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Post by Jonah on Aug 15, 2010 21:41:51 GMT 1
Sorry Scooter Watch it again then Dancin I have, and if that's two footed? Yep right in front of the Ref Pathetic challenge Ref pathetic challenge
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Post by monkee on Aug 15, 2010 21:55:06 GMT 1
[/img] Why is that cheating? Got him self sent off! Total **** [/quote] I wouldn't say it was two footed? Faking injury is cheating, goes off by stretcher and then comes on for the 2nd half?[/quote] that makes no sense, it is well within the realms of possibility that he had a little treatment , or waited for it to stop hurting , then come back on.he his standing foot away, a real forwards wreckless challenge. at best it was a yellow, but quite a dangerous thing to do and a damn site fairer than the sending off at the end of the game, that was just plain stupid.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 15, 2010 22:43:18 GMT 1
cracking goal by reine, if at first you dont succeed, try try again brucie would be so proud of that
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Post by Optimistic Shrew on Aug 15, 2010 22:58:00 GMT 1
Yep, great last gasp 90th minute goal by Reina. I think both red cards were fair, whoever said that the ref should have thought about it more because he isn't a dirty player is talking tosh. Why would he be more lenient towards him? By the letter of the law its a red card and that is that, 3 match ban as well. But how come Konscienly or whatever his name is gets a second booking for his handball but N'gog didn't? Good finish by him but Almunia really is pants to be fair.
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Post by elderstatesman on Aug 15, 2010 22:59:01 GMT 1
The referee makes his decision in realtime and Joe Coles tackle looked reckless and dangerous but when replayed have a look at his trailing leg it doesn,t leave the floor at all.1st half Wiltshire made a tackle on Mascherano that as Andy Gray pointed out had it been the other way round Mascherano due to reputation would probably have been sent off.The Arsenal players reaction to being tackled is ridiculous, if you watch their games they surround the referee after every foul.Last season Gallas made a horrendous challenge on a Bolton player and walked away scotfree. Quite honestly the premier league holds no interest for me due to the diving,posing and selfindulgence,I only watched todays game as the Grandsons were round.Give me real football,LGE 1&2 every time.
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Post by shrew4life on Aug 15, 2010 23:05:37 GMT 1
Gonna have to agree with Dancin on this one. Very harsh decison in my opinion it wasn't 2 footed, one foot was high but that was in an attempt to block the ball.
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Post by elderstatesman on Aug 15, 2010 23:18:09 GMT 1
To add to my earlier post the games we watch at the lower level are contested on the whole by good honest players who give their all.Arsenal as good as their passing is have a holier than thou attitude supported by the manager.If you look back over Wengers reign their disciplinary record is atrocious.The thing I find most annoying that football is a contact sport yet the foreigners in our game react to most tackles as if they have been poleaxed and that ia a fact.
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Post by jamo on Aug 15, 2010 23:23:50 GMT 1
Gerrad should have gone for two bookings.
How the hell he escaped a caution for that horrendous tackle in the first half i'll never know. Season after season the same old Anfield decisions.
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Post by elderstatesman on Aug 15, 2010 23:31:07 GMT 1
Gerrad should have gone for two bookings. How the hell he escaped a caution for that horrendous tackle in the first half i'll never know. Season after season the same old Anfield decisions. Probably right,but then explain to me how Wiltshire was not sent off and then Rosicky for his lunge on Gerrard and Cole was sent off so I don't think the ref let the venue affect his decisions I just don't think he was up to the job.
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Post by blood red shrews on Aug 15, 2010 23:33:57 GMT 1
To add to my earlier post the games we watch at the lower level are contested on the whole by good honest players who give their all.Arsenal as good as their passing is have a holier than thou attitude supported by the manager.If you look back over Wengers reign their disciplinary record is atrocious.The thing I find most annoying that football is a contact sport yet the foreigners in our game react to most tackles as if they have been poleaxed and that ia a fact. Think thats a bit unfair on alot of honest foreign hardworking players in our leagues as English players are just as guilty of over reacting and diving.
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Post by elderstatesman on Aug 16, 2010 0:02:01 GMT 1
To add to my earlier post the games we watch at the lower level are contested on the whole by good honest players who give their all.Arsenal as good as their passing is have a holier than thou attitude supported by the manager.If you look back over Wengers reign their disciplinary record is atrocious.The thing I find most annoying that football is a contact sport yet the foreigners in our game react to most tackles as if they have been poleaxed and that ia a fact. Think thats a bit unfair on alot of honest foreign hardworking players in our leagues as English players are just as guilty of over reacting and diving. Sorry have to disagree here you don't see Giggs, Scholes,Carragher,Lampard,Zamora,Bellamy etc rolling around the floor trying to get fellow pros sent off unlike Droga,Torres,Adebayour,Van Persie,Anelka and nine times out of ten it is an import waving the imaginary card.
