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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 1, 2010 22:56:55 GMT 1
what i dont understand about picking A, is why people want what is essentially our traditional kit (or has been since the late 70's on and off in one form or another), one we have had before and presumably one we will go back to after this fan designed one. so once we have had a season or two of fan designed stripes, there will be a move away from the stripes again. that said, as i type, i am thinking that if people dont vote for the stripes, it could be taken to mean that supporters dont like them. There won't be a move back to the stripes afterwards: the club has chosen a blue and amber striped design once in a decade. One of the most popular kits on display on a matchday for the last 6-7 years has been a blue and amber striped shirt. Town kits have come and gone, but that one retro shirt still remains always the second most common shirt in the ground, after whatever the current home kit is. The most popular scarf in the ground far and away is the blue and amber striped scarf. This is not about choosing a one off shirt we will enjoy for a couple of years. This is a once in a decade opportunity to have a blue and amber striped shirt, so whatever the the limitations of the design (I agree I prefer wider stripes) I will vote for it. If we vote for design A I suggest you will still see people wearing it a decade later. I also suggest whever you wear it you will be instantly recognisable as a Shrewsbury fan rather than a fan of any other club in the 92 or even beyond, and that cannot be said of any of the other designs. Only by the slimmest of margins did we have blue and amber seats in the new stadium, but fairplay to the chairman, when he puts it out to vote he follows it through and allows what the fans ask for, which si very much to his credit.
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 0:24:41 GMT 1
what i dont understand about picking A, is why people want what is essentially our traditional kit (or has been since the late 70's on and off in one form or another), one we have had before and presumably one we will go back to after this fan designed one. so once we have had a season or two of fan designed stripes, there will be a move away from the stripes again. that said, as i type, i am thinking that if people dont vote for the stripes, it could be taken to mean that supporters dont like them. There won't be a move back to the stripes afterwards: the club has chosen a blue and amber striped design once in a decade. One of the most popular kits on display on a matchday for the last 6-7 years has been a blue and amber striped shirt. Town kits have come and gone, but that one retro shirt still remains always the second most common shirt in the ground, after whatever the current home kit is. The most popular scarf in the ground far and away is the blue and amber striped scarf. This is not about choosing a one off shirt we will enjoy for a couple of years. This is a once in a decade opportunity to have a blue and amber striped shirt, so whatever the the limitations of the design (I agree I prefer wider stripes) I will vote for it. If we vote for design A I suggest you will still see people wearing it a decade later. I also suggest whever you wear it you will be instantly recognisable as a Shrewsbury fan rather than a fan of any other club in the 92 or even beyond, and that cannot be said of any of the other designs. Only by the slimmest of margins did we have blue and amber seats in the new stadium, but fairplay to the chairman, when he puts it out to vote he follows it through and allows what the fans ask for, which si very much to his credit. i'm a bit confused, not sure i am putting my point across too well today was there a vote on the seats? i remember a meeting about the issue but dont remember a vote. i also hadnt heard we were only having the stripes once a decade although i am not sure that is what you meant. maybe you mean we have only had 1 striped shirt of any sort since the late 90s? on the point about the most popular shirt, that's my point, it's already established(in my mind at least, i have 2) as our traditional top, it's available and plenty of people already have them as you say. i suppose i am unsure why this is being done, if it's just a novelty, i dont think i want the stripes seen that way and would rather go for something for novelty value. if its about picking a shirt forever then i will have to go for A, but it isnt perfect.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 2, 2010 0:35:48 GMT 1
i'm a bit confused, not sure i am putting my point across too well today was there a vote on the seats? i remember a meeting about the issue but dont remember a vote. i also hadnt heard we were only having the stripes once a decade although i am not sure that is what you meant. maybe you mean we have only had 1 striped shirt of any sort since the late 90s? on the point about the most popular shirt, that's my point, it's already established(in my mind at least, i have 2) as our traditional top, it's available and plenty of people already have them as you say. i suppose i am unsure why this is being done, if it's just a novelty, i dont think i want the stripes seen that way and would rather go for something for novelty value. if its about picking a shirt forever then i will have to go for A, but it isnt perfect. At that meeting we had a vote and the chairman respected the result. Since 1982 we have had two blue and amber striped kits (actually, it was yellow 91-92, but there you go), 91-92 and 99-01. So in 28 years we have had it twice, I think we are due a third. It is not about novelty and it is not about picking a shirt forever, it is just it would be nice to have a blue and amber striped shirt.
