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Post by pawlo on Mar 30, 2004 22:54:32 GMT 1
3503 Whats the matter with these people. Are we waisting our good sentiment?
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Post by DRASFounder on Mar 30, 2004 22:55:27 GMT 1
I personally think we are
They should save themselves b4 we help and they clearly aren't
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Post by evo16 on Mar 30, 2004 22:56:09 GMT 1
ffs are they stupid or what. this is really getting on my tits now!
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Post by goindownthewylecop on Mar 30, 2004 22:57:07 GMT 1
2000 of them chester fans, so pitiful really.
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Post by Northwest Shrew on Mar 30, 2004 22:57:45 GMT 1
2000 from chester + a fair old amount of town fans oh dear
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2004 22:58:15 GMT 1
If there were 2,000 Chester fans there then that Telford turn out is terrible.
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Post by Ty on Mar 30, 2004 23:02:47 GMT 1
2,000 Chester fans as well apparerntly, so only 1500 telford fans, you have to feel sorry for the hardcore, because the people of telford are in the main letting themselves down.
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Post by grinfish on Mar 30, 2004 23:05:18 GMT 1
Face the truth guys - Telford DOESN'T CARE ABOUT FOOTBALL.
Sorry for the minority who do keep the faith there, but can anyone disagree now?
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 30, 2004 23:24:40 GMT 1
Telford doesnt care about TUFC there is no doubt, if its true that 2000 of 3503 were from Chester and not forgetting the Town and Hereford fans there...they are not very popular.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2004 23:27:30 GMT 1
It's a shame for TUFC, but the Telford public have clearly shown that they don't give a toss. These attendances will not help to attract investment.
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Post by James AFC Telford on Mar 30, 2004 23:41:28 GMT 1
The attendance figure was absulute s**te. Chester brought around 2000, Not that much room in the hutch, 400 telford on the east terrace, and the main stand was more than half full. Bloody tax dodgers!!!
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 30, 2004 23:41:36 GMT 1
There were never 2000 there from Chester
although to be honest there weren't too many there from Telford really, the main stand was maybe two thirds full but no more
I saw at least 30 Towns fans, and also people from hereford / bangor city and other conference clubs
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Post by meoleshrew2 on Mar 30, 2004 23:48:05 GMT 1
Telford just have too much competition from Wolves, Brum, WBA, Villa the list goes on really, Telford was built as a overspill town for the black country, as SNFC has said elsewhere on the board tonight even as Wellington the crowds were about the same, perhaps like ourselves where thought has gone into the future with our new ground, any investors for Telford will somehow have to come up with something similar.
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Post by wiganshrew2 on Mar 30, 2004 23:57:12 GMT 1
Just a thought- but maybe there's a lot of people who are really hard-up and would go if they could afford it?
Maybe even transport is a problem for some of them? People on some of these estates around Telford- perhaps the public transport is bad? It must be easier to get from say, Harlescott to Gay Meadow than it is to get from Brookside, Telford, to the Bucks Head. Perhaps it would help if TUFC did some "market reaseach"- and found out what the problem was. They need to get out there- have a bit of missionary zeal!
Maybe the reason so many people now go for "armchair football"- is that it's cheaper?
It's just a thought.
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Post by warbiesbread on Mar 31, 2004 0:09:06 GMT 1
Having just returned from telford would agree with most of the sentiments, chester brought around 1500 i would say, but as for home support transport difficulties or not it was a poor show.
On another point if chester are still losing 65,000 a month how are they keeping a float? by my basic maths over a season that is 650,000 plus will they survive?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2004 1:26:21 GMT 1
Having just returned from telford would agree with most of the sentiments, chester brought around 1500 i would say, but as for home support transport difficulties or not it was a poor show. On another point if chester are still losing 65,000 a month how are they keeping a float? by my basic maths over a season that is 650,000 plus will they survive? Another chairman bank rolling them.
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Post by Rep on Mar 31, 2004 1:52:21 GMT 1
As a regular (26 years or so) Town supporter who has lived in Telford all my life I found tonites attendance pitiful - My feelings are much the same as those expressed elsewhere on this post/board - genuine sadness for the loyal if small minority of TUFC fans... and dismay at the couldn't care less attitude from the rest of a population that exceeds 120,000 ... no wonder this town so long to get a hosipital the apathy here reaps what it sows...