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Post by blue4u on Aug 16, 2010 0:10:57 GMT 1
I think if you asked a lot of real fans they would say that they find the behaviour of the premier league unacceptable.I don't watch it much now, and prefer the lower leagues as the players live in our world.Leave the big boys to it and eventually they will destroy themselves and quite honestly who cares.Let'sconcentrate on the Shrews and our future.
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Post by blood red shrews on Aug 16, 2010 0:14:28 GMT 1
Think thats a bit unfair on alot of honest foreign hardworking players in our leagues as English players are just as guilty of over reacting and diving. Sorry have to disagree here you don't see Giggs, Scholes,Carragher,Lampard,Zamora,Bellamy etc rolling around the floor trying to get fellow pros sent off unlike Droga,Torres,Adebayour,Van Persie,Anelka and nine times out of ten it is an import waving the imaginary card. Rooney dived as has Owen, Ashley Cole and Gerrard has on many occasion straight off the top of my head.
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Post by gingashrew on Aug 16, 2010 1:25:06 GMT 1
There's not much justification in any of this holier than thou crap about diving. Ben Davies, anyone?
The feigning injury thing: maybe a bit more. Drogba must be king for that IMO. Sad as he such a superb player in most respects.
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Post by Pilch on Aug 16, 2010 7:41:18 GMT 1
i wondered how long it would take for a thread about liverpool to end up with mention of rooney diving
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2010 8:16:58 GMT 1
It was not unknown for Arthur Rowley to dive in the penalty area and I am not talking about aquatic sports at a water inundated Gay Meadow.
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Aug 16, 2010 8:22:12 GMT 1
Poor tackle from Cole.
One foot up, in absolutely no control, and very very late.
I said to my friend in the pub I would think it was about 60% red card.
Agreed that Gerrard does get away with some poor tackles.
As for Reina, absolutely hilarious stuff. Looking forward to the wind ups on youtube already.
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Aug 16, 2010 8:52:45 GMT 1
Didn’t see the game but did see the post match interviews with Woy this morning. Again, nice to have him onboard within the ‘top four’. Breath of fresh air, the chap…all the very best to him…
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Post by heavenlyshrew on Aug 16, 2010 9:16:30 GMT 1
cracking goal by reine, if at first you dont succeed, try try again brucie would be so proud of that Someone on tv this last week said Reine was the world best keeper
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Post by d00bie on Aug 16, 2010 9:34:29 GMT 1
Wilshires tackle was a lunge that never got the ball, yellow card fine.
Joe Cole's tackle was the same, a lunge never got the ball, both tackles made by each player were one footed, red card WTF.
Same game Ngog deliberately handles the ball no yellow card.
Later Koscielny is deemed to have handled the ball, 2nd yellow card and he's off.
Referee imo was inconsistent
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Post by Stewie Shrew on Aug 16, 2010 10:21:41 GMT 1
cracking goal by reine, if at first you dont succeed, try try again brucie would be so proud of that Someone on tv this last week said Reine was the world best keeper He still is a class keeper, one mistake in x amount of games when at times he keopt Liverpool in a game doesnt make him a bad keeper, mistakes like this happen. As for Cole, without doubt red card, no question, silly silly tackle Pilch, when you have someone like Jamo(no disrespect) doin a usual have a crack at a Liverpool player then its bound to come back with a United knock
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Post by monkee on Aug 16, 2010 10:36:27 GMT 1
Think thats a bit unfair on alot of honest foreign hardworking players in our leagues as English players are just as guilty of over reacting and diving. Sorry have to disagree here you don't see Giggs, Scholes,Carragher,Lampard,Zamora,Bellamy etc rolling around the floor trying to get fellow pros sent off unlike Droga,Torres,Adebayour,Van Persie,Anelka and nine times out of ten it is an import waving the imaginary card. if you think that english players dont dive, then you dont watch as much football as you claim. as an "elderstatesman" surely you remember players like Francis Lee throwing themselves around to get decisions. what is worse, a career threatening foul or diving? they are both cheating but one is far more dangerous.
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Post by stfcfan87 on Aug 16, 2010 11:37:19 GMT 1
Didn't think Cole needed to make the tackle and he seemed to launch in with both feet - replays have shown differently admittedly but the ref doesn't have them - and the opponent has been left crumpled on the floor off the pitch. When he was carried off it did look like they were putting his leg in a splint.
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Post by Fingers on Aug 16, 2010 12:34:00 GMT 1
Cole didnt need to make that challenge especially with only a few minutes left to run, i think perhaps adrenaline of his debut may have over ran a little. Wasn't a good challenge and certainly have no complaints about it being a red. The Ngog handball v Kiesclney handball - interesting point given by dermot gallagher - Ngog handball stopped liverpools attack, so disadvantaged his own team. Kiescleny handball meant that it stopped Torres going through on goal and continuing the attack so it was a yellow. I always thought a deliberate handball was a red so this view from a former ref is interesting. Arsenal should have won the game, its a point gained on last season for Liverpool and could have been 3 if Reina didnt decide to get his bearings a little astray!
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