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Post by shrewswolf on Oct 8, 2010 15:51:23 GMT 1
I would welcome him here. Lets face it some games even Harrold hasnt been working, with decisions going against him being the main fault, to have someone like Zola waiting to step in will only improve the squad. Pace and power in league two is a lethal weapon and he has both.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Oct 8, 2010 16:24:31 GMT 1
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Post by africanshrew on Oct 8, 2010 16:40:52 GMT 1
Crewe or Zola seem to be making a right meal of this, its only a month's loan to a club down the road, why the Ronaldo to Madrid type updates from Crewe? Reckon they're playing silly beggers to get a loan fee or Zola is the world's most indecisive footballer. All a bit of a drama for a month-long loan.
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Post by saladsaladsalad on Oct 8, 2010 17:24:09 GMT 1
Do you need more than 2 strikers to win promotion? Almost certainly. Who are our extra strikers? Bradshaw - inexperienced, be wrong to expect too much from him. Bright - has generally struggled to make an impact and now often injured. Elder - still to return from long term injury. It's not a question of warming anyone's bench, it's a matter of having a strong enough squad. We've only played 10 games - what happens if one of the front two gets a bad knock? Assuming a deal can be agreed, it'd be a mistake not to do it. I'd agree if it was a season long loan being offered, however as its only a month the chances of an injury happening arent high and Zola will know that and be unwilling to swap one bench for another. Of course from STFC's viewpoint it would still make sense but the player has to be willing too.
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Post by ipswichshrews on Oct 8, 2010 17:58:03 GMT 1
A good signing I think because of his record at this level.
However, if it is only a month, the club need to make sure we are getting value for money, because out of the next month's amount of fixtures, Zola would probably be not allowed to play in the Crewe game on the 2nd November and also possibly unable to play in the 1st round of the cup which is the 6th November to aviod being cup tied.
Therefore after tomorrow we would be loaning a player who could only feature in 3 games.
So it may make more sense to have Zola until the end of December?
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Post by glasgowshrew on Oct 8, 2010 17:59:36 GMT 1
i am guessing back up is needed soon since MH must be close to a suspension / due a red card
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Post by venceremos on Oct 8, 2010 18:24:49 GMT 1
Do you need more than 2 strikers to win promotion? Almost certainly. Who are our extra strikers? Bradshaw - inexperienced, be wrong to expect too much from him. Bright - has generally struggled to make an impact and now often injured. Elder - still to return from long term injury. It's not a question of warming anyone's bench, it's a matter of having a strong enough squad. We've only played 10 games - what happens if one of the front two gets a bad knock? Assuming a deal can be agreed, it'd be a mistake not to do it. I'd agree if it was a season long loan being offered, however as its only a month the chances of an injury happening arent high and Zola will know that and be unwilling to swap one bench for another. Of course from STFC's viewpoint it would still make sense but the player has to be willing too. It might be an initial month but, realistically, I'd have thought we must be looking at extending that if all goes well. Think of Holden at Rotherham. Zola's out of contract next summer, so he'll have an eye on a new deal somewhere and I'd be surprised if we weren't thinking of that too. It's not as if we're desperate for a short-term signing. We can hardly accuse Zola of indecision when we don't know what he's being offered or whether he's better off staying put. He's turned down 3 other clubs already which suggests to me he's actually been quite decisive. The story only broke earlier this week and our interest later than that. Hardly a Ronaldo/Robinho/Mascherano etc etc wil he/won't he saga.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2010 19:43:34 GMT 1
On the face of it a strange signing as we have a seemingly settled strike partnership.
However at the start of the season Turner said he wouldnt be afraid to bring in other players, simply to provide more competition and so players cant fall in the comfort zone.
Id take it that he perhaps thinks he cant rely on Bright because of his injury record and its too much to expect Bradshaw to be our plan B
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Post by Myddleshrew on Oct 8, 2010 23:43:00 GMT 1
From what I hear from a Crewe fan is that he'll join us next week on loan till Januray and they he'll sign permently on Jan 1st for 100k.
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Post by PeterBroadbent on Oct 9, 2010 0:42:24 GMT 1
Hope he is £10K better than our £90K hot shot with another 1 year 10 months on his contract? Think we have thus far paid 30K for two goals?
Am sure a loan opening at Stockport will emerge?
Harrold a total breath of fresh air, great control, wins much / most in the air - 100% better than Hibbo so far, and 800% better than Wombles loanee.
Is Zola any good? Why is leaving?
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Post by shrewd67 on Oct 9, 2010 8:48:41 GMT 1
Dependant on his form this is potentially a very good move by GT for a number of reasons:
Harrold has had a great start with us but he is likely to be suspended before long as he does pick up yellow cards due to his committed approach.
It is unlikely that Harrold will go the season without picking up an injury again due to the wholehearted way he plays.
Zola has scored goals at this level, 18 last season I believe. He also had a reasonable goalscoring record at Tranmere I recall.
Zola, like Harrold, is a right handful. Big strong, not sure how pacey he is though.
This move gives us other option. We could play 2 big men up front, cover for Harrold, partner for Bradshaw and if we need to go a bit more direct we can.
We would then have 4 decent strikers who between them should be more than capable of getting us out of League 2.
