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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 11, 2011 12:43:55 GMT 1
why did he not wave yesterday? i can only assume he was told not to due to the last time hairyfud visited it wound them up like mad ( LOL) can anyone confirm?
also when morgan was celebrating his first all the team ran to him by block 19/18 and then sharps came over and B*****ked them :S
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Post by ssshrew on Sept 11, 2011 12:46:33 GMT 1
I think that must be correct. He just very gently shook his head and now I don't know if I imagined it but I thought he mouthed 'not today'.
It could well be that the team were told not to run to that corner as well. Met up with a Hereford fan before the game and apparently one of the most inflammatory moments last year was when Wright scored and celebrated there.
I've no idea whether this is right or wrong but there it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 12:46:34 GMT 1
why did he not wave yesterday? i can only assume he was told not to due to the last time hairyfud visited it wound them up like mad ( LOL) can anyone confirm? also when morgan was celebrating his first all the team ran to him by block 19/18 and then sharps came over and B*****ked them :S Just maybe, he's bored of it, generally 3 - 4 times a game, and he needed to concentrate on the defence being over run?? just a possibility!!
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Post by elmundo on Sept 11, 2011 12:55:28 GMT 1
He was told last season by the Police not to do it as it was inciting the away fans.
So, he didn't do it today to ensure he couldn't be held responsible for any trouble that may have occured.
Quite responsible and sensible in my opinion.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 11, 2011 13:04:33 GMT 1
i agree but it was anoying them scum laughing at us when he didnt wave and then people tried it again
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Post by elmundo on Sept 11, 2011 13:10:11 GMT 1
i agree but it was anoying them scum laughing at us when he didnt wave and then people tried it again Well that is more idiocy of our own fans then!!
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 11, 2011 13:12:45 GMT 1
i agree but it was anoying them scum laughing at us when he didnt wave and then people tried it again Well that is more idiocy of our own fans then!! yer people learnt after the second time tho
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 11, 2011 13:14:35 GMT 1
Probably the most tedious chant even for Shrewsbury fans. Whether its Hereford or not, why ask a manager to wave 20 minutes into a match? I cringe when I hear 'Turner Turner give us a wave' regardless of who we're playing, its just so out of place and juvenile. Just let the man get on with his job.
On the topic of the celebration, if there is any truth in not being allowed to celebrate remotely near the away fans for fear of 'incitement' then there really is something wrong.. I understand Turner not waving for the sake of seeing it as disrespectful to the club he used to manage for 15 odd years, but if it was under police advice then I think there's a few people who really need to grow a backbone and get a grip on reality. Its Hereford United for christ sake not Millwall.
Combine this with the attitude of the over-zealous bebop and rocksteady stewards who will happily obstruct your view and ignore any requests to sit down for the last 15 minutes of the game and we really do have a football club governed by a mentality that wouldn't be too out of place in the communist Soviet Union.
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Post by davycrockett on Sept 11, 2011 14:06:42 GMT 1
Yes but if the fans in block 18/19 didn't insist on surging to the front when we score or towards the end of the game or bating the opposition fans (other than friendly banter) they wouldn't be stood there in the first place...................
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Post by Ned on Sept 11, 2011 14:35:50 GMT 1
Don't forget, those in 18/19 are hooligans
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2011 14:36:42 GMT 1
maybe he couldnt hear you
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 11, 2011 14:51:42 GMT 1
Yes but if the fans in block 18/19 didn't insist on surging to the front when we score or towards the end of the game or bating the opposition fans (other than friendly banter) they wouldn't be stood there in the first place................... Its natural to surge to the front especially when the players runs to the supporters. it used to happen at the old ground so why suddenly its outlawed in the new stadium I'll never know. The next step will be players being told they can't celebrate with their own supporters! That will be a sad day but I can't help but think its the next natural step to be taken by the dranconian safety officer and big wigs at this club to ensure all excitement and emotion is all but taken away from the match day experience at this stadium. No wonder attendances are down
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 15:09:13 GMT 1
Yes but if the fans in block 18/19 didn't insist on surging to the front when we score or towards the end of the game or bating the opposition fans (other than friendly banter) they wouldn't be stood there in the first place................... Its natural to surge to the front especially when the players runs to the supporters. it used to happen at the old ground so why suddenly its outlawed in the new stadium I'll never know. The next step will be players being told they can't celebrate with their own supporters! That will be a sad day but I can't help but think its the next natural step to be taken by the dranconian safety officer and big wigs at this club to ensure all excitement and emotion is all but taken away from the match day experience at this stadium. No wonder attendances are down Gebba, not sure if your one of the ones that can not celebrate without the need to go to the far left hand side and throw abuse at the away fans when we score, at the old ground, the away fans were contained, and a hell of a distance due to the unsafe stand at the end of the riverside. If people could contain themselves, and celebrated scoring then not an issue, but it is spoilt by the morons who feel that berrating the away fans is a justified element of celebrating a goal!!
