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Post by mrbunny on Oct 6, 2010 7:33:52 GMT 1
To another American.Owner of Boston Red Sox.
Will this make the fans happy? Could be out of the frying pan into the fire.
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Post by Stewie Shrew on Oct 6, 2010 8:00:45 GMT 1
That maybe the case, but I doubt they can be any worse than the pair of muppets in charge of the place at present
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Post by Amsterdammer on Oct 6, 2010 8:07:10 GMT 1
The critical thing for Liverpool fans to look out for is how it will be funding. It could be swapping RBS for another bank with big debt and heavy interest payments.
RBS will do anything to get the money back before the value of the club goes below the amount they are owed.
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Oct 6, 2010 8:10:25 GMT 1
from what radio 5 are saying, it's the board that's sold the club not the owners. So now it's a long court case to see if they could sell it.
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Post by Minor on Oct 6, 2010 8:16:35 GMT 1
And RBS are due their money on the 15th October
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Post by theriverside on Oct 6, 2010 8:21:28 GMT 1
Standby for all the scouse fans on facebook posting an update about how they are going to 'win the lot' now
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 6, 2010 8:56:19 GMT 1
Having a look at the newspapers yesterday and one are two are already suggesting Woy is on borrowed time, Dalglish waiting in the wings, perhaps they should have gone with Dalglish from the off etc etc…
But the one thing that really struck me was the comments from Liverpool fans in response. It can’t understand why many keep pointing to their illustrious past, most successful football club in England and all that malarkey. Now granted that’s something to be proud of but I really do struggle to understand what that has to do with the current state and ‘plight’ of the club. Moreso when you start looking at the newspapers this morning reporting on the turmoil behind the scenes. I don’t think anyone could argue that it’s not been the best of starts for the club but you do wonder what they are expecting from the season all things considered. Until things are settled off the pitch they need to just to sit back and wait, wait until the ownership is settled once and for all and the club can get back some stability. Perhaps then they can look to a top four finish again. But at the minute I don’t think I can see anything other than a mid table finish and I think some of their supporters need to get real and understand that…
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Post by Minor on Oct 6, 2010 9:10:40 GMT 1
Standby for all the scouse fans on facebook posting an update about how they are going to 'win the lot' now Its a very long way from any sort of 'done' deal.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Oct 6, 2010 10:13:48 GMT 1
Very well said Stuttgartershrew. I think a large number of them seem to live in cloud cuckoo land and think that somehow their past success entitles them to extra points in the league. Sorry it doesn't.
And from what i've read this morning, the 3 man board (broughton, ayre and purslow) have accepted the bid, but the 2 owners refute that it's in 'liverpool's best interest' and are trying to reject it and also sack the other 3. Even more strangely my mate sent me an interview that broughton had done in which he said he didn't have a contract, so how that's going to work out i don't know.
Don't feel i'd be welcoming another set of americans in charge if i was one of them.
Far from over me thinks.
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Post by Fingers on Oct 6, 2010 14:11:39 GMT 1
I think people are referring to the history of the club and its past success as that is what defines Liverpool. Don't forget Bradford harp on about this every season they are in tier 4. Granted it means absolutely nothing in terms of extra points in the league etc but to a potential investor it could be seen as a carrot or alternatively put investment off.
If you had x million in the bank and wanted to buy a team, would you rather resurrect a previous giant or start off lower down the leagues and create a legacy entering into unchartered waters?
Ideally the purchasor is someone from the local community who understands the area, the club and its fans but this is not always the case. See Ashley at Newcastle and the alienation that spread flamed by the fact he wasn't from Newcastle.
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Post by Tux on Oct 6, 2010 14:16:33 GMT 1
They have done a fantastic job with the boston red socks and have really turned them around. Have stated they can wipe out the debt and provide substantial transfer funds to.
The deal is as good as done. Broughton has stated he is extremely confident it will go through and that in the end the 2 cancers will be unable to stop it. RBS are the ones with the real say at the moment.
