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Post by DRASFounder on Apr 22, 2004 11:46:31 GMT 1
I met Mark for the first time yesterday when I went to have a chat to him. I asked him whether or not he reads this website and he said he did... We all know what has been written on here and also about the Exec Ball.
I wanted to put across the other side of the coin....
Mark was a really nice bloke with a genuine interest for Town to make money and succeed... He has only been at the club for a matter of months so its not easy to judge whether he should or shouldnt be there or not and whether or not he is the right man for the job. Mark told me yesterday about the channels he has to send his ideas through, and unfortunately there are now 2 levels of hierarchy with Colin Poole in place, meaning ideas take longer to be given the go ahead and also be announced in the public domain.
To the subject of the summer ball.... Mark told me the idea came from above and it was his job to market the idea to the masses, unfortunately, as he acknowledges, this wasnt done in maybe the best way... I know that he feels sorry about marketing it as a 'fans awards' do, but he knows in hindsight that it was a mistake... I know we all want the club to succeed and for the evening to raise alot of money, so maybe its time to sweep this one under the carpet.... Lets look forward to some of the other forthcoming events which would be available to all of us.
I know what has been said about the appointment, and the man, but having met him yesterday, and found him receptive to new ideas, I really think he deserves a fair crack at the whip.....
Mark also said that if anyone has any issue they want to raise about any aspect of what he does, then please please get in touch with him, by all means post on here but if he isnt told about it, there is nothing he can do...
I wont be posting any replies to this thread as its just my opinion, we are all entitled to think what we like.... But as Mr Peters reads this website, it may be better not to make personal remarks about the man if you have never met him....
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Post by petetheloon on Apr 22, 2004 11:52:25 GMT 1
If he admits he made a mistake then fair enough.
You would never get a like colin poole admitting this.
Give him a bit more time and see if he learns from his mistakes.
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Post by VodkaVic on Apr 22, 2004 12:12:54 GMT 1
for me the colin poole, mark peters thing is the same as quinn.
i don't know any of them, have never met them, so would never be personal in any opinions aired. In fact I probably wouldn't (intentionally) air an opinion about them as individuals. and i have no personal experience of anything they have been involved in in the past, so for me, it stays in the past.
as with quinn the only thing that matters is results, for now at least - getting us back into the football league and generating money off the pitch.
quinn has had a year and now has 3 games against which he will be judged on how well he's done his job this year. the other two need more time to put their ideas into practice and we should judge them on results, and recognise that, like quinn, they will probably make a mistake or two on the way, e.g. end of season ball.
Let's ask the questions again in 12 months time......6 months for quinn if we don't go up this year.
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Post by SheffieldShrew on Apr 22, 2004 12:44:02 GMT 1
I totally agree DRASfounder, some of the personal remarks have been totally uncalled for.
I contacted him regarding the Lennie the Lion mothers day thing and found him to be helpful and enthusiastic towards the Town cause.
ThereĀ“s an increasing number of keyboard warriors on here slagging people off with little or no substance behind their comments.
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Post by BelleVueShrew on Apr 22, 2004 12:51:37 GMT 1
Cheers for that Iain.
Obviously if Mark reads this board, he has seen my feelings and comments on the clubs summer ball. At no time have I been deregotory to the guy himself. But I have let it be known, In what I considered a constructive way, that the club scored a PR og.
I have also stated that I hope the night sets out what it achieves in cornering a previously untapped side of the market, that is the executive market.
Hopefully the club will learn from its mistakes for next year and call it by an appropriate title that reflects it is aimed at an executive market.
It is good that Mark acknowledges the fact that the club have made a mistake in marketing the evening as a fans awards night. However, unless you had come on here and told us this Iain, we would still all be in the dark.
Communication with the fans is vitally important. Even more so in your marketing role Mark. Having the fans onside is vital to your success in the role, as I know I have stated previously.
It would be good if you came on here Mark and posted from time to time on the issues that directly concern your input into the club such as this evening.
Judy and Whitters come on here to clear things up quite regularly (even public enemy no. 1, Albie Fox, has come on here to front his critics and explain things as he sees them - even if he is wrong ;D).
This is a good tool Mark to start to get yourself known by the fans, and you can explain issues so that we know where you are coming from on things.
I for one feel a lot better knowing that the club now realise it could have been marketed better and that they have erred. They are listening to us.
Trouble is there is still a lack of communication, and we need to be told you have heard us and that you do understand and hold your hands up when a mistake has been made, however genuine that error was.
Good luck with the evening Mark, hope it sells out. I don't think anyone has a problem with an executive night as such. Hopefully it is the first of many such events that corners that market. But please also remember the majority of fans - us the grass root fans - we have feelings and (human nature) remember snubs far longer than the good things done.
Good luck in your role Mark and, talk to us.
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Post by True_Shrew on Apr 22, 2004 12:51:41 GMT 1
The one thing that gets my goat up about STFC that they are CONSISTANLY apologising for things that they've done wrong and we the supporters have to swallow it.
I accept that everyone makes mistakes but when we had the meeting with Quinny and the board every second word was 'sorry' or 'in hindsight' and it's just not good enough STFC.
Buck your ideas up STFC and starting acting professional because the PR of this club is letting you down BIG TIME.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2004 13:32:56 GMT 1
Good post BVS
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Apr 22, 2004 14:16:09 GMT 1
I think a lot of what gets written on this board is frustration, and at times when the team doesnt do the buisness, we need a safety valve to let off steam. Unfortunately STFC have always provided the fans enough ammo to do this, by the way at times we get treated. Things as I keep saying are improving, not as fast as some would like,but there again I think we are all learning with things such as the Umbrella Group etc, how things work and how to get things done. Certain people will never be satisfied now matter what, but the way to move forward is communication and better communication between club and fanbase. If that continues then a lot of the things STFC does wrong now will go away. After the Andy Shaw thing I'm not navie enough not to worry about Colin Poole's involvement, but whilst keeping a close eye on things, lets see what the bloke can do. As usual though, STFC have started on the wrong foot, and got everybodies backs up, and so rather than starting from a good position, we are starting at a damage limitation level again!
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Apr 22, 2004 14:57:04 GMT 1
Excellent posts all-round lads...
I think the one thing that has always confused me (and I may be wrong here) but the club always seem to employ people who have never had experience with regards to the commercial side of the game of football. I think this has really let them down in the past and I believe it will do so again in the future...
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Post by Pilch on Apr 22, 2004 15:12:15 GMT 1
Are you Mad Mark Peters ?
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Apr 22, 2004 17:28:28 GMT 1
An internet messageboard will always have people saying stuff outrageous
just look at the shocking things said about Colin Bloomfield last week
I suggest anyone gets a thick skin fairly quickly as they will always be criticised if they are doing anything
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Post by Pricey Narked of with work on Apr 22, 2004 18:29:42 GMT 1
poor old col hes a god lad and one of the best on radio shropshire - and only young still - hes going a long way trust me All us Montford Bridgers do well you Know
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Post by The Shropshire Tenor on Apr 22, 2004 21:01:18 GMT 1
A tool used by professional marketeers is the consumer survey, the purpose being to gauge opinion or strength of feeling among customers before committing to a course of action.
A message board like this would be an ideal (and cheap) way of testing customer opinion and would have helped Mark to avoid the type of mistake made with regard to the 'Awards night'
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