, Robinson hasnt scored all season. MacIntyre is a regular starter for Accy, another team in the bottom half of League 2............... he hasnt scored. Disley has guided Grimsby, a non league side to below AFCTU in the league Paul your selective memory is nearly as bad as your unbiased statistics. Since when has what a player doing at the moment got anything to do with how they were playing last season.Since when has what a player doing at the moment got anything to do with how they were playing last season. If that was the case Taylor would be a far worse player this season that last. Using your illogical method of deciding a players form let metics you a clue both Raven and Sadler are playing in a division above us. Sorry I jest, it just seems that a lot of the teams they went to seem to be in the bottom half and that should have been us by now surely with our poor squad Anyway, why you are swamped with such positivity please tell us who the one better player is
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