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 0:58:16 GMT 1
i'm a bit confused, not sure i am putting my point across too well today was there a vote on the seats? i remember a meeting about the issue but dont remember a vote. i also hadnt heard we were only having the stripes once a decade although i am not sure that is what you meant. maybe you mean we have only had 1 striped shirt of any sort since the late 90s? on the point about the most popular shirt, that's my point, it's already established(in my mind at least, i have 2) as our traditional top, it's available and plenty of people already have them as you say. i suppose i am unsure why this is being done, if it's just a novelty, i dont think i want the stripes seen that way and would rather go for something for novelty value. if its about picking a shirt forever then i will have to go for A, but it isnt perfect. At that meeting we had a vote and the chairman respected the result. Since 1982 we have had two blue and amber striped kits (actually, it was yellow 91-92, but there you go), 91-92 and 99-01. So in 28 years we have had it twice, I think we are due a third. It is not about novelty and it is not about picking a shirt forever, it is just it would be nice to have a blue and amber striped shirt. and people voted for white? i can remember voting on a couple of issues(although i think i abstained on at least one of them). i see where you are going now. although i would also include the 05 shrews collection as a striped shirt too, and if we went for 30 years instead of the 28, it would be 5. also, the shrews collection one lasted for 2 years and so did the 99-01. so out of 30 years we have had 9 years worth of blue and amber stripes since 1980 (11 years if you go back 2 more years, and you could consider 01-03 and 08-2010 stripes of sorts, albeit, minimal ones, and the rmw one had a stripe down a predominantly blue shirt, but they are pushing it.). either way, i dont think this will be the last time we see blue and amber stripes on our shirts. so i will go for something different and go for B
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 2, 2010 1:21:31 GMT 1
i see where you are going now. although i would also include the 05 shrews collection as a striped shirt too, and if we went for 30 years instead of the 28, it would be 5. If we pretended every shirt was blue and amber stripes then we have had one every year. We have had a stripe, or the body, or little flashes of amber, but they were not made famous by This is Spinal Tap. We have had two in 28, so probably time for another whirl Everyone gets their vote. That is my reason for mine. I am 31 years old and started watching Salop when I was 5, in 1984. I have only seen two blue and amber striped kits out of the 18 we have had since I started watching Shrewsbury. I wear a blue and amber striped shirt to every game, but would quite like to see the team in one, and would quite like one to play football in one myself.
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 1:54:02 GMT 1
i see where you are going now. although i would also include the 05 shrews collection as a striped shirt too, and if we went for 30 years instead of the 28, it would be 5. If we pretended every shirt was blue and amber stripes then we have had one every year. We have had a stripe, or the body, or little flashes of amber, but they were not made famous by This is Spinal Tap. We have had two in 28, so probably time for another whirl Everyone gets their vote. That is my reason for mine. I am 31 years old and started watching Salop when I was 5, in 1984. I have only seen two blue and amber striped kits out of the 18 we have had since I started watching Shrewsbury. I wear a blue and amber striped shirt to every game, but would quite like to see the team in one, and would quite like one to play football in one myself. its just that 28 years seemed an odd number to pick, it's the year after we had 4 striped shirts in a row and we only had 19 shirts in that time so its an arguable 2 in 19 if we changed shirts every year it would be comparable
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Dec 2, 2010 9:29:58 GMT 1
its just that 28 years seemed an odd number to pick, it's the year after we had 4 striped shirts in a row and we only had 19 shirts in that time so its an arguable 2 in 19 if we changed shirts every year it would be comparable Not sure why you're being so pedantic about it. You are not making a point yourself. You questioned my thinking, I explained, now you're questioning my sample size. As I said, I have been watching us since 1984. Hence I started at the kits I first remember, the Link 51 one I still own (83-85). We had 4 striped shirts in a row during our hey day, which many people remember fondly, me included, but only through other people's memories. The 1 year - 2 year thing makes no difference. Since I have been watching Shrewsbury 3 seasons out of, 28 have had a blue and amber striped kit and one season in the last ten 2000-01. I think we are due another one. That said, all of us will go with the majority.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2010 9:38:38 GMT 1
I'm voting for blue and amber stripes because A) I like the design and B) The club needs a true, unique identity.
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Post by SY3 on Dec 2, 2010 10:26:54 GMT 1
Has the actual colour of 'amber' been abolished? Every time i look at the designs they seem to appear more yellow.
We truly would have an identity if finally we could amber instead of yellow on the kits. When i say amber i mean the colour on the spinal tap toffs shirt.
We've already had a blue and yellow striped kit in the past - i will be crestfallen if the new kit is pretty much the same.
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 13:26:36 GMT 1
its just that 28 years seemed an odd number to pick, it's the year after we had 4 striped shirts in a row and we only had 19 shirts in that time so its an arguable 2 in 19 if we changed shirts every year it would be comparable Not sure why you're being so pedantic about it. You are not making a point yourself. You questioned my thinking, I explained, now you're questioning my sample size. As I said, I have been watching us since 1984. Hence I started at the kits I first remember, the Link 51 one I still own (83-85). We had 4 striped shirts in a row during our hey day, which many people remember fondly, me included, but only through other people's memories. The 1 year - 2 year thing makes no difference. Since I have been watching Shrewsbury 3 seasons out of, 28 have had a blue and amber striped kit and one season in the last ten 2000-01. I think we are due another one. That said, all of us will go with the majority. it started with a genuine enquiry about the purpose of this and what people wanted but i ended up enjoying myself with a bit of debate, thought you were the same p.s. the shrews collection was definately blue and amber stripes
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2010 13:35:10 GMT 1
Not sure why you're being so pedantic about it. You are not making a point yourself. You questioned my thinking, I explained, now you're questioning my sample size. As I said, I have been watching us since 1984. Hence I started at the kits I first remember, the Link 51 one I still own (83-85). We had 4 striped shirts in a row during our hey day, which many people remember fondly, me included, but only through other people's memories. The 1 year - 2 year thing makes no difference. Since I have been watching Shrewsbury 3 seasons out of, 28 have had a blue and amber striped kit and one season in the last ten 2000-01. I think we are due another one. That said, all of us will go with the majority. it started with a genuine enquiry about the purpose of this and what people wanted but i ended up enjoying myself with a bit of debate, thought you were the same p.s. the shrews collection was definately blue and amber stripes It was actually 1 big yellow stripe on a blue background!