Even if it does get messy and the club temporarily ends up in administration while the whole thing is happening the Premier league has vowed not to take points as that only happens to clubs that not capable of operating financially for the duration of the season. Liverpool can.
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Oct 6, 2010 14:27:14 GMT 1
If you had x million in the bank and wanted to buy a team, would you rather resurrect a previous giant or start off lower down the leagues and create a legacy entering into unchartered waters? Think the Notts county shambles shows why starting lower down does not always end well (although thats a complext case as an example)
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Post by Pilch on Oct 6, 2010 14:27:18 GMT 1
i wish them all the best and hope the go places the championship for starters
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Post by ratcliffesghost on Oct 6, 2010 14:34:47 GMT 1
Have Man Utd repaid this years £70m interest repayment yet
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Post by El Huracán!!!! on Oct 6, 2010 14:36:08 GMT 1
As for the sale, some security and an end to the ownership crisis will hopefully do one thing, reunite a fractured club/fans/playing and manageing staff... some security at the top might take that 10% extra pressure of players who have shown over the years they can play well.
That alone will help.
After that its a long way back for Liverpool, but certinly not out of the question they could be back in amongst the "big 6" as im sure it will be from now on with City and Spurs lapping up CL football of any of the other 4 who have a poor season...
Going to need a couple of big names coming in to comfort the the good players they have now, and a final decent clear out of the dross thats left. Saldy Liverpool could not do that this summer with everything going on, as the squad would have been even more threadbare!
The way the league is at the moment you would not bet against United or Arsenal joining Liverpool in looking up at the top table if Spurs and City have a good season?
I think football at the top of the Prem outside of Chelsea is in for a major shakeup over the next few years, it seems the original big four have lost there aura with liverpool in freefall, United uncharetristially sloppy and also not playing great, and Arsenal now beatable by bulliing them out of the game the likes of City and Spurs can take advantage and really mix the prem up a bit, which is no bad thing.
United fans may laugh, but Liverpool, should this deal come off are just about out of the fire debt wise for the time being... there is nothing to say should there team miss out on the Cl money that the same could be happening there in 2 years time, and this in a climate when its going to be harder and harder to clinch that top four place.
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Post by Fingers on Oct 6, 2010 15:06:57 GMT 1
If you had x million in the bank and wanted to buy a team, would you rather resurrect a previous giant or start off lower down the leagues and create a legacy entering into unchartered waters? Think the Notts county shambles shows why starting lower down does not always end well (although thats a complext case as an example) Having the finance in place helps!!! Look at Reading, Wigan, Hull and Doncaster Rovers further afirle dyou have Hoffenheim.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 6, 2010 16:30:26 GMT 1
Think the Notts county shambles shows why starting lower down does not always end well (although thats a complext case as an example) Having the finance in place helps!!! Look at Reading, Wigan, Hull and Doncaster Rovers further afirle dyou have Hoffenheim. Pretty sure though that most of them were taken over by local lads done well or? Defo Wigan, Donny and Hoffenheim. Labour of love for the owners. That was the reason they bought those clubs. Not sure about Reading and Hull though...
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Oct 6, 2010 16:32:52 GMT 1
I think people are referring to the history of the club and its past success as that is what defines Liverpool. Don't forget Bradford harp on about this every season they are in tier 4. Granted it means absolutely nothing in terms of extra points in the league etc but to a potential investor it could be seen as a carrot or alternatively put investment off. If you had x million in the bank and wanted to buy a team, would you rather resurrect a previous giant or start off lower down the leagues and create a legacy entering into unchartered waters? Ideally the purchasor is someone from the local community who understands the area, the club and its fans but this is not always the case. See Ashley at Newcastle and the alienation that spread flamed by the fact he wasn't from Newcastle. No... they were making comment about this whilst discussing their current position in the league, results, players and manager. They really do need to wake up, no amount of history gives you a devine right to 3 points on a saturday. Really do think some of them need to get real and look to the situation there club is in before having a pop at the manager and expectations for the season...