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Post by 'Guest' on Mar 31, 2004 3:12:10 GMT 1
Just a thought- but maybe there's a lot of people who are really hard-up and would go if they could afford it? Maybe even transport is a problem for some of them? People on some of these estates around Telford- perhaps the public transport is bad? It must be easier to get from say, Harlescott to Gay Meadow than it is to get from Brookside, Telford, to the Bucks Head. Perhaps it would help if TUFC did some "market reaseach"- and found out what the problem was. They need to get out there- have a bit of missionary zeal! Maybe the reason so many people now go for "armchair football"- is that it's cheaper? It's just a thought.
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Post by 'Guest' on Mar 31, 2004 3:13:48 GMT 1
Just a thought- but maybe there's a lot of people who are really hard-up and would go if they could afford it? Maybe even transport is a problem for some of them? People on some of these estates around Telford- perhaps the public transport is bad? It must be easier to get from say, Harlescott to Gay Meadow than it is to get from Brookside, Telford, to the Bucks Head. Perhaps it would help if TUFC did some "market reaseach"- and found out what the problem was. They need to get out there- have a bit of missionary zeal! Maybe the reason so many people now go for "armchair football"- is that it's cheaper? It's just a thought. Managed to get there when it was millwall!!!!!]
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Post by Mediolanum Shrew on Mar 31, 2004 12:06:37 GMT 1
Im think it shows quite clearly that Telford cant support a full time league team. To be fair there were loads of Town fans in colours ( ie myeslf, TBH, Sib et al).
I do feel for the genuine Telford fans, but maybe reality needs to kick in know.
Chester - same thing is going to happen to them one day me thinks, again!
Us. Today is the dealine for option on New Meadow. We might have our won problems by the end of the week if they dont buy that land today! (news on the garpevine is that things are moving on this by no confirmation).
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Post by Staly on Mar 31, 2004 12:12:56 GMT 1
So Telford have about 1500 regular fans. Up from about 900 last season then. And is that not an average sort of figure for the Conference.
Telford are a Conference club who are slowly and steadily building support. Their recent history has been skewed somewhat by the Shaw factor.
Does any of this mean that those 1500 don't deserve to have a club? How many regular fans do Stalybridge Celtic have? Do they deserve to go out of business?
Yes Telford need to find their level and try to build on it. No, they shouldn't go into extinction.
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Post by MRJPSHREW on Mar 31, 2004 12:25:10 GMT 1
The attendance figure was absulute sh!te. Chester brought around 2000, Not that much room in the hutch, 400 telford on the east terrace, and the main stand was more than half full. Bloody tax dodgers!!! But how would a potential tax dodge look to any potential buyer? If I was looking to invest and I was sat at home, seeing the attendance as that I wouldnt bother, but why would they lie at a time like this?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2004 13:29:22 GMT 1
To be fair the people of Telford haven't been given much to cheer.
Give them a winning side that challenges for promotion and then crowds may be enough to sustain a full time team.
If not, they need to build a side that gates of 1,000 can support.
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Post by pawlo on Mar 31, 2004 13:44:24 GMT 1
Agree with welshshrew.
To be fair Staly you are right as well, but the point surely is that Telford havent found that level and are certainly not working to it. Its all well and good having a nice ish ground and hotel facilities, full time squad ect, but what is the point if its not going to be viable financialy.
Shaw seems to have gone about things in a cock eyed way. Get the team and support going, then start getting developed. I would be pretty p***ed with him if he was our chairman ( ex ).
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Post by ThrobsBlackHat on Mar 31, 2004 13:58:06 GMT 1
true about Shaw, he built the club upside down
what you need is,
1) Fans 2) Youth development system
You need to be able to pay wages and develop players, and they cannot do either
the only legacy of Shaw is a huge debt and a nice stadium they no longer own
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Post by stuttgartershrew on Mar 31, 2004 14:04:52 GMT 1
Well said Staley and well said MeoleShrew...
Please people, I urge you to read there posts again!!! I simply can not believe what some of you are posting...the people of Telford don't want a club? That's utter s**te. They have a very loyal hardcore set of supporters who do want football in Telford, simple as...how long has the club been going?
I must have missed sommat, is there now some criteria with regards to attendances as to whether a town deserves a football club?
Telford United have been in the Conference for ages, this is their level...history proves that. Ok they might be going a tad too far by going full time but is that the fault of the clubs loyal supporters? Should there club go under purely because it was unable to sustain the chairman's ambitions? In my opinion, no...
Think about it eh?
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