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2011 15:34:57 GMT 1
as i mentioned yesterday i saw most of the first half of the game from very close to block 19
again 90% of songs and chants were aimed at hereford nearly all with swearing in them
how pathetic is that
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Post by QuorndonShrew on Sept 11, 2011 15:46:22 GMT 1
Its natural to surge to the front especially when the players runs to the supporters. it used to happen at the old ground so why suddenly its outlawed in the new stadium I'll never know. The next step will be players being told they can't celebrate with their own supporters! That will be a sad day but I can't help but think its the next natural step to be taken by the dranconian safety officer and big wigs at this club to ensure all excitement and emotion is all but taken away from the match day experience at this stadium. No wonder attendances are down Gebba, not sure if your one of the ones that can not celebrate without the need to go to the far left hand side and throw abuse at the away fans when we score, at the old ground, the away fans were contained, and a hell of a distance due to the unsafe stand at the end of the riverside. If people could contain themselves, and celebrated scoring then not an issue, but it is spoilt by the morons who feel that berrating the away fans is a justified element of celebrating a goal!! No I'm not, and I would like to see how you came to that conclusion? If we're shooting towards the north/away stand and a player scores, its only natural that he will run to celebrate with his own supporters and logically blocks 18 and 19 are the nearest from the point of scoring. You see it at any ground in the football league, most notably I think Sunderland where like our stadium there are gangways at the front of the stand. Granted there are idiots that use it as an excuse to goad the away fans but generally when a player runs to the crowd, the fans just want to get involved in the celebrations and get as close to the players on the pitch as possible. And Pilch, I raised the point after the Plymouth game about the inane chants coming from the 14-17 year old kids at the back of block 19. 'Sit down you Pedophile' 'Lets all do the d*ckhead' or something like that yesterday. On the back of the Oxford and Torquay games at the end of last season, I think an element of our home support is in danger of getting a reputation for being mindless, chavvy little teenagers. And you can't argue with that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 16:06:07 GMT 1
Here we go again, looks like the thread is going to descend into a slagging off, of blocks 18/19 for a change.
Quite simply if people in other parts of the ground dont like the songs being sung, then why not start some of their own?
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Post by elmundo on Sept 11, 2011 16:07:31 GMT 1
Here we go again, looks like the thread is going to descend into a slagging off, of blocks 18/19 for a change. Quite simply if people in other parts of the ground dont like the songs being sung, then why not start some of their own? Because they would then get slated for dividing the support and singers!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 16:13:28 GMT 1
Because they would then get slated for dividing the support and singers! Yeah, thats the real reason that so few people in the ground sing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 16:17:11 GMT 1
Because they would then get slated for dividing the support and singers! Yeah, thats the real reason that so few people in the ground sing This, who sings loudest, who does not sing, the ground is quiet!! etc is all pretty boring really, same a crowd sizes!! all very 14yr oldish!!
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Post by elmundo on Sept 11, 2011 16:18:06 GMT 1
Because they would then get slated for dividing the support and singers! Yeah, thats the real reason that so few people in the ground sing No, its not, but you can guarantee this is the path this type of thread would go down if it did happen. I think we just need to accept that we don't have that many fans that sing, and that the atmosphere at the Meadow just won't be great until that changes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 16:26:43 GMT 1
Yeah, thats the real reason that so few people in the ground sing This, who sings loudest, who does not sing, the ground is quiet!! etc is all pretty boring really, same a crowd sizes!! all very 14yr oldish!! Well if its boring why bother commenting on it For the record Im not getting into a childish argument over who sings the most, who is the loudest and so on. What I get annoyed with is the persisent accusations that blocks 18/19 are only there to swear and abuse the away fans. Im not suggesting for one minute that the songs are the most clever, original and witty (clearly they are not), however there are plenty of songs sung in support of Shrewsbury. And my point is if people in the ground are not happy with the songs being sung, then why not try and do something about it and come up with some songs of their own. Id agree that it is boring because its the same old thing week in, week out and I have no doubt it will be like this for a long time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 17:03:50 GMT 1
Anyway, back to the original thread. I can understand why Turner didnt do it after the trouble last season, its clear that amongst certain fractions of the Hereford support he's disliked strongly so good to see him rising above it and being respectful towards them
Personally though the "give us a wave" annoys me, think its more to do with it being sung at the most inappropriate times like when we are defending a corner or something
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Post by WindsorShrew on Sept 11, 2011 17:38:12 GMT 1
Agreed its time to move on to a new chant, a chant that will unite the fanbase into song. With voices deep and booming the song will reverberate around the ground shaking the foundations.....