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Post by Fingers on Oct 6, 2010 18:24:54 GMT 1
For sure. There are always a few people who believe the club should be higher or in a better position - a few of these type of fans are on this board!!
The vast majority appreciate the position. Roy needs time and the chance to rip everything up and start again.
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Post by theriverside on Oct 6, 2010 18:34:19 GMT 1
Standby for all the scouse fans on facebook posting an update about how they are going to 'win the lot' now Its a very long way from any sort of 'done' deal. Didn't stop them the last time did it? There were plenty of soiled undercrackers on Merseyside around the time of the 'Chinese Billions' that were going to be invested and bring them world domination...................
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 6, 2010 19:10:37 GMT 1
Any move that will force the 2 t**ts out can't be a bad thing
Broughton, Ayres and Purslow have gone up in my estimation. There have bee times when you couldn't be sure whose side they were on, but now we know for certain
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Post by Dale on Oct 6, 2010 20:48:16 GMT 1
That maybe the case, but I doubt they can be any worse than the pair of muppets in charge of the place at present I'm sure Chester fans thought the same when Stephen Vaughan 'rescued' their club from Terry Smith!
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Post by theriverside on Oct 7, 2010 9:15:08 GMT 1
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Post by mrbunny on Oct 10, 2010 9:49:36 GMT 1
Could be all off if they go into administration in court this week.In a way i hope they do as it will put to bed all the one rule for them and one for us that fans think but being honest you never want to see any club go into administration and have points deducted.
I just hope they don't get special treatment as they are a big club.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2010 15:20:09 GMT 1
Not related to the sale but this season has finally broken the myth about how wonderful the Liverpool fans are, how they never turn on the team and always support the manager.
They are no better (or worse) than any other football fan
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Post by jamo on Oct 10, 2010 19:29:53 GMT 1
Not related to the sale but this season has finally broken the myth about how wonderful the Liverpool fans are, how they never turn on the team and always support the manager. They are no better (or worse) than any other football fan Amen to that brother. The predominant reason why I despise that football club with out exception. The fans there are, and have been, for 3 decades at least the most arrogant, self promoting bunch of t*****s within english football. Aided and abetted it has to be said by a media that fuels and supports the huge myth that Liverpool fans know the game better than everyone else, how fair they are and how they encapsulated the true spirit of english footbal fans. No shock to anyone on here but I despise them with a passion and hope the whole arrogant s**tload of them crash and burn and that they all end up in the Championship. It won't happen of course but we can all dream.
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Post by Fingers on Oct 10, 2010 19:51:04 GMT 1
Not related to the sale but this season has finally broken the myth about how wonderful the Liverpool fans are, how they never turn on the team and always support the manager. They are no better (or worse) than any other football fan Amen to that brother. The predominant reason why I despise that football club with out exception. The fans there are, and have been, for 3 decades at least the most arrogant, self promoting bunch of t*****s within english football. Aided and abetted it has to be said by a media that fuels and supports the huge myth that Liverpool fans know the game better than everyone else, how fair they are and how they encapsulated the true spirit of english footbal fans. No shock to anyone on here but I despise them with a passion and hope the whole arrogant s**tload of them crash and burn and that they all end up in the Championship. It won't happen of course but we can all dream. Top quality post that Jamo, don't let the hate consume you.
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Post by Pilch on Oct 10, 2010 19:59:13 GMT 1
why stop the dream short jamo i hope they get relegated 4 years running
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Post by jamo on Oct 10, 2010 21:13:10 GMT 1
[/img][/quote] It doesn;t consume me at all, much more important things in life. That doesn't mean though that i would ever pass up the opportunity to gloat at those arrogants twits misfortune.
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Post by Feedo Gnasher on Oct 10, 2010 21:21:36 GMT 1
If you ever actually speak to any Liverpool fans you will find that they are knowledgeable and passionate like the rest of us, they don't have any sort of arrogance just a strong pride and value of their history and tradition.
Liverpool fans will be going through agony at the moment, as the situation is quite frankly a mess, and think how you would personally be feeling if the same thing was happening to the club you love and one which consumes a large part of your life
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