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Post by rowleylegend on Oct 9, 2010 13:17:31 GMT 1
Zola's proven goalscoring record is quite decent. Looking forward to the chap hopefully signing because i remember few seasons ago he was one of Tranmere's best players.
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Post by bradley on Oct 9, 2010 13:50:58 GMT 1
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Post by theyesman on Oct 9, 2010 14:33:56 GMT 1
Not in the Crewe squad today.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2010 16:50:03 GMT 1
Maybe not ZOLA but NICKY FEATHERSTONE ( Midfielder) HULL CITY could well be signing this week on loan.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Oct 9, 2010 16:57:14 GMT 1
Maybe not ZOLA but NICKY FEATHERSTONE ( Midfielder) HULL CITY could well be signing this week on loan. Didn't set Grimsby Town alight with his efforts whilst on loan there last season.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Oct 9, 2010 17:34:52 GMT 1
GT says that Zola doesn't want to go anywhere on loan.
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Post by theyesman on Oct 9, 2010 19:54:06 GMT 1
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Post by mrbunny on Oct 9, 2010 20:11:18 GMT 1
Maybe not ZOLA but NICKY FEATHERSTONE ( Midfielder) HULL CITY could well be signing this week on loan. Didn't set Grimsby Town alight with his efforts whilst on loan there last season. To be fair they were a poor side and it was difficult to look good for them.Then again they still did against us.
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Post by hooverfoxhat on Oct 9, 2010 20:42:57 GMT 1
I, for one will be reasonably happy if he stays at Gresty Road, I don't think he's half the player some do, yet to see him have a standout game against us and my Crewe supporting friend doesn't have much in the way of compliments for him.
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Post by bertymax on Oct 9, 2010 21:24:19 GMT 1
Calvin Zola? It needs to be Gianfranco the way were playing at the mo, even at the age of 40 or whatever he is, he's still probably got more creativity than the midfield at the mo. 10 shots on target over last 3 games just aint good enough.
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Post by Lord Ha Ha on Oct 9, 2010 22:03:20 GMT 1
A Crewe supporting friend of mine says he would be glad to see the back of him. Apparently he only got 12 last season and in my mates words needed 361 chances to get them. Another Elder. Leave him at Crewe.
Bradshaw has got a better scoring ratio so lets give him a chance instead of wasting money on another dud.
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Post by shrewd67 on Oct 9, 2010 22:13:22 GMT 1
A Crewe supporting friend of mine says he would be glad to see the back of him. Apparently he only got 12 last season and in my mates words needed 361 chances to get them. Another Elder. Leave him at Crewe. Bradshaw has got a better scoring ratio so lets give him a chance instead of wasting money on another dud. He actually got 18 goals last season, far more than Elder ever scored in a season. It's the type of players he is that may compliment our squad at the moment. You should also bear in mind that your mate is going to be pretty negative about a player who is actively seeking a move elsewhere. Don't read too much into his comments.
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Post by Lord Ha Ha on Oct 9, 2010 22:35:25 GMT 1
Granted he did say O'donnell was poor and he rates Artell.
On that forecast Zola could be the next Drogba.
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Post by pvfc61 on Oct 10, 2010 21:10:52 GMT 1
He wanted to come to us but Adam's chuffed him off, we take SOME crWHO rejects but just the good uns like Roberts........ You'll remember him?
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Post by Dale on Oct 10, 2010 21:45:53 GMT 1
So Calvin Zola cant even get in the Crewe squad these days, but wants a pay rise to whichever club he joins? Three words come to mind, land, cloud, cuckoo! Hope GT told him to naff off.
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Post by Bordershrew on Oct 10, 2010 22:30:13 GMT 1
He wanted to come to us but Adam's chuffed him off, we take SOME crWHO rejects but just the good uns like Roberts........ You'll remember him? Are you still on about the Burslum cup final? .... Was that your last win or something? .... Oh yes it was wasn't it! How was the pitch at Oxford I saw the usual 'Vile fans jump over the hoardings trick' .... Epic Fail
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Post by shrewblue on Oct 11, 2010 8:39:01 GMT 1
I think the message from Turners statement " Zola does not want to go on loan" was in what he didnt say........ in that Zola would be happy to come but only permanently...this of course would revolve around a LOAN until Jan then a permanent signing based on a pre-signed contract...
The sticking point may well have been his salary demands and/or his requirement of a permanent move...make your own mind up but the deal may not be dead as yet...its clear Crewe have given up on him and that because of his family if Zola moves he does not want to move far ala him turning down moves to Southend and Bradford.
GT's position has probably been made clear to him that if he comes on loan and performs, he will earn himself a permanent move and the salary is negotiable.......all conjecture, time will tell.
One thing is for sure a back up striker and more importantly a driving creative central midfielder would give our season a kick start and freshen up the dressing room!
I also rather suspect we will be adding a new centre back in Jan if not on loan before then!
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Post by Hatfieldshrew on Oct 11, 2010 12:15:37 GMT 1
Said no according to the BBC Link------> Zola
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Post by Rusholme Ruffian on Oct 12, 2010 0:28:18 GMT 1
oh well. move on. Seems like a potential upsetter, which i do not want to see.
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