I think the song should be "Turner Turner put your hands in your pockets" win win I reckon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 19:44:18 GMT 1
why did he not wave yesterday? i can only assume he was told not to due to the last time hairyfud visited it wound them up like mad ( LOL) can anyone confirm? The Turner give us a wave chant just comes across as being GAY and as has already been mentioned is cringe worthy. As for block 19 it should be closed off with netting, and it's occupents should try and create a singing kop in the Southstand
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 11, 2011 20:36:13 GMT 1
why did he not wave yesterday? i can only assume he was told not to due to the last time hairyfud visited it wound them up like mad ( LOL) can anyone confirm? The Turner give us a wave chant just comes across as being GAY and as has already been mentioned is cringe worthy. As for block 19 it should be closed off with netting, and it's occupents should try and create a singing kop in the Southstand great plan, then hopefully with a bit of luck there will be no singing, atmosphere or passion whatsoever
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2011 20:43:07 GMT 1
whatever happened to
one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil
maybe block 19 could adapt it to fit into the current style of songs
you could have
one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil and maybe run down the front now and again
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 11, 2011 20:46:43 GMT 1
whatever happened to one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil maybe block 19 could adapt it to fit into the current style of songs you could have one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil and maybe run down the front now and again really dont understand why youve got such a chip on your shoulder about block 19? its the only area with any atmosphere whatsoever. yeah theres a lot of songs designed to antagonise the away support, but its the same at any football league club.. its just that the clashes that follow are made worse by non-existent police and nobhead, incapable stewards.
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Post by Pilch on Sept 11, 2011 20:53:54 GMT 1
whatever happened to one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil, one-nil maybe block 19 could adapt it to fit into the current style of songs you could have one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil, one f*****g nil and maybe run down the front now and again really dont understand why youve got such a chip on your shoulder about block 19? its the only area with any atmosphere whatsoever. yeah theres a lot of songs designed to antagonise the away support, but its the same at any football league club.. its just that the clashes that follow are made worse by non-existent police and nobhead, incapable stewards. as i mentioned the other week its very very rare i sing at a ground so i do appreciate it when the likes of 19 are singing decent songs my only problem is in my opinion 90% of songs are full of swearing aimed at the opponents again my opinion is that if 90% of songs were decent pro town songs, more and more might join in most fans simply dont want to swear
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Post by gtismygod on Sept 11, 2011 21:19:59 GMT 1
really dont understand why youve got such a chip on your shoulder about block 19? its the only area with any atmosphere whatsoever. yeah theres a lot of songs designed to antagonise the away support, but its the same at any football league club.. its just that the clashes that follow are made worse by non-existent police and nobhead, incapable stewards. as i mentioned the other week its very very rare i sing at a ground so i do appreciate it when the likes of 19 are singing decent songs my only problem is in my opinion 90% of songs are full of swearing aimed at the opponents again my opinion is that if 90% of songs were decent pro town songs, more and more might join in most fans simply dont want to swear why not? Get behind em. And I'd say more 50/50, and some of the songs are pretty funy witty. There seems to be a strange prejudice against block 19 on b&a. I do agree with you that more would join in, but why don't people come an start there own pro-town songs instead? Untill people stop moaning about those who do sing and start their own songs, it's going to remain a dull atmosphere that doesn't really help the team whatsoever. IMO the atmosphere won't pick up untill we board up the corners or create an atmosphere in the south stand.
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Post by pughywasfree on Sept 12, 2011 11:31:20 GMT 1
MOAN MOAN MOAN [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif[/img] [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif[/img] [img src="http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/ www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/mad/mad0223.gif"].gif[/img] most of the songs have been around for a long time and most of us have just learnt them not made them up yet we get abuse on here. dont like it make some new ones!!! over the 2 seasons there has been new ones as the nicky wroe song the gornell song the hereford song from saturday that didnt really catch on + others people are trying but as you can imagine its not easy so instead of having ago try supporting us supporting the team. and as for saturday IT WAS A DARBY so of course its going to have swaring and alot of abuse at the away fans. it may be wrong or right but when your teams playing so well on the field you dont have to sing supportive songs relentlessly. we are good fans that put alot of effort in so please just be greatful that you dont have to sit in silence with no atmosphere and if you dont like the offensive songs im sorry but its part of football. COYB
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