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Post by ShrewsburySTFC on Dec 2, 2010 14:11:08 GMT 1
I don't get what the big deal is with A. It looks rank and I'm sure the players won't find it appealing running out in that kit, just to please a few fans who are still living in the past.
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 14:14:01 GMT 1
it started with a genuine enquiry about the purpose of this and what people wanted but i ended up enjoying myself with a bit of debate, thought you were the same p.s. the shrews collection was definately blue and amber stripes It was actually 1 big yellow stripe on a blue background! yes, with the important word being stripe, it isnt actually that different to the 99-01 shirt, the difference being that there are still 2 blue stripes, but the amber ones have been moved to the centre to create a nice amber central stripe. the sleeves ane both blue, as are the shorts. it wasnt yellow either, check it out here. there is a yellow one to compare with Link------> TEXT TO DISPLAY
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Post by The Black Fingernail on Dec 2, 2010 14:29:12 GMT 1
A: i like but it has too many stripes and i dont like the back. bit predictable B:I like very much, distinctive , slightly different, maybe a look back to the 70's/80's. didnt palace have a diagonal stripe? i would definately go for this if the stripe was also on the back. C: too much white for me, looks a little american? D: I like but isnt it a bit of a rip of the Bristol rovers thing?E:Meh F:Meh, but more so. probably b for me Looking at these links, we were wearing their quartered kit before them ..... www.historicalkits.co.uk/Bristol_Rovers/Bristol_Rovers.htmwww.historicalkits.co.uk/Shrewsbury_Town/Shrewsbury_Town.htmD for me please
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Post by simianus on Dec 2, 2010 14:48:36 GMT 1
A: i like but it has too many stripes and i dont like the back. bit predictable B:I like very much, distinctive , slightly different, maybe a look back to the 70's/80's. didnt palace have a diagonal stripe? i would definately go for this if the stripe was also on the back. C: too much white for me, looks a little american? D: I like but isnt it a bit of a rip of the Bristol rovers thing?E:Meh F:Meh, but more so. probably b for me Looking at these links, we were wearing their quartered kit before them ..... www.historicalkits.co.uk/Bristol_Rovers/Bristol_Rovers.htmwww.historicalkits.co.uk/Shrewsbury_Town/Shrewsbury_Town.htmD for me please didnt know that, thanks. i think generally though, people associate the quarters with Rovers, regardless of the history. same with our colours, people, myself included, like amber regardless of the fact that we have played in blue and white for the majority of our history.
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Post by ercallshrew on Dec 2, 2010 22:41:03 GMT 1
it must be just me that feels the final six designs are some what disapointing, the clamour for the stripes is a bit nostalgic and if it looked more like the 78-82 version i might agree but the one in the final six is def not my cup of tea..dont know at the mo if i could see myself buying any of them which im really sad about as i had hoped for a lot more......yes i did enter a design myself which was along the lines of the wigan kit in blue and amber.........still good luck to all of them ......if i had to pick one it woulbl prob be F)........
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2010 23:15:22 GMT 1
Anyone that votes for a kit other than option A is mentally ill.
Regards DrCrippen
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Post by SeanBroseley on Dec 3, 2010 0:40:38 GMT 1
Kit A has changed and is now more tempting.
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Post by scooter on Dec 3, 2010 1:21:23 GMT 1
Kit A stripes look far too narrow - don't these people look back at previous kits
I think the quarters might just be preferable, or I might abstain
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Dec 3, 2010 1:35:48 GMT 1
Kit D for me definitely.
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Post by shrew54 on Dec 3, 2010 9:23:44 GMT 1
FWIW I have always preferred predominantly blue kits although the striped shirt is an exception, as I feel that is STFC's main colour, amber only came in in the late 60's.
I don't like B,C or D, E is OK.
A is going to be popular as it's similar to the '79 promotion shirt, but F will probably get my vote, always liked that kit in the 80's ( I remember the cup wins)
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Post by Dan F on Dec 3, 2010 9:43:50 GMT 1
Anyone that votes for a kit other than option A is mentally ill. Regards DrCrippen Quite right. I know which one I voted for... kit wibble.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Dec 3, 2010 9:49:06 GMT 1
Kit A stripes look far too narrow - don't these people look back at previous kits Does say the finer details are still be finalised once the winner is selected. Maybe thats something that would come out of that...
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Post by shrew54 on Dec 3, 2010 10:37:13 GMT 1
Anyone that votes for a kit other than option A is mentally ill. Regards DrCrippen Stupid statement, everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether you agree with it or not
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